Yeah! Go get 'em, Bubba.
Posted on 09/19/2009 4:39:21 PM PDT by curth
‘Why is there an “EXIT” sign over that window?”
wishful thinking...
Had enough yet?
This is simply stealing property and wages. The government has no right to do this. The Constitution protects property rights and says that the government can only take property in limited situations and that it must justly compensate the property owner.
I wish the governor would have the water turned on and that he would place the national guard on the site to keep anyone from turning the water off. What would the judges do them? Andrew Jackson defied the Supreme Court. We need leaders like him right now. What makes the Supreme Court supreme? Does the word supreme mean that they are above the President, legislators, governors and the voters? They are not supreme over everyone, they are only supreme over other courts. They do not have any special rights above everyone else. That would make them dictators.
We don’t beg or plead for our rights - we DEMAND them!
“What exactly would happen if they, the Central Valley farmers, turned out en masse and forced open the water valves themselves? Is it possible? Is it not time to take their very survival into their own hands?”
This is exactly what I would try to do, were I out there and in their shoes. Massive civil disobedience. Take the water.
But, but what about all the corn that was supposed to fill our gas tanks!
Yeah! Go get 'em, Bubba.
I’ll suggest it, though at this point I don’t think firearms are needed. Just a lot of strong minded people. Turn the valve, let the water flow.
WTH? And they are supposed to be the good guys.
A free country is not govt controlled.
Obvious conclusion about the USA is?
Think we are free?
Try buying some raw land and then just building on it without Govt approval$$$$.
Try being retired elderly with little income and unable to pay the annual property tax. And try to keep the Govt from throwing the old folks out of their home.
Free country indeed.
Unfortunately, Gov S’s toughness begins with the film’s title and ends with the credits. As a Governor, he campaigned as the Terminator and governed as PeeWee Herman (not the tough guy he portrays in the movies).
HUGE disappointment. Will vote for Daffy Duck before vote for Gov Wimponator again.
Could you clarify who you are talking about? I am interested in this issue but don’t understand your post.
Guys, this is going to affect the entire nation next year, especially with this ethynol crazy administration. Food shortages are coming.
I had high hopes for Arnie but it wasn’t long after he became the guv that disappointment set in.
It’s Pelosi and George Miller, they want the farmers to go bankrupt and sell their farms so they can buy them and turn the area into a solar farm from which they will profit handsomely.
I didn’t know that. Pelosi is an evil witch.
Thanks.
Sorry, but I’m not on the farmer’s side, they are getting water subsidies off the tax-payers. Let *them* cover the full cost of irrigation, not the tax-payer. This isn’t an environmental issue, it’s an economic issue. If this farming would be so good for the economy then private investors would be funding it, including the irrigation.
I don’t think it has anything to do with refusal to pay their fair share. Do you know that they are not paying for their irrigation???
From what I have heard, the EPA is shutting them down due to environmental impact of Delta Smelt. From what I understand, they were guaranteed water rights when farms were established long ago. The state wanted them to farm. I am not sure some of their legit water is not being damned up farther north...some areas are.
So it is about a fish, the delta smelt versus economics. The ag economy is a little different from other sectors of the economy, which may explain the issue of subsidies if in fact they are receiving them. If we have no food, we have a major problem that becomes an issue of national security The food supply needs to be maintained and they are a critical part of that.
In addition to not growing, they are not paying taxes, jobs are lost so welfare is increased. IMHO, it makes no senses to keep the water damned up north of them.
California has a system of dams and canals which captures whatever snowfall or rain we receive. Over the years, the Federal government has decided our God-given water is THEIRS to tinker with, so we were forced to SELL water to Southern California because it never rains there supposedly.
Then the enviro-whacko’s took over the Delta and the water supply and now we have to protect a Fairy Shrimp and now this Smelt. When you pay $10 for a head of lettuce and $5 for one tomato, please thank the environmental/Green movement. The sad part, is that these people, the farmers, mostly Hispanic, have NO voice in this. They are the ones standing in line for food, wondering whatever possessed them to come to America in the first place.
California has a system of dams and canals which captures whatever snowfall or rain we receive. Over the years, the Federal government has decided our God-given water is THEIRS to tinker with, so we were forced to SELL water to Southern California because it never rains there supposedly.
Then the enviro-whacko’s took over the Delta and the water supply and now we have to protect a Fairy Shrimp and now this Smelt. When you pay $10 for a head of lettuce and $5 for one tomato, please thank the environmental/Green movement. The sad part, is that these people, the farmers, mostly Hispanic, have NO voice in this. They are the ones standing in line for food, wondering whatever possessed them to come to America in the first place.
Should add that if the trees dry up and fields turn to dust, it will not be an immediate re-establishment of food supply from that area any time soon. Part of the reason there are ag subsidies is because of the boom/bust nature of agriculture. Our economy depends on a constant, dependable food supply, which many argue subsdies ensure.
Hannity had the rally at Fresno last week. He interviewed a SF environmentalist who said the water was turned off to protect the salmon runs because all the wild salmon are dying. There is a good deal of evidence that the salmon are dying because of proximity to farmed salmon from which they contract a parasite.
Much of the water is polluted because of raw sewage from cities without sewage treatment plants.
The water situation is very complex and has been dominated by politics for 100 years.
It will take a good bit of research (honest research) and thought to resolve all the deals that have been made and introduce an truly free market to California’s water problems. It was absolutely unconscionable to turn off the water for the Delta Smelt.
Of course it is obvious that when the small farmers and landholders have been driven out the land will be bought up by corporations and farms turned into factories.
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