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Obama Birth Certificate issue Not about Race, it's about following the Constitution
Libertarian Republican ^ | 9/20/09 | JB Williams

Posted on 09/21/2009 10:48:52 AM PDT by pissant

The divisions in America run deep at this moment in history, and the heated rhetoric is “ratcheted up” by the continual efforts to silence all voices of dissent, or label all dissenters “racists” no matter how unrelated to race or valid their complaints might be.

Still, when listening to millions of citizens showing up at town hall meetings and Tea Parties across the country, liberal Democrats see a bunch of racists. That’s what all leftists have been trained to see...

Take columnist and Fox News contributor Juan Williams for instance:

“These critics seem less interested in arguing about health care proposals than in building the case that Obama is not legitimately our national leader. - They charge Obama was not born in the United States, and therefore doesn't meet the requirements that all Presidents be native-born.” – said Williams

No Juan... These people don’t want to debate the alleged benefits of “socialized medicine” in a country where the Constitution grants the federal government NO authority on such a matter, and where FREEDOM (not government) has created the greatest nation on earth.

The issue over Barack Obama’s eligibility does NOT pertain to whether or not Barack is a “native born citizen,” but rather on the well-known FACT that he is NOT a “natural-born citizen,” and that the US Constitution clearly states that ONLY a “natural-born citizen” can be President of the United States.

To eliminate the confusion for Juan and others in his camp, “native-born” is a matter of where someone is born geographically, and “natural-born” is a matter of not only where one was born, but what his family lineage is and where his foreign loyalties rest.

There is NO debate over the fact that Obama is the “natural-born” son of a British citizen of Kenya. As such, Obama is a “natural-born” British subject and citizen of his father’s nation, Kenya. Even if he had navigated the naturalization process, becoming a “naturalized” citizen, he would not qualify for the office of president.

He claims to have been born in Hawaii, using “anchor baby” laws to support the notion that he qualifies. But even “anchor babies” are NOT “natural born citizens” for the reasons stated in the Law of Nations, at the foundation of Article II – Section I of our Constitution. They are “native-born,” thus the reason for Juan’s use of this term.

There is also NO honest debate over what the term “natural-born citizen” used by the original “birthers,” our Founding Fathers, meant, and even the US Senate was able to properly interpret the Law of Nations definition based upon Natural Law, regarding Senator John McCain last year.

But no! – Americans furious that a foreign global leader is sitting in their White House shoving anti-American policies down taxpayer throats for the benefit of leftist political power around the world, looks like a simple case of “racism” to Juan and Jimmy Carter. AMAZING!

“They make this argument even when all Hawaiian documents, officials and news stories of his birth conclusively prove he is an American.” - Williams

I honestly expect better than this. THREE COLB’s (which anyone from anywhere in the world can purchase in Hawaii) have been used as “proof” that Obama is a “natural born citizen.” NO other evidence has been offered and Obama has spent in excess of $1.5 million in legal fees to make certain that NO other evidence is ever seen. Thanks to taxpayers, he has the most powerful legal defense team in the world at his command in this effort, the Department of Justice.


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KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; dertifigate; imom; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma
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To: El Gato

OK then, find me someone with the authority to call BHO out on this issue. My contention is no one that I am aware of has the cojones to do this. Look what happened to Cong. Joe Wilson simply for telling the truth that BHO is a liar.


41 posted on 09/23/2009 5:58:55 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Welcome2thejungle
OK then, find me someone with the authority to call BHO out on this issue. My contention is no one that I am aware of has the cojones to do this.

While you may still be proved correct, there are several ongoing court cases on the subject.

The one that is most immediate is "Barret et. al. vs Obama et. al., in the US District Court for the Central District of California, Judge David Carter. (USMC ret, medical for wounds received at Khe Sanh, Republic of Vietnam). DoJ (representing Obama et. al.) has a motion to dismiss pending, due to be ruled on Oct. 5. Plaintiffs have already turned in their responses (two different lawyers representing different parts of the et. al.) DoJ's response to that is due next Monday. Trial is currently set for January, and if the motion to dismiss is not granted, full discovery will start shortly after Oct. 5.

42 posted on 09/23/2009 8:44:20 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

It would be nice to see a federal judge with the guts to pursue this matter but I am not holding my breath on this or investing any emotional capital on it. Right now, unfortunately, B-HOE is holding ALL of the cards: He is the POTUS, he is CINC of the armed forces, he appoints all federal judges, his party has overwhelming majorities in Congress. Our best chances in slowing down his radical agenda remains taking back the Congress in next year’s midterm elections. And btw, I happen to think it will take far more than a single federal judge in CA to remove the POTUS. I think it would take the SCOTUS to rule that B-HOE is ineligible.


43 posted on 09/23/2009 8:53:56 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: El Gato

Oh I forgot to mention another card B-HOE holds in his hand is the slavish devotion of the MSM which routinely dismisses those of us who question the messiah’s background and qualifications as kooks on the fringe.


44 posted on 09/23/2009 8:58:24 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Welcome2thejungle
I happen to think it will take far more than a single federal judge in CA to remove the POTUS. I think it would take the SCOTUS to rule that B-HOE is ineligible.

While that's likely true, although if "discovery produces proof that he is not native born, which means he can't be natural born, the pressure will run the other way, that is for him to leave *before* the Supreme Court does it's thang. At that point he would not be able to *count* on the military, who at best (for him) would just sit things out. He appoints judges, but can't remove those already seated, although Congress could.

45 posted on 09/23/2009 9:06:51 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Who with any authority is going to challenge BHO
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We the people have the authority.

2 million people showed up in Washington, D.C., on 9/12. If they wanted they could peacefully shut down the city any time they wanted.


46 posted on 09/23/2009 9:13:49 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

Sure wish they would!


47 posted on 09/23/2009 9:17:45 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Welcome2thejungle : Since 2008-11-07 ( Just when Berg’s case was before the Supreme Court)


48 posted on 09/23/2009 9:19:47 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

And? I have been a movement conservative since RR first ran for president in 1976.


49 posted on 09/23/2009 9:22:47 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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