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Federal U.S. Debt Has Ballooned to Over $100 Trillion! 18 comments
Seeking Alpha ^ | May 27, 2009 | J. S. Kim

Posted on 05/27/2009 10:26:46 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion

Currently, the US federal debt stands at more than $100 trillion. According to the recent US stock market rally, the fact that the US government is not only bankrupt but has put every four-person family in America on the hook for more than $1.45 million does not merit concern. ...

Despite the recent stock market rally, the fundamentals of the US economy are downright scary. According to the figures released by the US government, as of May 25, 2009, the US federal debt stood at $11.3 trillion, about $37,000 for every man, woman and child in the US (we’ll get to the real federal debt figure soon). To accommodate this growing debt, the US government merely raises its debt ceiling every so often to avoid default in the US Treasury market. Currently this debt ceiling stands at $12.104 trillion.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: debt; deficit; goldmansachs; ppt
I thought we were at about 30 trillion, not 100 trillion. Thoughts?
1 posted on 05/27/2009 10:26:46 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Including illegals, your share goes down from $37,000 to $30,000.


2 posted on 05/27/2009 10:29:26 AM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

future entitlements and stuff


3 posted on 05/27/2009 10:29:36 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com for the love of something)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

According to the national debt clock we are at 11.3 trillion but that makes no sense since we were at 10 trillion in October of 08.


4 posted on 05/27/2009 10:30:48 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

He is probably including future obligations, which I don’t think should be done or it should be stated as such. We can read the future but we know much of this simply cannot happen. We will collapse way before we ever hit $100 trillion.


5 posted on 05/27/2009 10:30:53 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: DonaldC

We can’t read the future, that is.


6 posted on 05/27/2009 10:31:38 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Debts are current obligations. We do not have $100T in current obligations.


7 posted on 05/27/2009 10:32:38 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: icwhatudo

Linky:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Shows another 57 trillion in unfunded social security etc.


8 posted on 05/27/2009 10:33:19 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

“...put every four-person family in America on the hook for more than $1.45 million does not merit concern....”

Wow - good thing Dad works for the Union!


9 posted on 05/27/2009 10:33:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
$85.6 trillion of that is for unfunded liabilities for Medicare. It is the difference between the wild ass guess for Medicare taxes and the even wilder ass guess of Medicare expenses for some unspecified number of years (usually 75 years, but I can make it a really big debt if I assume the expected life of the universe). Similarly, $13.6 trillion is the Social Security shortfall.
10 posted on 05/27/2009 10:33:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: icwhatudo
Where you been? The debt clock is behind considering how much both parties spewed within 100 days (both ways) of inauguration.
11 posted on 05/27/2009 10:38:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Too bad I won’t be around to help pay it off.


12 posted on 05/27/2009 10:41:29 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

“There is no other solution to this problem, other than to attempt to inflate the $110 trillion deficit away.”

Bingo. Consider that inflation is a way for the government to take your money without passing a new tax or law.

Inflation is the perfect way to redistribute wealth. I’m sure 0bama will manage to look surprised and concerned at the press conference.

In the meantime, gold is looking good.


13 posted on 05/27/2009 10:49:04 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

the medicare obligations will be “defaulted” on. Baby boomers will get bare-bones medical care when Medicare is merged with the single-payer plan.


14 posted on 05/27/2009 11:14:33 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

What would be the Credit Score for the U.S. if it was applying for a home loan?


15 posted on 05/27/2009 11:16:12 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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What would be the Credit Score for the U.S. if it was applying for a home loan?
It doesn't matter what it is, Freddie or Fannie will still give them a loan.
16 posted on 05/27/2009 12:09:30 PM PDT by jimmango
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To: NavyCanDo

the flaw in the accounting is that if the Medicare obligations are a liability ... then they are an asset to the future recipients.

In reality, the value of the “asset” is much less than the present calculation. Therefore, the liability is less. Bottom line: baby boomers are not as wealthy as they assume.


17 posted on 05/27/2009 12:11:29 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: NavyCanDo

500?


18 posted on 05/27/2009 12:29:12 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

There are many, unpalatable solutions to this problem. Unfortunately, the sooner we take our bitter medicine, the less we will have to take. I can see the future where only poor people are able to collect SS, and the age of retirement being indexed to the life expectancy ages. There are other things that can be done, which as above, are not very appealing, but at this point are necessary. We need to make our politicians deal with this future crisis, or it will be unmanageable in the future.


19 posted on 05/27/2009 2:29:57 PM PDT by krogers58
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