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Dear Americans, Universal Health Care Is Not So Great ... Best Regards, Canada
http://needsofthemany.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/what-happens-when-a-canadian-writes-a-letter-to-america-regarding-universal-health-care/ ^

Posted on 05/19/2009 2:48:56 PM PDT by vaper69

Everyone on both sides of the issue should read this. Frankly, I’m tired of pro universal health care advocates pretending there is a mythological utopia involving government run medical care. The truth is there are more negatives to it than positives.

On the other hand, I’m getting tired of opponents of universal health care proclaiming that there are people dead in the street where ever you have government run health care. The truth is there is decent medical treatment in most western universal health care systems. You have the facts with your side, but you can’t blow them out of proportion to try and prove your point.

Both sides must cease only exploiting the rarest, most horrific examples of blunders in both the private and public systems. No system is perfect, and no system is doesn’t have its fair share of problems. The private system just has less.

(Excerpt) Read more at needsofthemany.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: canada; healthcare; universal

1 posted on 05/19/2009 2:48:56 PM PDT by vaper69
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To: vaper69

My Spysweeper went bananas when I clicked on the link. Anyone else get a ‘site contains spyware’ warning.


2 posted on 05/19/2009 2:56:35 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: vaper69

Obama’s Universal healthcare will increase wait times while decreasing quality of medical care.

WE ARE HEADING STRAIGHT TOWARD SOCIALIZED MEDICINE, REDUCING COSTS BY REWARDING UNDERUTILIZATION, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, DECREASING QUALITY OF MEDICAL CARE.

http://www.thedailychange.com/universal-healthcare-equates-to-rationed-care/


3 posted on 05/19/2009 3:00:33 PM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: TheDailyChange
Socialized medicine simply cannot work in a "just in time" inventory supply mode. They have to plan everything out years in advance so it can be ground up in the parliamentary or Congressional mill.

It also costs more than our system ~ based on a comparison of what is actually delivered.

This has been one of the difficult problems the Socializers have had to face and have ended up doing a poor job of ~ it has to do with COLLECTING THE REVENUES that make it possible to run the system.

Their theory is that shifting bill collection to the tax system they reduce administrative costs substantially.

Actually, in Canada for example, they raised the costs of their national and provincial tax systems above those of all the G-8 countries.

Earlier the cost of collecting taxes in Canada was fairly comparable to the US, although a little more costly since they argue with each other a lot. Once they loaded the medical system revenue needs into the tax mill they ended up with the least efficient, most costly system of any major industrialized nation on Earth!

No doubt the same thing would happen to us.

So what's the deal? How do you save all those administrative costs and more than make up for it with your tax system? Well, the first thing you do is simply ignore what's going to happen when you shift the cash flow. Right down to the wire Canadians argued that there were going to be no additional costs, but there were.

Secondly, you have to recognize that our mixed public/private health care system uses the private sector insurance companies to ENFORCE revenue collection. You pay or you lose your services. In a Socialized system you have to keep providing services even if the beneficiary is no longer paying taxes and has his or her wealth hidden away in a Bahamian bank account.

The Canadians in the know tell us it's not worth it ~ they may be fuzzy on the details, but with what happened to their national and provincial tax collection systems, we don't want any of that.

4 posted on 05/19/2009 3:14:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: vaper69

In 150 days, obozo has nationalized the auto & banking industries. Health care is next to be nationalized. Your communist govt hard at work here.


5 posted on 05/19/2009 3:22:33 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: muawiyah
"just in time" inventory supply mode

What would be really frightening is finding out how many in congress have no idea of what JIT means.

6 posted on 05/19/2009 3:22:44 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: OpeEdMunkey
Congress critters actually think things like medical care are "warehoused" just sitting around waiting for people to walk in.

That's why so many Democrats act like all you have to do is spend the money.

Makes you wonder how so many people could have gone to college and not had anything rub off on them other than STDs.

7 posted on 05/19/2009 3:30:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tsmith130

No I didn’t get any alerts. It wasn’t at Needs of the Many where you got that alert, was it?


8 posted on 05/19/2009 7:14:12 PM PDT by vaper69
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


9 posted on 05/22/2009 4:24:19 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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