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Obama Birth Issue - STILL Questions: U.S. Federal District Court Justice heard arguments...
Gather News ^ | October 20, 2009

Posted on 10/20/2009 3:00:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: opentalk

“That’s not how it has worked with past presidents, they produced records when asked without a legal team.”

Which past presidents have produced such documentation?


61 posted on 10/20/2009 5:11:44 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: ml/nj
"I'm not so sure. If he isn't eligible to be President then he cannot be President so one could argue that he never stopped being President-elect. This is why we have courts and judges."

No, that ammendment contains very specific dates. It talks about the procedure for counting the electoral votes on Jan 3rd. It says the term begins and ends on Jan 20. Hard dates. All the things it talks about are things that happen on those dates.

62 posted on 10/20/2009 5:11:49 PM PDT by mlo
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To: El Sordo

Because that makes more sense than Judge Carter writing his own decision that respects the doctrine of standing as championed by Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia.


63 posted on 10/20/2009 5:13:37 PM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: trumandogz

I think john McCain produced grades, and medical records, Bush, military records , medical records and school records.


64 posted on 10/20/2009 5:16:17 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So this is where all the trolls went.


65 posted on 10/20/2009 5:20:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: opentalk

If the Hawaiian COLB didn’t convince the birthers, why would the “long form”? There would be something wrong with it and God Forbid there should be a misspelled word on it. Plus, right now it is the birthers who look kinda kooky.

parsy, who says birthers are Obama’s bestest friends


66 posted on 10/20/2009 5:24:20 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is always amazing to read the comments from Turkeys here who believe it is normal for an alleged sitting President to spend Millions of Dollarshiding his stinkin Birth Certificate! More importantly, the “MESSIAH” has hidden his entire and absolute PAST!!! EVERYTHING!!! GOD BLESS ORLY for having More Agates than all of these Turkeys put together!!


67 posted on 10/20/2009 5:24:56 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Red Steel
"So this is where all the trolls went."

There's a few of you.

68 posted on 10/20/2009 5:25:07 PM PDT by mlo
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To: TigersEye

AMEN!!! to the Nth Power!!!I allude to your list in a prior post!! Thank you muchly!!


69 posted on 10/20/2009 5:26:24 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
If he isn't eligible to be president then how can he be eligible to be president-elect?

Please don't bother me with your stupid questions. He became President-elect when he received a majority in the tabulation of the Electoral College vote. There is nothing that says that the electors must vote for someone who is eligible.

ML/NJ

70 posted on 10/20/2009 5:34:43 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ArtyFO

The question should be, what has Judge Carter been up to? It’s been almost two weeks since he started to consider either dismissal or approval to proceed with the California case. What is taking so long?


71 posted on 10/20/2009 5:35:45 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: Drew68

Birther Crusade. Sad but no cigar. Obama does not meet the criteria for Pres in my opinion even if born in Hawaii.


72 posted on 10/20/2009 5:38:30 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: mlo
It says the term begins and ends on Jan 20. Hard dates.

I guess you have difficulty with the English Language. I suggest you read the opening clause of Section 3 of the Amendment to yourself very slowly and out loud.

ML/NJ

73 posted on 10/20/2009 5:39:18 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: veracious

Not true. You just need some sort of credible case FIRST. If Obama really is a Kenyan (and if he was the Clintonistas would have already unconvered it)then there should be some sort of credible proof of it. No on should be sued on suspicions alone. It is not the American way.

One thing that irritated me about the Reagan years was the way the liberals trashed him. I would not expect him to be their favorite person, but according to them, he was out to destroy America and all kinds of foul stuff. He loved nuclear war and wanted to nuke everybody, etc. etc.etc. Bunch of crap and he ends up putting the nail in the Commie Coffin. Everybody breathes a sigh of relief. Now history may look back on him differently but I think he was a great president and I liked him. Felt safer knowing he was in White House.

Obama, I pretty much do not care for in a political sense. I don’t have the taste of puke in my mouth that I did with Clintons, but as a president, Obama is screwing up pretty big time. I don’t think he is a marxist out to destroy America or a Kenyan spy. He’s just a durn liberal and he will be corralled by his own party. America is strong enough to survive him. Plus, he may do some good if he reins in Wall Street which I doubt now because it looks like he has been bought and paid for by Goldman and JP.

So maybe, as a first step, you should concentrate on restoring the GOP to a viable party status by working on running off the durn libertarians so that the GOP will look like something besides a bunch of 1800’s type knuckle draggers who still haven’t come to grips with social security, minimum wage laws, and medicare, not to mention the complete lack of fiscal responsibility when it comes to regulating Wall Street.

parsy, who would prefer to see patriotic Americans do something constructive


74 posted on 10/20/2009 5:40:55 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: mlo

Tsk tsk mlo, that Obama COLB is all vaporware for his sycophants to point to as ‘authentic’.


75 posted on 10/20/2009 5:43:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: True Republican Patriot

We don’t even know he has spent millions of dollars for sure. The “proof” of that appears to be that his law firm received money. I am not sure we are privy to what they were paid for. Unlikely someone would “know” what goes on between a lawyer and his client.

parsy, who hasn’t seen proof of the “millions” yet


76 posted on 10/20/2009 5:47:09 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: opentalk
I do not seem to recall a President McCain and military and college records do not necessarily divulge NBC status.

Now, what other presidents have been asked to produce a BC?

77 posted on 10/20/2009 5:47:12 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: NCC-1701

Judge Carter is working on his ruling so that it will pass scrutiny. He realizes that it is an important ruling. He is taking his time to say the right words because it will have to go before a review where it will be picked apart. I think he realizes what a bomb this Obama is and what he is doing to this country. I think Obama is worried about the ruling. Other lawyers including Donofrio are hanging in there on the certificate case. The Carter ruling could blow this administration apart. I’d hate to be in Obama’s shoes because everything’s coming apart for him.


78 posted on 10/20/2009 5:52:25 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: mlo

At they are *asking* for voluntary contributions. The Obama defense team gets their funds from the taxpayers, or borrow them from the Chinese.


79 posted on 10/20/2009 5:53:46 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: trumandogz
Raising coin to pay that $20,000.00 fine.

Wrong case, wrong attorney.

But thank you for playing.

80 posted on 10/20/2009 5:54:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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