You are correct, thank you.
Posted on 09/21/2009 10:48:52 AM PDT by pissant
The divisions in America run deep at this moment in history, and the heated rhetoric is “ratcheted up” by the continual efforts to silence all voices of dissent, or label all dissenters “racists” no matter how unrelated to race or valid their complaints might be.
Still, when listening to millions of citizens showing up at town hall meetings and Tea Parties across the country, liberal Democrats see a bunch of racists. That’s what all leftists have been trained to see...
Take columnist and Fox News contributor Juan Williams for instance:
“These critics seem less interested in arguing about health care proposals than in building the case that Obama is not legitimately our national leader. - They charge Obama was not born in the United States, and therefore doesn't meet the requirements that all Presidents be native-born.” – said Williams
No Juan... These people don’t want to debate the alleged benefits of “socialized medicine” in a country where the Constitution grants the federal government NO authority on such a matter, and where FREEDOM (not government) has created the greatest nation on earth.
The issue over Barack Obama’s eligibility does NOT pertain to whether or not Barack is a “native born citizen,” but rather on the well-known FACT that he is NOT a “natural-born citizen,” and that the US Constitution clearly states that ONLY a “natural-born citizen” can be President of the United States.
To eliminate the confusion for Juan and others in his camp, “native-born” is a matter of where someone is born geographically, and “natural-born” is a matter of not only where one was born, but what his family lineage is and where his foreign loyalties rest.
There is NO debate over the fact that Obama is the “natural-born” son of a British citizen of Kenya. As such, Obama is a “natural-born” British subject and citizen of his father’s nation, Kenya. Even if he had navigated the naturalization process, becoming a “naturalized” citizen, he would not qualify for the office of president.
He claims to have been born in Hawaii, using “anchor baby” laws to support the notion that he qualifies. But even “anchor babies” are NOT “natural born citizens” for the reasons stated in the Law of Nations, at the foundation of Article II – Section I of our Constitution. They are “native-born,” thus the reason for Juan’s use of this term.
There is also NO honest debate over what the term “natural-born citizen” used by the original “birthers,” our Founding Fathers, meant, and even the US Senate was able to properly interpret the Law of Nations definition based upon Natural Law, regarding Senator John McCain last year.
But no! – Americans furious that a foreign global leader is sitting in their White House shoving anti-American policies down taxpayer throats for the benefit of leftist political power around the world, looks like a simple case of “racism” to Juan and Jimmy Carter. AMAZING!
“They make this argument even when all Hawaiian documents, officials and news stories of his birth conclusively prove he is an American.” - Williams
I honestly expect better than this. THREE COLB’s (which anyone from anywhere in the world can purchase in Hawaii) have been used as “proof” that Obama is a “natural born citizen.” NO other evidence has been offered and Obama has spent in excess of $1.5 million in legal fees to make certain that NO other evidence is ever seen. Thanks to taxpayers, he has the most powerful legal defense team in the world at his command in this effort, the Department of Justice.
This statement alone shows the absolute 100% stupidity and brainwashing that goes on with this debate.
Could Juan please fill all of us uninformed Americans on this CONCLUSIVE information that Hawaii has released:
What is the citizenship of both of his parents that is listed on his birth certificate?
What hospital was he born in?
That's true only if the POTUS validly holds the office. If 0bama is not a natural-born citizen as required by the constitution then he is a usurper and does not and never has validly held the office of POTUS.
OK then. Who with any authority is going to challenge BHO to produce a valid COLB? My point is this: No one has the guts to do this. Look what happened to poor ol Joe Wilson when he had the audacity to tell the truth about BHO. BHO is holding all the cards right now. He is the POTUS. His party has overwhelming margins in the Congress. He appoints judges, he controls the military. The media worships the ground he walks on.
At least if we took back Congress next year, we would have a better hand. Right now we have no cards to play with.
I agree that BHO will never willingly release anything.
Thus the reason for the court case to force BHO to release applicable documentation.
If the court case dies on a technicality, then the Constitution is cheapened and we’d better focus on who is counting the votes in 2012 as well as who is running.
He has. He has produced a COLB. There has been little or no evidence to the contrary. At present, Orly has an affidavit and another fake birth certificate in the record, so we are in the la-la land of evidence. There’s some on file,but its worthless IMHO.
This has been the birther problem since the beginning. Pretty much all they have are suspicions. You might find these relevant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xes0F36eTJA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_DEtfvv9MU
parsy, who says just substitute Orly’s face for the ones in the video, and you have the birther movement
LOL.
That COLB is nothing more than butt-wipe. I could get a COLB from Hawaii if I wanted to stating that, Yes, I was in fact born - that’s all that the COLB produced by Obama indicates. Yes, he was in fact born. So what? The COLB does not indicate his parents citizenship - which is the crux of the matter.
Do some real analysis and get a clue.
Why don’t you get one stating that you were born in Hawaii then? That would be relevant and some pretty good evidence that the COLB is fishy.
parsy, who is really curious if you can do it
And why then does Barry Zero continue to obstruct and redirect legitimate inquiry, Hmmmmmmm?
Maybe he likes watching you birthers run around in circles led by Madame Orly. I have to admit, it does have a certain sadistic charm to it.
parsy, who is ashamed of himself
Call me a skeptic.
In God we trust - all others bring Data - and Barry Zero has produced Zero vis Data.
Fact.
Dispute that.
I don’t dispute that you are a skeptic.
parsy, who is happy with the COLB
Nice - do you also not dispute that he’s provided ZERO for data?
And if you do dispute that he’s provided no data, what data then has he provided/produced? Hmmmmmmm?
Obama has provided his COLB. You guys just don’t want to believe it. That’s your problem, not his. Get some GOOD evidence and you might have a case.
parsy, who asks when are you birthers ever going to learn?
LOL!
that COLB has been proved to be a poor excuse for a forgery. That’s just too funny for words!
It has not been “PROVED” to be any such thing. Last I saw, some guy dissected an online image of it, but it is still a good document IMHO.
parsy, who does not believe aliens crashed at Roswell.
LOL! No, not LOL.
ROTFLMAO!
Do you need a “relevant court decision” to tell you how to wipe your ass as well?
Umm, we did, either the issue was not ripe, or no one had standing.
According to the Constitution the only legal method to remove is a sitting POTUS is through the impeachment process.
Not eligible would meant NOT POTUS. Impeachment is for Presidents, not ineligible usurpers. For them, it's go peaceably, or do the perp walk.
Citizenship of the parents is not shown on the Hawaii long form Birth Certificate of 1961. Their birthplace is however. But the BC also serves as legal proof of who the parents were. Thus if the BC says "Barrack H. Obama" born in Kenya, then that is not proof that his father was not a US Citizen, but it's one step away from it. That step involves entry and exit records and/or visa records.
You are correct, thank you.
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