Posted on 06/20/2009 4:17:38 PM PDT by OrangeHoof
Alarm and Muster The document that started a movement.
Alarm and Muster The Modern Day Call Tree for Emergency Preparation.
The American philosopher Josiah Royce anticipated the rise to power of people like Obama in Royce's 1913 book The Problem of Christianity, the text of which is available online.
Here are quotes from Part 1, Lecture 3:
"The more the social will expresses itself in vast organizations of collective power, the more are individuals trained to be aware of their own personal wants and choices and ideals, and of the vast opportunities that would be theirs if they could but gain control of these social forces. The more, in sum, does their individual self-will become conscious, deliberate, cultivated, and therefore dangerously alert and ingenious."
"It is a sensitive self-will, which feels the importance of the social forces, and which wants them to grow more powerful, so that haply they may be used by the individual himself. And so, when opportunity offers, the individual self-will casts its vote in favor of new devices to enrich or to entensify the expression of the collective will. For it desires social powers. It wants them for its own use."
Josiah Royce nailed the motives of liberal politicians in 1913, when they were establishing the Federal Reserve Bank as a tool that could be used, and is now being used, as a tool for enriching and intensifying "the expression of the collective will", meaning the will of socialists like Obama.
No, I'm counting on it. They are personally corrupt, not just corporately. The representatives and senators want to hold on to their power (and the perks thereof) far more than they care about Obama. They know they'd get voted out of office (even if replaced by another dem)if they're associated with a do-nothing President. They'll vote to impeach -- if for no other reason than to save their own miserable hides.
Besides...they also know, deep down, that an attack on US soil, if unanswered, will quickly lead to the third box of democracy.
Mormons never miss a chance to proselytize, however those who fall for this should visit these links:
Skeptics Annotated Book of Mormon
Joseph Smith as a Sexual Predator
Here's a sample from LDS.org. The Book of Abraham, Chapter 4.
Let's go for meat before milk this time or otherwise entitled, "What the missionaries won't tell you".
Beware, people - 2 Corinthians 11:4.
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
It will go down like this. There will probably be a nuclear strike ( maybe in the Pacific) because the Asians know BO will fold like the boneless fairy princess that he is and he will try to give in to all demands by other countries. Our military will then march into the White house and simply say “We are now in charge because you and your cabinet are a threat to national security.” BO, Nancy and the rest will be lead away to padded lined rooms. A year of martial law confusion then special meetings will be held reestablish a workable government minus the Marxist flare.
Theres no need for an attack when Cloward Piven is working perfectly.
BING BING BING...good answer. Most people unfamiliar with this strategy but why fire a missile when the safe route of undermining the economy over a long period of time is coming to fruition.
Keep an open mind....: it explains in detail what is/has already happened....(this is hard to refute ....most of this has already happened)
...http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
I think you’re probably correct. 0bama certainly wouldn’t be above using an attack, even of that magnitude, for personal and political gain. His popularity would probably skyrocket, especially among his “core constituents”.
Yes, I can. His policies may be naive and ruinous, but I don't believe for a second he actually wants America to be attacked. And, if the unthinkable were to happen, it's because of his stupidity, naiviety, and arrogance; not because he purposely orchestrated it.
“If Obama failed to respond to an attack on US soil, hed be impeached faster than you could say treason or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
Do you honestly think a DIM controlled congress would impeach their own messiah? For any reason?
Well, I'm glad you've brought that old lemon in for an overhaul. Let's take a look under the hood of 2 Nephi...because if you have read 2 Nephi cover-to-cover, you didn't read it carefully for "mechanical problems":
A Review of 2 Nephi -- with much thanks to Colleen Ralson of Watchman Fellowship...I'll paraphrase what she noted in her 1988 version of Color Me Confused...please contact the Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center at PO Box 93, Nauvoo, IL, 62354 for a full copy:
So, here we are 550 years before Christ...and there's production of industrial steel in this era? Really? (2 Nephi 5:15-16)
And Jesus Christ was baptized 550 years before he was born? Really? (2 Nephi 31:6)
And there were followers of Christ -- 550 years before he was born? Really? (2 Nephi 28:14)
And the word "Bible" -- which is derived from a Greek word and this word was first used in the third century before Christ, was supposedly first used in America 250 years before the Greeks did? Really? (2 Nephi 29:3)
And here Nephi supposedly built "a temple after the manner of Solomon" (2 Nephi 5:16) -- a temple that took over 150,000 workers and 30,000 overseers to construct in Jerusalem. And how many folks did Nephi have? Well, this supposedly took place just a few years post-Jerusalem years for "Nephi" and his family...he couldn't have had more than 2-4 dozen folks.
And what about the racism of 2 Nephi?
#1 The original 2 Nephi 30:6 read "white and delightsome" before the post-1977 Book of Mormon editors decided to put the phrase "pure and delightsome" in its place. Yup. This verse said for 147 years that you receive a blessing from God, and you, too, will turn into a "white and delightsome" people.
#2 2 Nephi 5:21 still reads, in a supposed description of Native Americans: And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint...
[And so how did the Mormon god curse these Native Americans?]:
wherefore, as they WERE white, and exceeding fair and delightsome,
that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
[Uh, didn't anyone tell Smith that Native Americans were brown -- not black; and that Jews haven't always been characterized as white -- but rather olive-skinned? And more importantly...didn't anybody bother to inform Smith and his followers that skin color was NOT-- and never has been -- a "curse" from God???]
And why does 2 Nephi 26:16 speak positively of "familiar spirits" when Leviticus 20:27 describe these spirits in a negative way?
Besides, a huge chunk of 2 Nephi is outright plagiarism:
2 Nephi 7 --> a copy of Isaiah 50
2 Nephi 8 --> a copy of Isaiah 51 [Ralson notes: "even italicized words that were added later to the King James Version for clarification, are found here"]
2 Nephi 12 --> a copy of Isaiah 2
2 Nephi 13 --> a copy of Isaiah 3
2 Nephi 14 --> a copy of Isaiah 4
2 Nephi 15 --> a copy of Isaiah 5
2 Nephi 16 --> a copy of Isaiah 6
2 Nephi 17 --> a copy of Isaiah 7
2 Nephi 18 --> a copy of Isaiah 8
2 Nephi 19 --> a copy of Isaiah 9
2 Nephi 20 --> a copy of Isaiah 10
2 Nephi 21 --> a copy of Isaiah 11
2 Nephi 22 --> a copy of Isaiah 12
2 Nephi 23 --> a copy of Isaiah 13 [and please note...that the italicized words of Isaiah 13, KJ Version during Joseph Smith's day, were not in the original Hebrew from which the KJV was translated...So if they weren't in the Hebrew, how did Nephi get them? Did he reach into the future of 1611 in the UK, and superimpose them into golden plates between 559 and 545 BC?]
2 Nephi 24 --> a copy of Isaiah 14
2 Nephi 27 --> a copy of Isaiah 29
So, here we have the pure majesty of the KJ Version of the prophet Isaiah's words all throughout 2 Nephi. (That's the "mountaintop" portion of 2 Nephi). The grammatical "gutter" portion of 2 Nephi is when Joseph Smith speaks forth out of supposed "poetic license":
2 Nephi 4:14: "for a more history part are written upon mine other plates" ["more history part"??]
2 Nephi 27:13: Ralson: First is says "none" and then it says "a few." A few is not none. Which does he mean? (Ralson, p. 20)
2 Nephi 30:18: Ralson: Here it states "no more, for a long time." This is a stupid statement. Is it no more or is it a long time?
2 Nephi 31:2: Ralson: The words "save it be a few words..." are really funny when you examine 4 Nephi 1:6, where it takes the author 57 words to say 59 years past.
2 Nephi 31:3: "he speaketh unto men according to their language." Ralson: Why then were they to write in reformed Egyptian? They probably did not understand it and surely the ones who would receive the plates would not understand it, either.
I think this thread is “out there” enough without long-winded dissertations about the Book of Mormon. Thank you.
What do you care about long-winded?
(The Bible’s a bit longer...66 books...4,000 years of wind...no one forces you to read it all)
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