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Obama Backlash Beginning: Montana Defies Administration With In-Your-Face Gun Law
Start Thinking Right ^ | May 7, 2009 | Michael Eden

Posted on 05/07/2009 2:08:30 PM PDT by Michael Eden

The state of Montana has drawn a line in the sand by passing a new gun law that virtually thumbs its nose at the federal government's encroachment on state and individual rights. If the tea parties were the first shot across the bow of liberal fascism, this is surely the second - and it's being done with heavy artillery.

Montana Governor Brian D. Schweitzer, for what it's worth, is a Democrat.

Montana fires a warning shot over states’ rights State is trying to trigger a battle over gun control — and make a point

updated 4:54 p.m. ET April 29, 2009

HELENA, Mont. - Montana is trying to trigger a battle over gun control — and perhaps make a larger point about what many folks in this ruggedly independent state regard as a meddlesome federal government.

In a bill passed by the Legislature earlier this month, the state is asserting that guns manufactured in Montana and sold in Montana to people who intend to keep their weapons in Montana are exempt from federal gun registration, background check and dealer-licensing rules because no state lines are crossed.

That notion is all but certain to be tested in court.

The immediate effect of the law could be limited, since Montana is home to just a few specialty gun makers, known for high-end hunting rifles and replicas of Old West weapons, and because their out-of-state sales would automatically trigger federal control.

Legal showdown Still, much bigger prey lies in Montana's sights: a legal showdown over how far the federal government's regulatory authority extends.

"It's a gun bill, but it's another way of demonstrating the sovereignty of the state of Montana," said Democratic Gov. Brian Schweitzer, who signed the bill.

Carrie DiPirro, a spokeswoman for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, had no comment on the legislation. But the federal government has generally argued that it has authority under the interstate commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution to regulate guns because they can so easily be transported across state lines.

Guns and states' rights both play well in Montana, the birthplace of the right-wing Freemen militia and a participant in the Sagebrush Rebellion of the 1970s and '80s, during which Western states clashed with Washington over grazing and mineral extraction on federal land.

Montana's leading gun rights organization, more hardcore than the National Rifle Association, boasts it has moved 50 bills through the Legislature over the past 25 years. And lawmakers in the Big Sky State have rebelled against federal control of everything from wetland protection to the national Real ID system.

'Made in Montana' Under the new law, guns intended only for Montana would be stamped "Made in Montana." The drafters of the law hope to set off a legal battle with a simple Montana-made youth-model single-shot, bolt-action .22 rifle. They plan to find a "squeaky clean" Montanan who wants to send a note to the ATF threatening to build and sell about 20 such rifles without federal dealership licensing.

If the ATF tells them it's illegal, they will sue and take the case all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, if they can.

Similar measures have also been introduced in Texas and Alaska.

"I think states have got to stand up or else most of their rights are going to be buffaloed by the administration and by Congress," said Texas state Rep. Leo Berman.

Critics say exempting guns from federal laws anywhere would undermine efforts to stem gun violence everywhere.

Hot Air has the text of the law, titled:
AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA; AND PROVIDING AN APPLICABILITY DATE. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA:
This is defiance as a thing of art:

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It is a determination to keep fighting for one's freedom no matter how hopeless things might look:

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And why is this level of defiance necessary? An image worth a thousand curses suffices by way of explanation:

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Gun and ammunition sales have soared out of naked fear of Obama.

And for good reason: Obama is pushing a treaty to ban reloading. Liberals are trying to regulate the components of ammunition as explosives and thus restrict ammunition. Liberals in California are nakedly attempting to circumvent the 2nd Amendment by regulating ammunition, hence making guns useless.

And the liberal campaign to deprive Americans of their 2nd Amendment guarantees (even as they discover "penumbras and emanations" in the Constitution that let them kill babies) is only a distant side issue in the massive government takeover of American society. Obama's massive spending - more than every president from George Washington to George W. Bush COMBINED - will leave this country with an insurmountable national debt that would exceed 82 percent of the overall economy by 2019 and threaten this country's very survival. We are now on the hook for $12.8 TRILLION dollars in government spending and commitments in the brave new world of the Obama economy.

We've got a president who is firing CEOs, stacking boards of directors, changing the rules for the auto manufacturers' bankruptcy filings in order to favor the unions that supported him over the secured creditors. And if they don't like it, they are met with frightening threats from the administration and death threats from union members. If that isn't bad enough, we've also got card check on the horizon, which would allow union thugs to intimidate workers into unionizing with the union allowed to know exactly how each worker voted.

We've got a president who won't let banks repay bailout loans (which in many cases were literally forced on them in the first place) so he can continue to impose onerous terms and conditions on them and control what they do and how they do it.

We've got a president who is planning to nationalize health care - and the one-sixth of our economy that it represents - even as he moves to impose costly and burdensome cap-and-trade regulations that would (in Obama's own words) necessarily cause energy prices to soar.

And we've got a president who is attempting to nationalize student loans such that private lenders are phased out altogether. If Obama gets his way, the government will loan directly to families and students, making them directly indebted to the federal government. The government will necessarily get to decide which students, which schools, and which academic programs get loans. An option for students is to repay their loans by means of "national service," which already precludes any type of religious service whatsoever. The potential of liberal big government harnessing student labor to staff liberal organizations such as ACORN is becoming all-too real.

We have a new administration that moved to criminalize political differences by targeting Bush officials as war criminals, even as returning veterans and pro-life Americans are labeled as "rightwing extremists" in a DHS report sent out to the nation's law enforcement agencies and police departments.

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I've been saying something over and over in different ways. What the liberals are doing now will ultimately result in a "rightwing" backlash. What is true in physics is true in politics: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Liberals are pushing and pushing and pushing through one new massive spending program and one new policy after another that will change and undermine this country forever afterward.

Under Obama, terrorism is now called an "overseas contingency operation" and terror attacks are now nothing more than "man-caused disasters." In attacking the CIA as a means to attack Bush, Obama has created a depressed, sullen, and angry morale which promises to transfer into "cover your ass" caution and bureaucratic gamesmanship. He has undermined our security to a shocking degree. If we are attacked, this country will swing so far to the right so fast it will be absolutely unreal.

But even if we are not attacked, our country will likely implode under its own weight: trillions of dollars of reckless spending will have that effect as our dollar devalues and our interest payments on the debt begin to soar when inflation begins to take its toll. Ultimately our taxes will skyrocket due to all of this spending. CBS News has an article from March entitled, "If China Stops Lending Us Money, Look Out." Well, guess what? They're doing exactly that. They're canceling our credit card.

In a poll of chief executive officers taken prior to the election, 74 percent of the executives said they feared "that an Obama presidency would be disastrous for the country." And some of the CEOs predicted that "some of his programs would bankrupt the country within three years, if implemented." And with the Congress in nearly total Democratic control, they ARE being implemented.

When Obama and the Democrats bankrupt the country and undermine our entire social structure with massive spending programs and massive bureaucracies that cannot be undone, which direction will the country turn? And how complete will that turnaround be?

Liberals are ignoring one ominous warning of popular outrage after another, claiming that conservatism and the Republican Party are dead. And they will likely ignore what is going on in Montana - which is led by a Democrat governor - as well. They are doing so to both their party's and their country's peril.

Montana, you've done a great thing for liberty, which is freedom from the growing tyranny of the smiley-face-fascist nanny state.

The backlash against big government liberal tyranny is beginning. And it will become larger and hotter as Obama's policies take their toll. Let us hope that the spark turns into a fire before - rather than after - Obama has done too much damage to recover from.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: backlash; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; bitter; donttreadonme; federalgovernment; fubo; gunlaw; liberty; montana; mt2009; shallnotbeinfringe; statesrights
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1 posted on 05/07/2009 2:08:30 PM PDT by Michael Eden
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“In your face gun law”.

Sounds dangerous. Do they restrict pointing a gun in someone’s face or something?


2 posted on 05/07/2009 2:09:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: a fool in paradise

This is a reaction against Obama. It is part of the panic-buying of guns and ammunition going on across the country.

Montana is saying that the federal government has no right to regulate what goes on INSIDE their state.

A couple of paragraphs from the news article:
“In a bill passed by the Legislature earlier this month, the state is asserting that guns manufactured in Montana and sold in Montana to people who intend to keep their weapons in Montana are exempt from federal gun registration, background check and dealer-licensing rules because no state lines are crossed.

That notion is all but certain to be tested in court.”

It is a shot across the Obama bow. And I pray that states and citizens keep firing and keep their powder dry. A real battle is coming.


3 posted on 05/07/2009 2:14:16 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden

Should make the barrel of the rifle shorter than 16 inches, and add a sound suppression device on it, or thread the barrel.


4 posted on 05/07/2009 2:15:01 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Michael Eden

My prediction: This will wind up in the Supreme Court, but only after Obama and Holder think they’ve got enough appointments to secure a 5-4 liberal majority, as well as infer a generous Federal power over the Commerce Clause.


5 posted on 05/07/2009 2:16:13 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Frohickey

The silencer aspect to this is pretty interesting. I hunted in two states (Oregon and Washington) in which I never thought about silencers. I also bow hunted.

Always thought of the silencer as a military device, as it reduces range. I can see the idea of hunting near homes and property making silencers useful.

My rifle is a Browning BAR in .300 Winchester Magnum. I liked to take a high point and wait. I’ve also got a 30/30 Winchester Model 94 for varmint hunting.


6 posted on 05/07/2009 2:25:04 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden

A new part of the argument is a conservative response to liberal abuse.

Liberals have had their “sanctuary city” policy that flouted federal immigration laws.

Now Montana, Utah, and Texas are using that same mindset to have “sanctuary states” for gun rights. AND GOD BLESS ‘EM!!!


7 posted on 05/07/2009 2:26:45 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Well, as best I can tell the odds of Obama really causing the court to swing is relatively small. Replacing Souter and Ginsberg won't do it. They are already wacko liberals so it won't make a difference appointing another couple of wacko liberals in terms of swinging the court. Now if something were to happen to Roberts, Scalia, or Thomas then we are in a world of hurt should Obama get to replace any of these guys. The biggest fear is that he appoints some 32 year old ACORN activist which wouldn't surprise me. We are then stuck with these people for decades.
8 posted on 05/07/2009 2:26:48 PM PDT by trtdenver
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To: Pearls Before Swine

By passing this law, the Montana legislature is already telling the feds that they give no jurisdiction in this matter to the Supreme Court.

Every one of them has to be aware of Wickard v Filburn, which already gives commerce clause jurisdiction over all trade, even when you manufacture stuff for yourself.


9 posted on 05/07/2009 2:27:54 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: trtdenver

Have to add Kennedy to your list. He is the new “swing vote.” If he were replaced with a true liberal, you’d have every 5-4 decision favoring liberals every single time.

I also think that Obama can come up with - believe it or not - FAR WORSE judges than any other president we’ve ever before seen.


10 posted on 05/07/2009 2:37:45 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden

Ir is NOT panic buying! Panic implies that it is unreasonable.


11 posted on 05/07/2009 2:39:12 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: MrB

Of course, Courts can reverse earlier decisions.

But I see Montana, Utah, and Texas holding their ground. I see them effectively saying, “If a federal agent attempts to enforce laws banned by the states, we will arrest them.”

And this going on now is nothing short of an outright reaction against Barry Hussein.


12 posted on 05/07/2009 2:40:18 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden

yes.


13 posted on 05/07/2009 2:42:44 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Swampsniper,

I would disagree. If I run out of a burning building in a state of panic, it doesn’t mean I should have stayed in the burning building.

There are times when panic is more than reasonable, IMHO.

If conservatives don’t start panicking, I hope they at least have a frenetic sense of hyperactive urgency in moving against this landslide of crap that’s rolling down the hill toward us.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 2:43:19 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden; bamahead

I pray this survives a test in the courts. If this holds up in the SCOTUS, a significant part of federal government’s judicially mandated ‘authority’ over us will be nullified. As a country, we would be taking a big step toward what our founders had in mind when they created our founding documents. Because of this, I can’t imagine the courts siding with Montana.


15 posted on 05/07/2009 2:44:44 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Michael Eden
... “sanctuary states” for gun rights.

Brilliant description! Sure to garner a slack-jawed stammering response.

16 posted on 05/07/2009 2:46:39 PM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: KoRn

I’m not so sure “surviving the court” is the best outcome.

The courts have usurped authority that they never should have had in the first place.

An interesting thing happened when Lincoln issued his Emancipation Proclamation. The SCOTUS had said he couldn’t do it. And Lincoln in effect said, “You are wrong, and I am overruling you.” And he flouted them.

It’s time for our elected leaders to stand up against the tyranny of black robed masters who have seized power and make rule from the bench.

Let the SCOTUS rule against the states, and let the states say to the federal government, “You want our guns? Come and take them from us!”


17 posted on 05/07/2009 2:50:09 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: kitchen
... “sanctuary states” for gun rights.

Brilliant description! Sure to garner a slack-jawed stammering response.

Ah, but you saw the liberal banner: "It's not fascism when we do it!"

18 posted on 05/07/2009 2:51:59 PM PDT by Michael Eden (Better to starve free than be a fat slave. Semper Vigilanis)
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To: Michael Eden

This is going to be interesting, my prediction is ZerO gets rolled and does nothing about this.
A huge statement to the world.


19 posted on 05/07/2009 2:55:25 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Michael Eden

Schweitzer spoke at the inauguration and gave a rousing speech. Was wearing a great bolo tie. Not too bad for a Dem. I think he and Obama are friends so I doubt this is meant the way we think it is. I don’t know all the ins and outs of this but so far I don’t think O has done anything about guns yet. He probably will wait till his 2nd term (if he has one). I wouldn’t get too excited about Schweitzer’s actions at this point. He’s not going to get into O’s face.


20 posted on 05/07/2009 3:03:18 PM PDT by BobMV (Usurper in Chief)
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