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The Island of Dr. Fukino - Bizarre Statements on Obama's origins
PA Times | 7/29/09 | Pissant

Posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:01 PM PDT by pissant

Back in October 2008, after the dreaded Constitutionalists began closing in on Obama's fraudulent Certification of Live Birth (COLB), out popped the Head of Hawaii's Dept of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, a middle aged, balding, sturdy woman, to provide the first of two statements she would make in an attempt to tamp down the controversy.

"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record"

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

But the controversy was NOT that Obama did not have an original birth certificate. The controversy was that he had not RELEASED it. The Constitutionalists and AfterBirthers both understood that the COLB scan Obama allegedly sent to leftwing organs FactCheck and DailyKos was at best a modern, computer generated summation document with limited info culled from a State database. Constitutionalists claimed it to a fraud, while AfterBirthers claimed it reflected reality.

Fukino's lawyer-produced statement gives the impression of legitimizing Obama's COLB, but it did not. She did not mention it, she did not verify its contents, but she did confirm they had the "original birth certificate" on file. Yet her non-statement had the AfterBirthers crowing, but the Constitutionalists knew they were being handed a line of nothingness, and continued to plow on.

Fast forward to late July of 2009. The Constitutionalists continued to hammer away, the AfterBirther leftie blogosphere continued to argue that "Obama already released his 'birth certificate", and the State Run Media (SRM) was content to ignore the situation altogether. They ignored it, because it made no sense to draw attention to the fact the lawsuits demanding Obama show his BC were continuing; and Obama was spending a kings ransom on high buck lawyers from Perkins Coie to suppress the release of his BC.

But 6 things happened that forced the SRM to get back into the game.

1) Rush Limbaugh was making more frequent jokes and statements regarding Obama not having produced a BC

2) One of Orly Taitz' lawsuits was given life by a federal judge.

3) The Constitutionalists were kicking the AfterBirthers butts in the blogosphere.

4) Lou Dobbs of CNN demanded Obama release the BC.

5) A case of a US soldier demanding Obama cough up his BC before he would deploy made the news.

6) A woman was taped at republican Mike Castles town hall meeting browbeating the hapless RINO. And the audience cheered her on. The tape went viral on Youtube

So suddenly one morning last week, America woke up to find a barrage of SRM articles condemning the "crazy", "nutty" Constitutionalists (who they call birthers) and proclaiming that the issue had been "settled" last year. They all used the same talking points, lifted right out of Media Matters or FactCheck. And every major SRM outlet particpated. It's almost as if Obama's marxist henchman David Axelrod had started another Astroturf project.But the Constitutionalists fought back, and exposed the gaping holes in the SRM's narrative. In the meantime, more republican house members were signing up as sponsors for a bill to make future presidential candidates cough up their BCs in order to make the ballot.

So in steps Dr. Fukino, once more. Another carefully crafted lawyer written statement was released on July 27, 2009. It reads:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.

Once again, to the casual observer, this looks like a definitive statement that puts Obama in the free and clear. But note the lack of the words "birth certificate". Instead she uses the term vital records. Well, the darn COLB was a summation of vital records. Any family request to change Obama's birth from foreign or non-Hawaiian to Hawaiian would be part of the vital records. Any request to have Obama legally adopted would be part of the vital records. She also does not state that Obama IS Hawaiian born, she says the vital records she looked at say so, which could have been changed to reflect a request from the family, given the right circumstances. And I'll guarantee you that the vital records did not say he is a "natural born citizen", as Miss Fukino states. Miss Fukino is a medical doctor, and not a constitutional or immigration law scholar, and it is highly suspect that she would in include this in her statement. The smart money says an Obama lawyer helped her craft this slippery blurb.

It still stands that no HI gov't official, Miss Fukino included, has ever:

1) Verified that the COLB Obama presented via FactCheck and DailyKos is a valid document.

2) Verified that the information on the COLB is accurate.

3) Verified what information is on the original vault birth certificate.

4) Verified what, if any, changes were requested and accepted to Obama's vital records.

5) Verified who Obama's mother and father are.

6) Verified what hospital Obama was born in.

7) Verified who the attending doctor was for Obama's Birth.

So the beat goes on. Also, one has to wonder, since it is specifically against the law for an official to release information regarding Obama's birth certificate except to a legal family member, how this 2nd statement came about. It could very well be, she did not release any information from Obama's birth certificate at all.

Consider this little "nope, we can't do it" email from Dr. Fukino's spokesbabe Janice Okubo in response to a questions from the blogger that runs 24Ahead (I'm including his questions for clarity):

Here are the questions I sent them:

1. Did that statement (or any other official statement from the state government) confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii , as some have assumed?

2. Did that statement (or any other official statement from the state government) confirm that the certificate you have on file matches the one on Obama's website?

3. Is it illegal under Hawaii state law to confirm where Obama was born, or to confirm that the certificate you have on file matches the one on Obama's website?

And, here's the non-reply reply:

Dr. Fukino has said that her statement stands on its own, and she does not feel there is any need for further comment.

Hawaii State law protects the birth records of all individuals born in our state under all circumstances. State law prohibits the Department of Health from disclosing any information about a Hawaii vital record unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. This includes verification of vital records and all the information contained in a record. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

For information on the law that governs vital records in the State of Hawaii , please refer to HRS §338 at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/

Information on obtaining certified copies of vital records is available on the Hawaii DOH website at www.hawaii.gov/health

Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Hawaii State Department of Health

The plot only thickens my friends. We will get to the bottom of this fraudulence one way or another.


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KEYWORDS: certifigate; eligibility; larrysinclairslover; naturalborncitizen; nobama; obama
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1 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:04 PM PDT by pissant
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To: LucyT; STARWISE

Ping a ling


2 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:34 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
When did it become Hawai‘i?
3 posted on 07/29/2009 8:54:21 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: pissant

Keep up the pressure...the nations future depends on it!


4 posted on 07/29/2009 8:58:52 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: pissant

Ping pong


5 posted on 07/29/2009 9:00:44 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

Well done .. PING!


6 posted on 07/29/2009 9:01:16 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: pissant
Remember that Obama admitted on fight the smears truth that he had dual citizenship in Great Britain through his father. How can one be a natural born US citizen AND a citizen of GB?

Also, this is a direct link to Hawaii.gov concerning handling legalities of vital records.

§338-18 Disclosure of records -Hawaii.gov

(a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

7 posted on 07/29/2009 9:01:51 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: pissant

See’s a medical person, not a Lawyer!
Could her reference to “Natural Born” be meant to exclude a “Caesarean Section” delivery?????


8 posted on 07/29/2009 9:04:53 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: the invisib1e hand

Always been, actually.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 9:08:44 PM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS [with oak leaf clusters])
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To: pissant

Hawaii Lie Echo?


10 posted on 07/29/2009 9:10:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: pissant
AfterBirthers

lol!

11 posted on 07/29/2009 9:18:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: pissant
The Island of Dr. Fukino

I love it. Sounds like a South Park episode.

Remember, she declared him to be an "American Natural Born Citizen".

She then reiterated the fact that she was not a lawyer, and did not have a "legal background".

If that doesn't constitute the biggest non- sequitur ever, I do not know what does.

12 posted on 07/29/2009 9:19:08 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: pissant

Did you know? Obama’s half sister, born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth

The Philadelphia Examiner
July 27, 12:08 AM

Maya Soetoro was born to Indonesian businessman Lolo Soetoro and American cultural anthropologist Ann Dunham and half-sister to the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama. While living in Indonesia, she was home-schooled by her mother and then attended Jakarta International School and returned to Hawaii and attended the private Punahou School in Honolulu, Hawaii, graduating in 1988.

Besides being the First Sister Maya has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth despite being born in Jakarta Indonesia. Supposedly this certificate was used by the Daily Kos to forge an Obama version. Anyone find it odd that Maya, undisputedly born in Indonesia, would have the same type of document as Barack Obama to forge?


13 posted on 07/29/2009 9:21:39 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: pissant
Based on her comments, she either broke the law or Obama gave her permission to make those comments. Is that allowed by the statutes? In the future, can other citizens expect the same when their long form certificates are required?

On another point, I would like to see someone sue in California on the basis of the precedent set by the California judge in the Jack Ryan custody records case where he ruled that the release of those records was a matter of public interest. I don't think this is part of the Keyes suit but could be wrong.

14 posted on 07/29/2009 9:26:07 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: pissant
Constitutionalists claimed it to a fraud, while AfterBirthers claimed it reflected reality

ROFLMAO

when some one calls you a birther correct them and tell them you are a constitionalist and ask them if they are an afterbirther!!!!

15 posted on 07/29/2009 9:27:58 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: skeptoid
Always been, actually.

Oh. I guess my racist white teachers were wrong about it being Hawaii, then.

Anyway, looks like a nice place for an apostrophe. Cool, isn't it, since we're all so used to extraneous apostrophes, this fad of muslimizing w'ords gives us a reason t'o.

16 posted on 07/29/2009 9:30:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: pissant

Good summation!


17 posted on 07/29/2009 9:42:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: FTJM
Heil Obama, mein Kenyan Fuhrer!
18 posted on 07/29/2009 9:50:05 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: the invisib1e hand
Anyway, looks like a nice place for an apostrophe. Cool, isn't it, since we're all so used to extraneous apostrophes, this fad of muslimizing w'ords gives us a reason t'o.

It's not muslimizing. The apostrophe represents a glottal stop to aid in pronunciation and natives of Hawai'i use it quite frequently as do many other languages in transliteration. That doesn't mean "Hawaii" is less acceptable.

19 posted on 07/29/2009 10:00:55 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: Rome2000

bump


20 posted on 07/29/2009 10:01:45 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I know whatcha mean, but Don Ho Himself pronounced it that way.

That's all I need.

21 posted on 07/29/2009 10:05:24 PM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS [with oak leaf clusters])
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To: pissant

great job pissant but, but, but.. the ‘state of hawaii’ SAYS it is true!!!! oh no, what will we do?!


22 posted on 07/29/2009 10:06:03 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223; jimrob

I’ll ping jimrob to get a verdict


23 posted on 07/29/2009 10:06:53 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
This momentum in the MSM is all White House spin to counteract Russian and Mossad. They have the data and they are “pushing” Obama under threat of releasing the data and destroying his failing presidency. Obama thinks he can neutralize the issue by marginalizing it. If people get sick of the birth certificate issue and conclude its a non-story, then any revelation of us unqualified status may just blow over. Obama is desperate and this Birther eruption is a desperate attempt to neutralize the story before the Russians and/or Mossad blackmail him...
24 posted on 07/29/2009 10:09:56 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: pissant

Extremely well done.


25 posted on 07/29/2009 10:10:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama COVER-UP continues...)
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To: pissant
Hey, Obama! Just show us the data. If you are clean it will all blow over and you can get back to destroying America! Whacha hidin?
26 posted on 07/29/2009 10:11:33 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“Always been, actually.” Which is a correct statement.

“Oh. I guess my racist white teachers were wrong about it being Hawaii, then.”

Now, don’t get your back up about the spelling of the state name. Nothing has changed. The reason for the apostrophe is more for pronunciation accuracy than anything else. When spelled without the apostrophe, many would say something that sounds like ha-why. The correct pronunciation is closer to ha-wa-i-i, therefore the apostrophe is inserted. Before moving here to the Big Island, I knew nothing of this.
Since then, I have also heard our Gov.Lingle (from So. Cal) go out of her way to use the true Hawaiian pronunciation which is pronouncing the letter “w” as “V”...and sounds funny when pronounced slowly, but correct at normal speed.
I hope this has helped and not muddied the water so to speak. Mahalo (thanks)


27 posted on 07/29/2009 10:11:53 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: Red Steel; FTJM; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
We MUST get our hands on Hawaii Administrative Rules, Chapter 117 (Title 11) of the Vital Statistics, Registration & Records Office. It will tell us what the office procedures, policies, definitions, etc for the birth certificate program.

Alvin Onaka has been working on the conversion from the old Public Health Regulations Chapters 8, 8A, and 8B of the Administrative Rules for MORE THAN A YEAR.

The rules are not online, AFAICT, since June 2007. No luck finding it in archives. We REALLY need to find (or request from the office via FOIA) this document -- it will answer a lot of questions...

Office of Health Status Monitoring

117

Vital Statistics, Registration & Records. Converting from Public Health Regulations Chapters 8, 8A, and 8B
to Administrative Rules.

 

New Rules in Process
Alvin Onaka
(808) 586-4600


28 posted on 07/29/2009 10:13:16 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: pissant

Bump


29 posted on 07/29/2009 10:14:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: pissant

Where can I get a copy of the PA Times?


30 posted on 07/29/2009 10:17:58 PM PDT by woofie
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To: pissant

what is jimrob’s take on all of this? I have not seen anything by him on it.


31 posted on 07/29/2009 10:23:38 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: BP2; pissant; Red Steel; Beckwith; Fred Nerks

32 posted on 07/29/2009 10:24:27 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

Koolaid Bob!


33 posted on 07/29/2009 10:25:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: pissant

bump


34 posted on 07/29/2009 10:26:41 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: PhilDragoo

I like the cherry flavor


35 posted on 07/29/2009 10:28:05 PM PDT by woofie
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To: BP2
The rules are not online, AFAICT, since June 2007

The same month as the date stamp on the COLB.

36 posted on 07/29/2009 10:28:39 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: April Lexington
This momentum in the MSM is all White House spin to counteract Russian and Mossad. They have the data and they are “pushing” Obama under threat of releasing the data and destroying his failing presidency.

What Obama data does Russia and Mossad have? 'Data' is a bit vague.

37 posted on 07/29/2009 10:33:24 PM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: Velveeta

Yep, all about the same time.

We REALLY need a copy of the OLD version or a draft of the new Administrative Rules & policies being drafted in Chapter 117.


38 posted on 07/29/2009 10:35:55 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: pissant

Great article....also depressing. It looks like the shills in Hawaii’s Dept of Health are succumbing to the jack-boot of the Chicago machine and the full force, fraud and power of the White Hut. Tampering with the actual records is only a matter of time if it hasn’t happened already.


39 posted on 07/29/2009 10:36:11 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: getontwitterfacebknow
Intelligence systems gather data on all public figures who have any chance of becoming national political figures. Obama is one such person. They had his birth information and dual citizen information before Obama figured it out. He's been bucking and winging on this for some years now but its too late. If Obama doesn't do their dirty work...poof! The data shows up on the front page of the New York times and his administration goes down in a puff of smoke. Blackmail... Watch Biden and Hillary. Bill was visiting the CIA today for a reason...
40 posted on 07/29/2009 10:37:11 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
'member Don Ho?'

Fighter pilot, father of ten (in two batches)?

MISTER HAWAI'I ???

Tiny Bubbles ??

41 posted on 07/29/2009 10:39:40 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: April Lexington
Bill was visiting the CIA today for a reason...

Holy cow! You're right.

Put two and two together...

42 posted on 07/29/2009 10:41:28 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: getontwitterfacebknow
Passport information when Obama was on his travels in the 80s.

Also, info compiled/compared when he and other Senators were detained in Aug 2005:
Lugar (Obama) delegation detained for three hours in Perm after inspecting nuke weapons facility

43 posted on 07/29/2009 10:43:46 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Bookmark.


44 posted on 07/29/2009 10:44:50 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: April Lexington

Doubt NYT would ever turn on Obama. They may report after the fact, but highly unlikely that NYT would cross Obama like that out of the gate.


45 posted on 07/29/2009 10:47:06 PM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: Cyropaedia

Obama has been outmaneuvered. The frantic push for health care legislation says it all. This guy will not be a political force by fall if the information leaks out. Its lame duck for 3.5 years or a resignation... Keep in mind... Rahm spent time in Israel and it wasn’t to learn how to plant olives. They have their man in the White House and now that man is being asked to dance...


46 posted on 07/29/2009 10:48:13 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: getontwitterfacebknow

I used NYT as a metaphor for the media. It will likely leak from Chicago...


47 posted on 07/29/2009 10:49:10 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: BP2

What ‘info’ would be compiled/compared? If they already had the info, doubt the 2005 incident provided any additional info.

They don’t need to blackmail Obama. Highly unlikely that Obama has any issues with the Russian agenda. They probably see eye to eye on most issues. No reason to blackmail.


48 posted on 07/29/2009 10:51:01 PM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: April Lexington

Rahm isn’t Israel’s man. He’s Soros’ man.


49 posted on 07/29/2009 10:53:12 PM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: pissant
Love it! Well done. I gave this seemy story a spin today. But i enjoyed your version more!
50 posted on 07/29/2009 10:54:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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