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[Prophet in the wilderness]

Imagine the world's ridicule and condemnation if our government does a Tiananmen Square crack down on US citizens

[Durus]

We aren't unarmed chinese peasants.

[Ajnin]

I wonder if that dude knows his facial features can be revealed with Photoshop.

[Shooter 2.5]

The government is not our enemy. The enemy is a group of politicians who make a game out of destroying our freedoms, livelihoods and property.

[Oldpuppymax]

Makes me wonder if this is really a psycho, or a member of the Obama brigade hoping to make everyone think those in favor of standing up for their rights are nut bars! It’s a fair question.

[piperpilot]

I think we need to be a little less cavalier about the prospect of insurrection. The Bible says to submit to authority and trust in God’s plan.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

" We aren't unarmed chinese peasants. "

Yes,you right,
but, the world knows that America is suppose to be the one that champions human rights.
The world knows that we have a Constitution that gives us these rights, and if the world sees our government cracking down on American citizens for just expressing their US Constitution rights, they will Condemn us for being hypocrites...
I am afraid, that after the Nov 4 2008 election, that we are well passed the thresh hold and well into a US Constitutional crises.
I guess the next label of attack by the MSM and Liberals, and Obama is that we are not really American citizens, or deny our citizenship..... opps, wait, I spoke to soon, they are already calling us " UN - AMERICAN " and in affect, they denied my US Citizenship, and US Citizen rights...

[Jotmo]

I think we need to be a little less cavalier about the prospect of insurrection. The Bible says to submit to authority and trust in God’s plan.

So I take you disapprove of that nasty "American Revolution" thingy that took place some time ago?

Not very submissive was it.

[Durus]

I agree that we have passed the threshold and are well into a constitutional crisis. Cracking down on Americans though won't be as easy as running over some student protesters with tanks. There are a lot of people just waiting for a spark and the conflagration won't be pretty.

[Harold Hill]

The world knows that we have a Constitution that gives us these rights..

 My heart hurts a little bit each time I read or hear a statement like this, and especially in a conservative forum.

We are BORN with our rights! The constititution is in place to prevent the government from infringing on those rights.

If we don't understand that one simple basic fact, then how can we prevail? It's seems that for some, deep in their core, that fact has been snuffed out.

[Durus]

Submit to "authority" all you like. There are many people that believe in the rights guaranteed by the constitution that will not submit. Or in the words of a founding father that wasn't that big on submission...

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams

Or perhaps this might be familiar?

"What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" Patrick Henry

[OneWingedShark]

>I think we need to be a little less cavalier about the prospect of insurrection. The Bible says to submit to authority and trust in God’s plan.

Where does the Bible say that you are to treat your rights as worthless? Or do you forget the condemnation Esau received for selling his birth-right for a meal? Do you not remember that God said to Noah, after the flood, that should a man shed man’s blood then his blood should be shed by man because man is created in God’s image? (That is, capital punishment for murder.)

Also, what about the American ideal of a government ‘By the People’? Or do you consider yourself not of ‘the People’?

Micha 6:8 says that to DO Justly is what God requires of man; where is the justice in letting a corrupt elite conspire to rob, plunder, and do violence against any who get in their way?

Remember the book of Esther: where the political elite took it into their hands to make a law legalizing the killing of the jews? Remember how the queen’s maneuvering got another law passed; one which allowed the jews to gather together, armed, and defend themselves? Tell me what would have happened if they hadn’t taken advantage of that ability to defend themselves saying “it is legal that they should kill us; we should submit to authority!”?

The truth is that the Founding Fathers recognized that Government was not friendly to the people, and ensured the recognition of God given rights: hence, the Bill of Rights.
Amendment 2 states: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state; the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

This was to ensure a free state, is says so itself, and the military oath is not to the president, the congress, or the USSC, but to the Constitution. In other words, they recognized the very real danger of a corrupt government; and a corrupt government is an anathema to the free state they sought to create.

[TNdandelion]

Haha....if god’s followers had a GPS and weren’t so passive they could have found their destination in less than 40 years and given the Romans a run for their money.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Please forgive me if I didn't articulate what I was trying to say... I thank you for correcting me...
Yes, we have God given unalienable rights....


( We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ) ......

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I do not think God would also approve of people just sitting around during Nazi German during WWII who knew of the atrocities that were going on in the Jewish ghettos, Nazi concentration camps and thought, " well, the Bible says we must summit to the governing authorities " ....
God see's a life more valuable to him than some government ...
For God, the killing of the jews in WWII Germany was more of a crime in his eyes then people rebelling against that very government that condoned killing jews and were killing jews.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Our founders of this country were wize .....

[piperpilot]

Well said and well documented. I think I just overreacted to the cumulative effect of all the talk lately about unrest. I think our efforts should be focused on making the 2010 mid term elections a game changer.

[Eagle Eye]

The Bible says to submit to authority and trust in God’s plan.

The context is clearly 'within the church'.

Otherwise you have to explain to me how God selected and ordained hitler, et al. Those who try it come across as real idiots.

[Centurion2000]

Imagine the world's ridicule and condemnation if our government does a Tiananmen Square crack down on US citizens

Those tanks wouldn't last 30 minutes in a real street level brawl with armed Americans.