Dems lying to constituents about ObamaCare

Vanity | 7/18/09

[pabianice]

I received this email from a friend here in MA after sending him info on ObamaCare:

"Hi,

"This is one of the more blatent dishonesties "FreeRepublic" has promulgated.

"The article begins: "On Page 425 of Obama's health care bill, the Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them about hospice to die when their healthcare needs are not made available."

"But Obama's health care bill is only 125 pages long, and nowhere has such language. Here's a copy of the bill. (attached)"

The Dems are lying to their own constituants.

[pabianice]

I beieve his US Rep. is John Tierney.

[Gaffer]

I don’t give a rat’s ass about how long “Obama’s Health care bill” is; how big is the actual bill that the House is voting on? You can bet your sweet ass it isn’t just 125 pages.

[Kansas58]

Why should we believe they counted the pages, when we know that they have not read it?

[Gaffer]

Agreed....just for shits and giggles, I clicked on ‘their’ link of the 125 page document which God knows who/where it came from......the document itself is 167 pages, not 125....they even lie when they try to ‘prove’ a point with fake evidence....

[DJ MacWoW]

Did you send them a link to what Freepers were reading online?

[TribalPrincess2U]

Thanks, I was hoping someone would put
this in again.

There are some who still don’t know what bill would do to them.

[John O]

You messed up the title

Dems lying to constituants about ObamaCare

There. Now it's more accurate, (and of cousre we are not surprised. Lying is what they do)

[cycle of discernment]

I sent a colleague the info from FR about the mandatory counseling for those on SS with the link to Fred Thompson’s interview:

This is what my Obama fan colleague shot back to me:

>>>The National Coordinator of Health Information Technology is not a new
bureaucracy created in the stimulus. Bush signed it into office in 2004.
it has a web site, a director, and, presumably, a phone line, which
could have been used by McCaughey or Bloomberg to check the next fact:
That it will “monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what
the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.”

You’ll be shocked to learn that, no, it doesn’t do this, either.
McCaughey is darkly conflating two things: One is medical health
records. That’s what the NCHIT oversees. It’s a coordinating authority
that helps “guide the nationwide implementation of interoperable health
information technology in both the public and private health care
sectors, to the extent permitted by law; and provides comments and
advice at the request of OMB regarding specific Federal health
information technology programs.” In other words, it’s helping the
private sector move your medical records from manila envelopes to
computers, and trying to help the private sector settle on a single
standard so the records can be shared among different providers. That
way, if you have an emergency and are taken by ambulance to the
hospital, your primary care doctors can e-mail them your information
immediately so you don’t die from a drug allergy they didn’t know about.
This is all about a decade away from happening, incidentally.

Meanwhile, the thing McCaughey is actually talking about, or trying to
talk about, or trying to lie about, is comparative effectiveness review.
The stimulus bill funds increased research into the value of different
treatments. This sort of research goes on every day, all the time.
Foundations fund it, as do universities and even pharmaceutical
companies. Not only isn’t it sinister, it’s not even particularly
interesting.

As for McCaughey’s broader claim, nothing in the bill, nor in the
structure of the federal government, gives the Secretary of Health and
Human Services the capacity, funding, authority, or mandate to monitor
the medical profession’s treatment decisions and decide if they’re
appropriate. There may come a day when that data is used to make
coverage decisions, but that day is not today, and nothing in the
stimulus brings it any closer. Indeed, doing so would be a question not
of data collection but of payment reform (you’d have to change payment
rates to reflect the research). There is nothing on that in the bill.
McCaughey is simply lying, much as she did in 1990s. And, like in the
1990s, her lies are convenient, and they’re being amplified by
opportunistic rightwing outlets. But this isn’t the 90s. And the thing
about nostalgia tours is they never last very long, and they’re never as
effective as the original.<<

[RowdyFFC]

Obama’s health care hoax is 1,018 pages long...on page 16 is the nice little tidbit under ‘Limitations of Enrollment’ it makes it ILLEGAL for a private insurance company to write you a policy the first day of the year after this bill becomes law.

IBD has not even finished reading it yet, and they found Obama’s lie that YOU WILL HAVE OPTIONS...

Your only choice is to keep the insurance policy you have now...should for any reason you lose that policy...the only other option is the commie health care hoax being legislated as we speak.

[DJ MacWoW]

There are lots of gems in there such as, hospitals can’t expand without government permission and mandatory assisted suicide counseling for the aged. Nice people!

[digger48]

Steve Buyer (R-IN) was on a radio show this week. He suggested voters ask their congressmen just how long it took them to read this bill.

If they say anything less than 12 hours.....they're lying.

1100 pages!

[CyberAnt]

Exactly .. BECAUSE IT’S NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE - IT’S ABOUT MORE POWER!!!

With that power comes CONTROL - which is exactly what the liberals/progressives want .. control over America whereby everyone is subservient to the “elite” class - ergo CONGRESS.

What happened to the American patriot in govt. - there are plenty of them in the general public .. but not many in govt. We need people who are not afraid of the liberals.

Rush ask the GOP a great question this week - The GOP has to choose - OBAMA or saving AMERICA. I sure hope they make the right choice because I’m sick and tired of their excuses.

[God luvs America]

your friend is not very original and if he tried to pawn this off as his own opinion he/she’s full of it:

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=02&year=2009&base_name=lies_damn_lies_and_betsy_mccau

[pabianice]

Does ANYONE have a link to the 1,000+ page bill?

[gunner03]

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf