Posted on 10/04/2009 7:43:36 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
If this was an open and shut case some credible reporter could answer all these questions and close this down in a heartbeat. So, why isn't this happening when blogs like this keep finding facts which raise suspicion? It does not make you a "birther" to want to know why Obama won't release his history of records like every other POTUS in history...And a friggin B.S. biography doesn't cut it especially when every person you are know to associate with is basically an anti-American!
At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution,
the definition of natural born citizen, combined both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
Emmerich De Vattel, (1714-1767,) Law of Nations, § 212. Of the citizens and natives, 1758
Doesn’t that require someone that can/will actually demand this from the president? Who will that be?
He’s claiming it alright.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president_obama/
Quote
“With a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, President Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961”
Unquote
Just one question/observation:
i read the blog, looked at the pictures. Obama’s certificate that said “filed” was from 1961. The other examples with the “accepted” wording were from 1977 and 1994. Do we know for sure Hawaii didn’t change the terminology on the certificates during that time?
As far as I know the COLB’s were both printed recently, and I don’t think the Policy has changed since this style COLB was introduced, but I may be wrong.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
bump for later
You must not be a college student or the “Hi Mom” would be followed by “please send money”. ;)
Nope the the Hi Mom would be followed by I miss you Sorry Alzheimer’s took you from us. I wish I could have done more
for you
We had a dear friend who had Alzheimers, a dreadful illness. I am sorry about your mother.
ping - have you seen this?
We all noted that the day it was made public.
Are there certifications from 1961 that say “accepted”?
Could Obama have a certification that is identical to this one that DOES say accepted, but he posted the wrong one (or will say he did)?
What was the Gov of Hawaii saying that she verified as legit, that exact certification on factcheck.org?
Could Obama have a certification that is identical to this one that DOES say accepted, but he posted the wrong one (or will say he did)?
***Ruh Roh
I don’t think they had computer generated COLB’s in 1961. You’d have to read the Gov of Hawaii Statement, to see the exact words. I think they have been referring to documentation on file, not on the record, or accepted. Anyway, all those who refer to the factcheck.org, and the like for confirmation of Obamas place of birth via the current COLB are deluding themselves.
JLY 2009 I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.
LOL. I see someone was absent from school the day the teacher covered synonyms.
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