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Liberals Are Leading America Into Fascism
Start Thinking Right ^ | April 3, 2009 | Michael Eden

Posted on 04/03/2009 8:47:49 AM PDT by Michael Eden

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To: Earthdweller

“Neither do Islamistsic fundamentalists. You are correct, though.”
That’s ridiculous. Islamic extremists kill homosexuals...we just rebuke them and watch them parade around in SFS is silly get-ups.
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Islamists have “useful idiots” just as Hitler and Stalin had them.

Liberals are the useful idiots of Islamic extremism. Do the Islamists despise American liberals even more than they do American conservatives? Of course they do! You can’t imagine how much they hate Hollywood culture, and the loose morality, and feminism, etc. etc.

Yet they don’t mind the fact that liberals are hard at work undermining Western culture’s attempts to deal with terrorism and Islamic extremism. They don’t mind the fact that liberals are deciding that Western culture should “tolerate” shariah law.

It is insane that liberals and homosexuals would essentially support - by weakness and appeasement and “tolerance” - the Islamist agenda. But that is precisely what they are doing.


21 posted on 04/03/2009 9:11:31 AM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: seatrout

Oh...so sorry, I thought you struck out Islam there entirely...my bad. Good you aren’t Rosie O’Donald. :)~


22 posted on 04/03/2009 9:11:52 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Michael Eden

True.


23 posted on 04/03/2009 9:13:34 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: cripplecreek
Hitler had no problem using homosexuals to achieve his goals.

My understanding of the Nazi homosexual dealings is that the more masculine homosexuals were left alone, but men who were more effeminate were removed from society.

24 posted on 04/03/2009 9:14:17 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Earthdweller
No offense taken. As for being Rosie, well, I actually try to watch my weight. I do like girls though, does that make me a lesbian even though I'm a man? Seriously, though, I know a lot of people use the term "Islamist", but it's such a PC term that implies "oh those Muslims are a peaceful bunch if not for those darn 'Islamists' ".
25 posted on 04/03/2009 9:15:58 AM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Michael Eden

Nice article, very informative.


26 posted on 04/03/2009 9:18:41 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Michael Eden

“Who will American fascism be intolerant of?”

Those that have been said to “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”


27 posted on 04/03/2009 9:22:20 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: ken21

>>thanks to president zero

american businesses will be regulated from

brussels.<<

Won’t happen - all owners will be out of business. Private islands keep looking better and better, every day.


28 posted on 04/03/2009 9:22:21 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Ozymandi
The fact that 31 million died on the Eastern Front does not mean that the ideaologies were not kissing cousins.

Fascism, Communism, and Socialism all put the state above the individual. All did away with dissenters and undesirables. Read Goldberg's book, it will explain why they are linked. It also very nicely summarizes why the war happened between these more alike than different ideologies.

29 posted on 04/03/2009 9:23:05 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Hitler had no problem using homosexuals to achieve his goals.

My understanding of the Nazi homosexual dealings is that the more masculine homosexuals were left alone, but men who were more effeminate were removed from society.
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There was a great deal of “This is okay until we decide it isn’t okay anymore” with Hitler and the NAZIs.

For instance, they embraced avant garde art and the whole artsy-fartsy thing. Until they secured power. And then they went after anything that violated Hitler’s “aesthetics.”

And the NAZIs primary vehicle to power was angry labor unions. How do you think Hitler treated malcontent workers once HE became “the man”?

There were a lot of VERY suprised artists, homosexuals, and others who suddenly found themselves on the outs.

The History Channel program that documented the homosexuality of the SA pointed out that there was evidence linking Hitler himself to homosexuality. And that one of the reasons he purged the SA was to destroy the evidence/witnesses.

Ultimately, a lot of what was “in” and what was “out” depended on der Fuhrer’s mood.


30 posted on 04/03/2009 9:23:06 AM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Ozymandi

If you are referring to the Russians opposing the NAZI’s I see your point. I would point out though that a Cowboys fan and a Steelers fan both like football, just a different way of getting there.


31 posted on 04/03/2009 9:25:14 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Ev Reeman
I said it before and I’ll keep saying it: “One small step for man, one giant goosestep for America!”

No comment: I just thought that was so damn funny I'd insert it again!

32 posted on 04/03/2009 9:26:23 AM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: seatrout
real fascists—and real communists for that matter—wouldn’t tolerate this same-sex marriage nonsense like what just happened in Iowa. Maybe we are sinking into something worse.

There's a duality at work here. on one hand is the fascism that demands compliance of the sheeple to achieve the leftist, green Utopia.

But otoh, there is a zone of personal freedom that is allowed by the liberal fascists to pursue individual degradation (which behavior is contrary to Conservative tenets and mores), which we traditionally have come to know as "Sex, drugs and Rock and Roll".

It is now better or more accurately described as "gay sex, crack and rap".
33 posted on 04/03/2009 9:27:13 AM PDT by Canedawg (Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny- M. Levin)
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To: Michael Eden
Ultimately, a lot of what was “in” and what was “out” depended on der Fuhrer’s mood.

Yes. For that reason alone, I scoffed at my Political Science professor when he said his ideal form of government was a Benevolent Philosopher King with a willing army to back him.

Great, if your philosopher King is God, not so good when he is a human being. I told him I prefered the rule of law and the rights of the individual over the rule of any man.

While he may have been a flaming lefty, he certainly didn't take arguing with his philosophy personal. I got an A in his class.

34 posted on 04/03/2009 9:29:25 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Michael Eden

If Political Science were taught as follows....

Nationalist Socialists are Nazis.

Internationalist Socialists are Communists.

American Socialists are Democrats....

It would easily be understood by all and no further clarifications would be necessary.


35 posted on 04/03/2009 9:29:47 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Michael Eden
There was a great deal of “This is okay until we decide it isn’t okay anymore” with Hitler and the NAZIs.

They used Christianity as well but when it came down to it Hitler and the SS were far more interested in astrology and occult type stuff. Interestingly enough, Christianity proved to be made of stronger stuff than the NAZIs or communists.
36 posted on 04/03/2009 9:30:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Ozymandi

Not to belie the Authors underlying point too badly, but this quote:

“First of all, socialism, communism and fascism are kissing cousins, intimately related to one another. “

Is painful to read as a history scholar and not even remotely accurate as 31 Million Dead on the WWII European Eastern Front will attest.

Let’s keep our argument to the facts please, they’re on our side. Now is not the time for our side to be producing sound-bytes which can be used to incorrectly paint the entire Conservative Movement as “Ignorant of History.” This quote certainly could qualify.
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You couldn’t be more wrong.

Both fascism and communism were forms of socialism. That is simply a fact - and I documented that merely by defining the acronyms “USSR” and “NAZI.”

Fascism was a national-based form of socialism, and communsim was a class-based form of socialism. Much of the outworkings of both systems were identical to one another.

Jonah Goldberg’s book - as just one among many - show just how many similarities there were between the two forms of socialism, and how many liberals were sympathetic to both as a result.

The fact that Hitler turned on Stalin had FAR more to do with his view of Aryan domination (and the fact that he was insane) than it had to do with ideology.

And you should also ask yourself - given that you seem to think that the fact that they fought means they were entirely unrelated systems - why it is that when someone is murdered, the first people the police look at are the victim’s very own family members?

I stand by what I said.


37 posted on 04/03/2009 9:33:00 AM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: cripplecreek
They used Christianity as well

In the beginning they did. However, Christianity was perverted by the Nazis (as it is today my many). The priests were basically told to toe the Nazi line or they'd be dealt with. Slowly the church was forced to turn from God to State (and even Hitler himself) as the object of worship.

38 posted on 04/03/2009 9:35:50 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: NTHockey

it is happening.

it is the agreement made by obama in london.

re: fox news yesterday evening.


39 posted on 04/03/2009 9:38:10 AM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: Michael Eden

NAZI is not an acronym.


40 posted on 04/03/2009 9:38:12 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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