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Obamas Certificate of Live Birth data wasn't "Accepted" it was only "Filed".
Myself | October 4th 2009 | plenipotentiary

Posted on 10/04/2009 7:43:36 AM PDT by plenipotentiary

Obamas Certificate of Live Birth says:

Date filed by Registrar August 8th 1961

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_6.jpg

A normal Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth says: "Date Accepted by State Registrar"

"http://femacampr.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/obama_not_valid.jpg


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; fraud; obama
Obamas original information was filed on August 8th 1961, but was never accepted by Hawaii, otherwise the COLB would have said "Date Accepted by State Registrar"

If this is Obama's only claimed Birth Certificate, it would appear he never had a valid one.

If the Dunhams were not able to satisfy the State as to his birth there in 1961, it makes more likely that Obama was born elsewhere.

Where are the witnesses, the photos of proud Mum and Baby with Hospital in the background, where are the leaving Hospital Photos?

1 posted on 10/04/2009 7:43:37 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: plenipotentiary

Sorry, but this is old news. If you do a search, there’s a new blogger discussing possible implications of this who’s posted a link in the past 24 hours.


2 posted on 10/04/2009 7:44:45 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: plenipotentiary

Who was the attending physician?
Wheres the pics of Stanley with a newborn?


3 posted on 10/04/2009 7:47:36 AM PDT by omega4179 (pos approval rating -11)
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To: dinodino

Link where it says the above please.


4 posted on 10/04/2009 7:49:54 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary

MissTickly’s recent post about filing vs. recording.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2354447/posts


5 posted on 10/04/2009 7:50:55 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: dinodino; plenipotentiary

Thread cop


6 posted on 10/04/2009 7:51:08 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: plenipotentiary

Here is MissTickly’s blog entry.

http://misstickly.wordpress.com/

Spread it far and wide.


7 posted on 10/04/2009 7:52:46 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

Thermo-nuclear bump


8 posted on 10/04/2009 7:55:42 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: plenipotentiary
Excellent information - kudos! Big difference between FILED & ACCEPTED.

Is the first jpg of obozo's "birth certificate" the same one he posted on his website during campaign?

9 posted on 10/04/2009 7:57:03 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: plenipotentiary

Here you go:

http://misstickly.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/our-worst-nightmare-confirmed/


10 posted on 10/04/2009 7:57:07 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Smokeyblue

OK. I see: “THE KEY: ‘FILED by Local Registrar’ vs. ‘ACCEPTED by State Registrar’” Well done Miss Tickly. Hope this will be used to defeat anyone who says the COLB is proof of Birth details. Even Hawaii have never officially accepted it. Where is the Judiciary and Politicians in all this?


11 posted on 10/04/2009 7:57:27 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary

In a nutshell, it looks like the information on Obama’s COLB is information he filled out in an application for a birth certificate.

The COLB just spits out the info that Obama FILED in his application. The state of Hawaii just says here is he application information, we haven’t RECORDED it as true. It’s pending review.


12 posted on 10/04/2009 7:57:27 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: plenipotentiary
"Where are the witnesses, the photos of proud Mum and Baby with Hospital in the background, where are the leaving Hospital Photos?"

I happened to have visited Hope AK, Johnson City TX, and Honolulu HI, last winter. The two former cities proudly proclaimed homes, hospitals, schools, and neighborhoods inhabited by their proud sons. Honolulu? Deathly silence.

13 posted on 10/04/2009 7:59:28 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: newfreep

The link is to factcheck.org so I guess it’s the Obama COLB they are relying on now.


14 posted on 10/04/2009 7:59:50 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary

Maybe, but how do you figure that the information will change anything?

Maybe and interesting tidbit but........What?


15 posted on 10/04/2009 8:03:09 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: plenipotentiary

I’m glad there are people staying on top of this.


16 posted on 10/04/2009 8:03:19 AM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: WHBates

The thing is that this shows Hawaii never officially accepted that Obama was born there. He has to prove birth in the USA as part of the qualification to be President. So that makes him a Usurper.


17 posted on 10/04/2009 8:05:39 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: WHBates

They are passing his COLB off as reliable legal information when in reality it only reflects what Obama, himself filled out in an application.

The state of Hawaii has not verified that it is true. They make of point of saying the information they have looked at is FILED INFORMATION not RECORDED INFORMATION.

The state of Hawaii stands behind RECORDED INFORMATION. FILED INFORMATION is provided by the applicant and can’t be verified as true without proper documentation.


18 posted on 10/04/2009 8:08:41 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: plenipotentiary
The thing is that this shows Hawaii never officially accepted that Obama was born there.

He has to prove birth in the USA as part of the qualification to be President.

So that makes him a Usurper"

And everything he signed is null and void..

19 posted on 10/04/2009 8:11:00 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: spokeshave

Zero = null and void


20 posted on 10/04/2009 8:12:19 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: plenipotentiary
It's a matter of questions being answered which are of legitimate concern to citizens of this country. Whether or not you are a conspirator still does not negate the facts there is no evidence being produced to answer these questions no matter how trivial the MSM might portend them to be.

If this was an open and shut case some credible reporter could answer all these questions and close this down in a heartbeat. So, why isn't this happening when blogs like this keep finding facts which raise suspicion? It does not make you a "birther" to want to know why Obama won't release his history of records like every other POTUS in history...And a friggin B.S. biography doesn't cut it especially when every person you are know to associate with is basically an anti-American!

21 posted on 10/04/2009 8:26:09 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: plenipotentiary
If as Comrade Obama Jr claims his dad was Barak Hussein Obama Sr, of Kenya,
than it's not possible for Junior to be a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.

At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution,
the definition of natural born citizen, combined both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Emmerich De Vattel, (1714-1767,) Law of Nations, § 212. Of the citizens and natives, 1758

22 posted on 10/04/2009 8:43:48 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: plenipotentiary

Doesn’t that require someone that can/will actually demand this from the president? Who will that be?


23 posted on 10/04/2009 8:46:58 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: ASA Vet

He’s claiming it alright.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president_obama/

Quote

“With a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, President Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961”

Unquote


24 posted on 10/04/2009 9:09:51 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: plenipotentiary

Just one question/observation:

i read the blog, looked at the pictures. Obama’s certificate that said “filed” was from 1961. The other examples with the “accepted” wording were from 1977 and 1994. Do we know for sure Hawaii didn’t change the terminology on the certificates during that time?


25 posted on 10/04/2009 10:01:14 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: smalltownslick

As far as I know the COLB’s were both printed recently, and I don’t think the Policy has changed since this style COLB was introduced, but I may be wrong.


26 posted on 10/04/2009 10:29:38 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


27 posted on 10/04/2009 10:47:36 AM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: plenipotentiary

bump for later


28 posted on 10/04/2009 12:02:03 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: plenipotentiary
Well, I get that but there doesn't seem to be anyone in a position to do anything about it doing anything. In fact it appears that there is no legal authority with responsibility over the matter. Pretty much a mess. You can bet you a** that if he were a republican that wouldn't be the case.
29 posted on 10/04/2009 12:42:40 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: al baby

You must not be a college student or the “Hi Mom” would be followed by “please send money”. ;)


30 posted on 10/04/2009 3:16:25 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: kalee

Nope the the Hi Mom would be followed by I miss you Sorry Alzheimer’s took you from us. I wish I could have done more
for you


31 posted on 10/04/2009 3:29:21 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: plenipotentiary

32 posted on 10/04/2009 4:09:06 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: al baby

We had a dear friend who had Alzheimers, a dreadful illness. I am sorry about your mother.


33 posted on 10/04/2009 4:33:19 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: pissant

ping - have you seen this?


34 posted on 10/04/2009 9:46:35 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

We all noted that the day it was made public.


35 posted on 10/04/2009 9:47:27 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: plenipotentiary

Are there certifications from 1961 that say “accepted”?

Could Obama have a certification that is identical to this one that DOES say accepted, but he posted the wrong one (or will say he did)?

What was the Gov of Hawaii saying that she verified as legit, that exact certification on factcheck.org?


36 posted on 10/04/2009 10:03:17 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Could Obama have a certification that is identical to this one that DOES say accepted, but he posted the wrong one (or will say he did)?
***Ruh Roh


37 posted on 10/05/2009 12:48:17 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t think they had computer generated COLB’s in 1961. You’d have to read the Gov of Hawaii Statement, to see the exact words. I think they have been referring to documentation on file, not on the record, or accepted. Anyway, all those who refer to the factcheck.org, and the like for confirmation of Obamas place of birth via the current COLB are deluding themselves.


38 posted on 10/05/2009 4:15:48 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: Yaelle
OCT 2008 "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

JLY 2009 “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

39 posted on 10/05/2009 4:43:22 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: plenipotentiary
I think they have been referring to documentation on file, not on the record, or accepted.

LOL. I see someone was absent from school the day the teacher covered synonyms.

40 posted on 10/05/2009 5:53:38 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Smokeyblue

They are passing his COLB off as reliable legal information when in reality it only reflects what Obama, himself filled out in an application.

Could this be the reason his father’s race is listed as “African” instead of “black”? I’ve always thought this didn’t seem quite right for 1961.


41 posted on 10/05/2009 7:45:40 PM PDT by crosstimbers
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