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NAVY qua guinea pigs INFECTED WITH H1N1 Because of Vaccine
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Posted on 09/26/2009 3:39:32 PM PDT by The Conservative Yogini

The crew of a naval vessel was vaccinated with H1N1 vaccine in order to “see what happens”. Well, what happened was that the Captain and the Chief Petty Officer died. Worse than that, it has become clear (yet again) that the vaccine actually CAUSES swine flu.

If you choose to give either yourself or your kids a swine flu vaccine, you need your head examined.

Here is the testimony from Navy wives of the affected crew via the internet radio show A Marines Disquisition, with Drew Raines. http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1362067 :

Ignore at your own peril. After the testimony is the actual Navy document that orders the vaccination to take place.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegadflyblog.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bogus; flu; h1n1; navy; outbreak; rumour; snopes; swineflu; urbanlegend; ussboxer; vaccine
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1 posted on 09/26/2009 3:39:34 PM PDT by The Conservative Yogini
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To: The Conservative Yogini

I do believe that it is time.


2 posted on 09/26/2009 3:42:09 PM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Where can we find details of this story? Name of the ship and all that?


3 posted on 09/26/2009 3:42:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: The Conservative Yogini

A Lt. Commander is CAPTAIN of a 347 man crew? I thought he’d be at least a COMMANDER to be CAPTAIN of a vessel that big....


4 posted on 09/26/2009 3:43:00 PM PDT by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history will repeat, repeat and repeat.)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

FOX reported that the nasal mist actually has the live virus in it. The vaccine doesn’t, so the doctor on the show said...


5 posted on 09/26/2009 3:43:23 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: The Conservative Yogini

I have been hearing this rumor for days now. Are we sure they were vaccinated?


6 posted on 09/26/2009 3:43:36 PM PDT by Grunthor (Gun toting, Bible thumping Flag waver. According to the left, I am a racist.)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

bttt


7 posted on 09/26/2009 3:44:14 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Is this legit?


8 posted on 09/26/2009 3:45:59 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Does anyone have family or friends that can verify this story? I wouldn’t put it past them, since they’ve got a history of experimenting on soldiers in the past, but I’d like some solid evidence.


9 posted on 09/26/2009 3:47:35 PM PDT by TheLurkerX (If you want renewable energy, I'm sure the founding fathers are spinning in their graves.)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Reeks of Coast-to-Coast: George Noory.


10 posted on 09/26/2009 3:47:58 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: wastedyears

I have a bridge and some swamp land that may be of interest to you. Please send me your bank account number, you credit card numbers, and a general power of attorney. You are about to be rich.


11 posted on 09/26/2009 3:55:22 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

I couldn’t find the video on the website the link took me to. Soungs like somebody is just trying to lead us to the wierd website.


12 posted on 09/26/2009 4:03:11 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan

I mean the Clipser link for the wives testimony sent me to a website where I could not find any testimony.


13 posted on 09/26/2009 4:04:50 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan

Imagine my surprise.


14 posted on 09/26/2009 4:05:26 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Freddd
FOX reported that the nasal mist actually has the live virus in it. The vaccine doesn’t, so the doctor on the show said...

I believe the official story is that the nasal version of the vaccine has live, attenuated vaccine. But the injected vaccine carries only dead virus. The official story on this is quite consistent in all stories I have seen.

But some folks worry that it is not quite the case. Probably tinfoil hat stuff, but these days, one never really knows ...

15 posted on 09/26/2009 4:14:47 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: BILL_C

The size of the crew would indicate a guided missile destroyer (DDG.) But I would suspect those are captained by full CMDR. A frigate (FFG) would have a LT. CMDR in command but carries a crew of about 180.


16 posted on 09/26/2009 4:15:02 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Grunthor

Where is the proof of this story?

All I read are unsourced rumors.


17 posted on 09/26/2009 4:15:52 PM PDT by Palladin (ACORN is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


18 posted on 09/26/2009 4:19:45 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: The Conservative Yogini
Here's a link disputing the story:

http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1486&start=26

19 posted on 09/26/2009 4:19:52 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Jump You F**kers!)
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To: The Conservative Yogini
This story has been referenced here on several threads. I listened to the “reporters” and they sounded like a couple of goobers making it up as the went.

They stated that the captain of a ship with over 300 persons was a Lt. Commander, which I find strange. I would think a ship of that size would have a Commander as skipper.

They claim that the info is coming from the wives but state the wives won't give the name of the ship for fear prosecution. How do you charge a spouse under the UCMJ? The name of the ship you serve is not classified, I don't see anyway to keep them from sharing such basic information.

You can't get the flu from the injection and it would be extremely unlikely to have such a high attack rate from the nasal spray vaccination. The same vaccine has been publicly tested on medical personnel on the east coast without problem.

Google give multiple hit but all of them source the same to guys and their web based radio show.

Without further information, I would tend to think this is an urban legend.

20 posted on 09/26/2009 4:20:54 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: GeronL
I found this from CBS:

Navy Ships Under Swine Flu Quarantine

Nearly 70 Sailors, Marines Contracted Virus

* Navy officials say they are now quarantining an undetermined number of crew members with flulike symptoms on four ships that are part of the USS Boxer Amphibious Ready Group, which arrived in Hawaii on Friday. The ships are docked at or near Pearl Harbor.

A group of Navy ships is under quarantine after several dozen sailors and Marines on board tested positive for swine flu.

Health officials say at least 69 people had been confirmed with the virus, and all of them have since recovered.

Navy officials say they are now quarantining an undetermined number of crew members with flulike symptoms on four ships that are part of the USS Boxer Amphibious Ready Group, which arrived in Hawaii on Friday. The ships are docked at or near Pearl Harbor.

Thousands of sailors and Marines from the ships are currently on leave in Hawaii, but Cmdr. Dora Lockwood says no one with flulike symptoms has been allowed to go on shore.

A spokeswoman for the state Health Department says it has been notified of the outbreak.

21 posted on 09/26/2009 4:21:19 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Freddd

HHS Awards MedImmune Contract to Manufacture Live Attenuated Nasal Spray Vaccine for H1N1
06/02/2009

MedImmune announces that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has awarded the company a contract to manufacture monovalent (single-strain) live attenuated influenza vaccine for novel influenza A (H1N1) to vaccinate priority populations identified by HHS in the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza. An initial order of $90 million of vaccine has been placed, with the potential for additional orders. This project has been funded in whole or in part with the Federal funds from HHS/ASPR/BARDA, under Contract No. HHSO100200900002I.

MedImmune scientists have identified several promising vaccine candidates against the novel influenza A (H1N1) strain, and are currently evaluating their growth properties and antigenicity (i.e., their ability to stimulate antibodies) for mass production as part of the vaccine manufacturing process.

“MedImmune is pleased to be able to contribute our scientific expertise in influenza vaccine development and manufacturing to help combat this unpredictable public health threat,” said Ben Machielse, executive vice president of operations at MedImmune. “We are confident that our vaccine technology has several attributes that may be useful in protecting people with limited exposure to influenza against the novel influenza A (H1N1) strain.”

MedImmune’s live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV) technology may be particularly well-suited for vaccinating against emerging influenza strains. LAIV is different from the injectable influenza vaccine in that it is a gentle mist sprayed into the nose, where the influenza virus usually enters the body. It contains live vaccine virus strains that are weakened so as not to cause the flu, but prompt the body to mount an immune response after the first dose. Because it is live and stimulates a broad range of immune responses, LAIV may offer some cross-protection against circulating flu strains that are “drifted” – meaning they are very closely-related but not perfectly matched to the flu strains in the vaccine. As a needle-free nasal spray, LAIV is well suited to facilitate mass vaccination, and has been widely used for school-based vaccinations and to help protect active-duty military personnel.
http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/hotnews/medimmune-live-attenuated-h1n1-vaccine.html

AstraZeneca’s MedImmune to deliver additional H1N1 vaccines in USA
Tue. September 22, 2009; Posted: 09:23 AM

Dublin, Sep 22, 2009 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) — MEDI | Quote | Chart | News | PowerRating — 22 September 2009 - US firm MedImmune Inc, a subsidiary of Anglo-Swedish pharma major AstraZeneca (LON:AZN) (NYSE:AZN) said yesterday it had received an order for another 29 million doses of its nasal spray vaccine for 2009 H1N1 influenza virus.

The deal was placed by the US Department of Health and Human Services
(HHS).

In total, HHS has ordered more than 40 million doses of MedImmune’s live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV), worth a combined USD453m. Earlier orders for around 13 million doses were awarded in May and July.

The vaccine was approved by the US Food and Drug Administration
(FDA) on 15 September 2009 and is indicated for the active immunisation of persons aged from two to 49 years against influenza caused by pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus, or swine flu.

MedImmune started to develop LAIV for this strain of H1N1 in late April, when the company received the novel virus from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/2540206/


22 posted on 09/26/2009 4:30:50 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: buccaneer81
USS Boxer:
23 posted on 09/26/2009 4:32:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: buccaneer81

There are stories of Navy quaranteens going back to the spring occuring in various portions of the globe.

The story I’m not buying is that there was a ship where everying contracted the flu from the vaccine.


24 posted on 09/26/2009 4:33:33 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: buccaneer81

USS Boxer is a helo carrier


25 posted on 09/26/2009 4:33:50 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
flulike symptoms on four ships that are part of the USS Boxer Amphibious Ready Group,

What types of vessels are escorts for helo carriers? One would think that a DDG or two might be in the mix.

26 posted on 09/26/2009 4:37:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

It’s odd the name of the ship was not in the article.


27 posted on 09/26/2009 4:38:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Thud

fyi


28 posted on 09/26/2009 4:39:44 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: The Conservative Yogini

ACTUALLY . . .

I’d think they needed something else done with their head instead of merely examined . . .

######################

It would be . . . something . . .

IF

there were a Bastille to storm.

However, the most guilty globalist puppet masters are mostly quite hidden.

It may well take God to ferret them out and deal with them.

. . . something I’m CERTAIN

HE HAS SCHEDULED.


29 posted on 09/26/2009 4:40:00 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Palladin

Where is the proof of this story?

All I read are unsourced rumors.


While it isd not unbelievable, I too would like corroberation(sp?)


30 posted on 09/26/2009 4:40:37 PM PDT by Grunthor (Gun toting, Bible thumping Flag waver. According to the left, I am a racist.)
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To: buccaneer81

I would expect a couple of Destroyers


31 posted on 09/26/2009 4:41:13 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: FReepaholic

Thanks for the debunking website. It appears quite detailed.


32 posted on 09/26/2009 4:41:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: The Conservative Yogini; Alamo-Girl; airborne; Amityschild; AngieGal; aragorn; auggy; ...

END TIMES, DREAMS, VISIONS, PROPHECY PING LIST: 2ND LEVEL PING.


33 posted on 09/26/2009 4:42:12 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: buccaneer81
Apparently the BOXER has The Boxer Amphibious Ready Group includes USS Cleveland (LPD 7), USS Harpers Ferry (LSD 49) and Assault Craft Unit 5

It apparently is an add-on to an Aircraft Battle Group if necessary.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/docs/981109-vinson.htm

34 posted on 09/26/2009 4:44:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

lol

thats from 10 years ago


35 posted on 09/26/2009 4:46:00 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Palladin

The proof will be when they decide only those over 65 can receive the vaccine. (Ouch. That tinfoil is rubbing against my hearing aid.)


36 posted on 09/26/2009 4:46:34 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Freddd

It looks very much like “they” they are now publicly and very carefully walking themselves back from the live/attenuated virus, leading me to believe this Navy story

http://www.google.com/search?q=Flu+Shot+More+Effective+Than+Nasal+Spray&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


37 posted on 09/26/2009 4:47:49 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: firebrand

Just Say No.


38 posted on 09/26/2009 4:55:45 PM PDT by Palladin (ACORN is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

They are not backing away from live attenuated virus vaccine, quite the opposite.

The live vaccine has to live long enough to elicit a strong immune reaction to the selected viruses. If you already have partial immunity because you have been infected or immunized against a similar flu virus, you do may not carry the vaccine virus long enough to develop a full immunity to the new virus.

For non pandemic viruses, adults have enough similar antibodies that the live vaccine provides less protection than a killed vaccine. On the other hand for non pandemic viruses, children’s immune systems to not have experience with similar viruses so the live virus lives long enough to develop a strong reaction.

Studies with the live attenuated vaccine for this pandemic virus are demonstrating that adults are mounting as strong an immune reaction as children.


39 posted on 09/26/2009 6:14:18 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: The Conservative Yogini

I heard a similar story referencing San Diego


40 posted on 09/26/2009 7:56:49 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Quix
Thanks for the ping here Quix.

Whether this story is true or not, the fact that we must ask shows the despicable state of trust between TPTB and we peasants.

I for one have no doubt this story *could* be true. Does anyone with half a brain think this government is incapable, or even unwilling, to sacrifice servicemen and women, old people, and infants on Moloch's altar?

They do it every day already.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

41 posted on 09/27/2009 6:43:51 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian

INDEED,

SERFS AND SLAVES HAVE LONG BEEN JUST CATTLE OR EVEN . . . RODENTS . . . TO THE PTB.

LITERALLY.

The history of experimentation in horrendous ways is startlingly extensive.

Guess I don’t doubt this story at all. Just has flavors of how they’d do it.

And, they have an interest in neutralizing major chunks of our military.


42 posted on 09/27/2009 8:17:28 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: buccaneer81

We should have enough Navy folks amongst FREEPERS

to track this down through our personal networks.

I hope FREEPERS are at work on it.


43 posted on 09/27/2009 8:19:07 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Palladin

In a heavily controlled . . . ‘culture’ . . .

that’s likely all one will ever run onto—particularly early on . . . and possibly ever . . . unless persoal networks can verify one way or the other diverse sources affirming the same thing.

The fact that rumors are the only source at present

does

NOT

give me ANY comfort that it’s unlikely or untrue.


44 posted on 09/27/2009 8:20:44 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: FReepaholic

That’s pretty convincing.

Thanks for the link.

Hope that’s the total story. Sounds good.


45 posted on 09/27/2009 8:22:23 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I know what you mean.

Seems like swine flu is raging in the South right now, esp. among the school kids. It’s probably better to let them get the flu rather than take the shots.


46 posted on 09/27/2009 11:37:46 AM PDT by Palladin (ACORN is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Palladin

evidently.

One needs to be prayerful in all such cases and follow hard after THE LORD AND HIM ONLY, imho.


47 posted on 09/27/2009 3:11:34 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Freddd; The Conservative Yogini; El Gato; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; ...
From the horse's mouth:

What makes up the Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent vaccines?

The Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccines are manufactured using the same approved processes used to produce the seasonal influenza vaccines. Ingredients used during the manufacture of influenza vaccines include substances to help prevent bacterial contamination, to inactivate or “kill” the viruses, and stabilizers to prevent the vaccine from changing. Vaccines that are packaged in multi-dose vials use a preservative to prevent contamination. The Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent vaccines are made from a single influenza virus strain that is an A/California/7/09-like virus. For the injectible vaccines, or shots, the virus is inactivated, using the same processes the manufacturers use for seasonal influenza vaccines. The vaccine administered via nasal spray contains a live, attenuated virus.

People who have a severe (life-threatening) allergy to chicken eggs, or to any other substance in the vaccine, should not be vaccinated.

One of my rare, everyone pings

48 posted on 09/27/2009 7:30:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Bookmark


49 posted on 09/27/2009 7:36:13 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: Man50D
It’s odd the name of the ship was not in the article.

Not really - keeps anyone from verifying/refuting this story. Without the name, I'm writing it off as BS.

50 posted on 09/27/2009 7:38:21 PM PDT by nina0113
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