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So Far So Ugly in the Republican Political Civil War
The Provocateur ^ | 04/30/2009 | Mike Volpe

Posted on 04/30/2009 10:15:22 AM PDT by fiscon1

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To: Kansas58

“the GOP is STILL the best hope we have”

The centrist, middle-of-the-road, moderate GOP?
Every article I’ve read on Specter’s defection describes him as a “moderate” Republican. Then they make a point of mentioning other “moderates”—like McCain, Snowe & Co. who want to: “bring the GOP to the center”.
You’ve drunk the MSM Kool-aid, Jayhawk/or Wildcat.
To the Associated Press, NYT & Co., “moderate” means Arlen Specter.
The “GOP moderates” can go pound sand in a rat-hole.


41 posted on 04/30/2009 11:09:56 AM PDT by tumblindice ("moderate Republican"=Arlen Specter (D))
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To: Kansas58
My husband has been saying and I don't disagree about needing a 3rd party.

After reading your comments about purging the party of RINO’s.....I absolutely agree.....we need to get back to our conservative roots and the RINO’s can go Dem or fund their own loser party.....

42 posted on 04/30/2009 11:12:55 AM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: tumblindice

PS When was the last time you saw a Democrat, like Pelosi, Kennedy, Obama or Kennedy, described as:
“liberal Democrat” ___________? Never, because it is assumed that they are “moderates”.


43 posted on 04/30/2009 11:13:16 AM PDT by tumblindice (And Atlas Shrugged)
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To: fiscon1
I'm old enough to remember when Hatch WASN'T a RINO.(and that's pretty old !)

Nam Vet

44 posted on 04/30/2009 11:14:57 AM PDT by Nam Vet ("Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it." .... Henry David Thoreau)
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To: fiscon1

What civil war?

The present Republican party stands for nothing and is fighting for nothing. They’re not fighting their base so much as ignoring their base.

A civil war would be refreshing. Conservatives would have someone to root for.


45 posted on 04/30/2009 11:16:24 AM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Tzimisce

then this political civil war is all about power. That said, Demint has weighed in on this so you will see conservatives attempting to get their position down.


46 posted on 04/30/2009 11:22:08 AM PDT by fiscon1
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To: Kansas58
Voters bask in 1992 were left between a lying, country club repub who said he wouldn't raise taxes and a crackpot protest candidate. However, if Bush had kept to his promise and manged from more limited government perspective then Perot wouldn't have seen the light of day.

This last election was the second of a two election referendum on the republican party. Now the party continues to implode instead of getting its act together on putting out a message that people want to follow. Obama lied out his bony ass to get elected. There is a chance that a good candidate with a limited government message could win and the same holds true for the mid-term. If the party is going to have dipshits like Bachman spouting off and becoming the face of the party then the country is done. Her rightwing version of moonbatism gets worshiped around here but trying to wonder why swine flu comes back under a democrat in 2009 when it was last seen under Carter was moronic.

47 posted on 04/30/2009 11:27:11 AM PDT by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Bohhhhhhhhh. Smooth)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Excellent. Thoughtful. Cogent. Understandable.

No undefined “I’m a FULL BORE CONSERVATIVE.”

So refreshing.


48 posted on 04/30/2009 11:29:55 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: tumblindice

which is what i was trying to point out. ceding the title “moderate or middle” is a mistake. we’re the middle.


49 posted on 04/30/2009 11:29:59 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: fiscon1

I got an email this morning that claimed Spector began his political career as a Democrat and switched to the Republican Party many years ago. Since he switched back he should now be known as Spector the Defector. I have no idea if that is true or when he might have changed parties the first time. Interesting.


50 posted on 04/30/2009 11:34:21 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I don’t hear moderate Democrats complaining about the hard left turn their party has taken. I don’t understand it either- I know moderate and even conservative Democrats and many have stopped voting. It seems there are enough far lefties to replace them though.


51 posted on 04/30/2009 11:38:09 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: tumblindice
Why let the MSM define Specter?
We all KNOW that Specter is a liberal.
We all KNOW that the Republican Party, even in PA, is FAR more conservative than Specter.

Also, EVERY Party will include HUMANS!

Those HUMANS will NOT agree on everything.

Any 3rd Party will have the SAME problems as the GOP. -— Plus ONE BIGGER PROBLEM: YOU WILL NEVER WIN WITH A 3rd PARTY!

So, you solve NOTHING and you bring on even more defeat!

52 posted on 04/30/2009 11:45:25 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: misterrob
So what?
There are lots and lots of moon bat Democrats in Congress that say all kinds of nutty stuff, all the time.
The Democrat Party, and other Democrat candidates, don't feel the need to purge their fringe groups.

Why should we feel such an urge?

Let it go. It is only a problem in your mind, and nowhere else.

Let Bachman be Bachman. Worry about how she VOTES, not what she says!

53 posted on 04/30/2009 11:47:57 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Tammy8

Specter was born in Russell Kansas, just like Bob Dole.

Not that I am proud of that fact, where Specter is concerned.


54 posted on 04/30/2009 11:49:24 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

So did Spector start off as a Democrat?


55 posted on 04/30/2009 12:07:40 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Kansas58
I found this on Wikipedia- but no mention if he campaigned or held office as a Democrat:

A Democrat in his youth, Specter joined the Republicans in 1966; however, on April 28, 2009, he announced his intention to return to the Democratic Party.

56 posted on 04/30/2009 12:11:11 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: EternalVigilance
At some point conservatives have to stop squandering their precious chips in a rigged game.

Why? What good is it if we keep giving up ground to the leftist push? Just so we can say that the Republican Party is still relevant? No way.
57 posted on 04/30/2009 12:16:35 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: misterrob
I like Bachman. She's a part of where the GOP needs to get back to if they want to start winning elections again. Palin, Jindla, McClintock, and Tancredo are other examples.

If that makes me a "moonbat", then you can bite my hairy arse.

58 posted on 04/30/2009 12:21:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: PurpleMan
I didn’t make the statement.

That's fine. I was just curious to hear your definition.
59 posted on 04/30/2009 12:26:45 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: fiscon1

I just watched the girly boy Shemp on Fox interviewing Mike Pence.

Shemp asked Pence if the new initiative in the GOP was to reign in the far right.

God help me. Did the democrats reign in the far left?

I think not. We have a far leftist sitting as POTUS.

If anything, that should tell us something.

Can you dig it?


60 posted on 04/30/2009 12:31:38 PM PDT by dforest
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