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In Hawaii in 1961, there were three different birth certificates
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Posted on 05/12/2009 11:46:25 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: antiRepublicrat
Well, from what I have read she was a commie so it wouldn't really surprise me.

In fact it's getting difficult these days to surprise me with anything

42 posted on 05/12/2009 1:23:14 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: Devils Avocado
Do you really believe that there was a conspiracy in place in 1961 to make it appear as though Obama was born in Hawaii that involved placing a birth announcement in the newspaper?


If not for that, I might have some interest in this, but that issue fact (?) alone puts it to bed for me.

Heck if it turns out there was a conspiracy deep enough to put that together we are screwed anyway.

43 posted on 05/12/2009 1:23:42 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
AND, the 1948 British Citizenship Act automatically granted British Citizenship to ALL children of ANY MALE British Citizen, married or not.

If Bambi was born in Hawaii, doubtful at best, and his father was a “Green Card” holder then Bambi would be a NBC. Because Obama, Sr. was on a student visa, The 1948 British Citizenship Act. is applicable and Bambi is full of sh-t!

44 posted on 05/12/2009 1:26:16 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: rreahsito

1963 BC!
Wow even older than I first thunk it! ;)


45 posted on 05/12/2009 1:26:32 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: freedomlover

Not a conspiracy, just utilitarian.

I’m sure in 1961, Obama’s mother wanted all the privileges of a child born in the US...this alone is motive to lie on the affidavit to gain some iteration of certification for her offspring.

Rather than risk red tape, maybe bias.


46 posted on 05/12/2009 1:30:32 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
I have posted this a few times before. Stanley Ann Dunham was in CUBA from mid-Sept. 1960 to late December 1960. Obama was born on 4 August? “Who the daddy”? Do the math!
47 posted on 05/12/2009 1:36:32 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: WellyP

What was she doing in Cuber and where did you get this info?


48 posted on 05/12/2009 1:40:13 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: freedomlover
Heck if it turns out there was a conspiracy deep enough to put that together we are screwed anyway.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a conspiracy that goes that far back, there are other compelling reasons those announcements might have been placed.

That aside, you have no curiosity as to why he won't just show the proper documentation, not to mention the disappearance of all his other records?

49 posted on 05/12/2009 1:42:04 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: Devils Avocado

“FactCheck.org, funded by the Annenberg Center (as in appointee-of-Nixon-and-friend-of-Reagan Walter Annenberg), has thoroughly debunked every angle of this story”

Not so fast Bunkie!

Debunking FactCheck.org’s debunking:

http://www.theobamafile.com/_BogusPOTUS/20090217.htm#FactCheck010


50 posted on 05/12/2009 1:45:38 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

This statement is published on Barack Obama’s “Fight the Smears” website:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaFamily.htm#BarackTheBrit


51 posted on 05/12/2009 1:52:23 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: freedomlover

Do you really believe that there was a conspiracy in place in 1961 to make it appear as though Obama was born in Hawaii that involved placing a birth announcement in the newspaper?


If not for that, I might have some interest in this, but that issue fact (?) alone puts it to bed for me.
Heck if it turns out there was a conspiracy deep enough to put that together we are screwed anyway.

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IT’S SIMPLE; HIS MOTHER WANTED HIM TO HAVE ALL THE ADVANTAGES OF BEING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

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52 posted on 05/12/2009 1:57:10 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Electric Graffiti

Ann Dunham, mother of Obama, at age 18 visited Cuba , with a group to give support to the Castro government. During her stay in Cuba in 1960, she was involved with voluntary work living in a commune in the central zone of Cuba, where she met a young Cuban Francisco Cundo from the town of Sagua la Grande....When Ann left Cuba in Dec 1960, she was 2 months pregnant. When she went back to Hawaii where her parents lived, she continued her studies at the University of Hawaii in Manoa where she met Barack Obama Sr., with whom she married in Feb. 1961. In his book “The Audacity of Hope”, Obama says that his mother was 4 months pregnant when she married his father. If we continue the chronology of these actions, one can prove that the biological father of the son of Ann was Cuban....Francisco Cundo not Barack Obama Sr. This creates a new situation if the possible new president Obama, since it would make him of Cuban origin with roots in the town of Sagua la Grande.

A DNA tests. Obama to the Kenyan Obamas, should prove this story!


53 posted on 05/12/2009 1:58:08 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: patriot08
IT’S SIMPLE; HIS MOTHER WANTED HIM TO HAVE ALL THE ADVANTAGES OF BEING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

That's why Anna made sure that Obama's half-sister Maya, born in Jakarta, Indonesia, also had (has) a Hawaiin COLB.
54 posted on 05/12/2009 1:59:55 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Father did not have to be a U.S Citizen if he had a “Green Card” or was a perment resident. He was here on a student Visa.


55 posted on 05/12/2009 2:01:38 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Beckwith

Right, FRiend.


56 posted on 05/12/2009 2:04:36 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: LucyT
The Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Confirmed! -- Reliable source.

"I acquired the picture below from Winifred (Wakai) Otaguro, who was in Ms. Sakai’s kindergarten class at Noelani Elementary School in 1967. Otaguro’s mother, Betty Wakai, had written the names of most of the kids in the class on the back of the picture. Her writing identifies the first little boy in the third row as “Barry Obama.” Obama’s sister Maya Soetoro-Ng confirms that the boy is Obama, however, the Department of Education has been unable to find his records."

Kelli Abe Trifonovitch, writing in Hawaii Business.

Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan


57 posted on 05/12/2009 2:10:12 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: WellyP
"During her stay in Cuba in 1960, she was involved with voluntary work living in a commune in the central zone of Cuba"

Wasn't Cuba in revolution aftermath and the US starting an embargo at the time? Seems like a dangerous undertaking for a 16/17 year old. Doesn't pass the smell test.
58 posted on 05/12/2009 2:10:44 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: WellyP
He was still a British citizen though, even though he may have been here legally.

That still does not confer natural born status though.

59 posted on 05/12/2009 2:12:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: Beckwith
Yes, but evidently, race trumps law these days.
60 posted on 05/12/2009 2:13:51 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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