[suijuris]

Well, we have seen the birth certificate.

Oh really. Do you mean the Certification of Live Birth, aka long form, from the hospital where he was hatched? If so, please direct me to it because I have not seen it.

[mlo]

I mean the official document that Hawaii issues when one requests their birth certificate. As I said, birthers don’t accept it.

[El Gato]

. Do you mean the Certification of Live Birth, aka long form, from the hospital where he was hatched?

The Certification is the short or abstract form, the Certificate is the long form/original/hospital filed (usually) version.