Ain't No Fanatic Like a Religious Fanatic

Burkhart's Blog ^ | 10.22.09 | Alan Burkhart

[neverhome]

People can always find an excuse for killing each other. It’s human nature. But I find it doubly disturbing when someone feels wanton murder is somehow an act of righteousness. Faleh Hassan Almaleki and Yasser Said stand accused of attacking their daughters. The fact that as of this writing, both are still on the run pretty much cinches their guilt.

Almaleki’s daughter, Noor Faleh Almaleki, is alive but suffered life-threatening injuries when her loving father ran her down with his car. Said’s two daughters were shot a total of eleven times in his taxi cab.

[neverhome]

Could someone please explain to me the "honor" in killing one's daughter?

[Allegra]

Sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick.

[Alex Murphy]

Could someone please explain to me the "honor" in killing one's daughter?

Can someone explain why it's "Religious Fanatic" and not "Islamic Fanatic"? I haven't read any news headlines saying "Presbyterian man cuts off head of wife for wearing skirt above the ankles" in at least a year!

[Secret Agent Man]

They believe their daughter’s actions are dishonorable and that they also bring dishonor on the father (he lets them do the things that are dishonorable). If he does nothing he is dishonored and ridiculed by other men, he loses standing in the Islamic community for not being in charge of his family. He has to do something to get his honor back intact. And of course, like eveything in that culture, it means it involves punishment and violence.

[pallis]

Allah is Satan, and the pagan trappings of Islam are what they are. I pity the children who suffer Islamic fanaticism, just like I pity the children who suffer the fanaticism of atheistic political and social philosophies. Children always suffer because of our ignorance.

[neverhome]

"Allah is Satan, and the pagan trappings of Islam are what they are..."

"Pagan" is a fairly broad term and not specifically related to Satanism. Many religions we regard as "pagan" are actually quite docile and peaceful. Satanism of course, is a whole 'nuther can of worms ("wyrms" for you pagans out there). ;-)

[neverhome]

'Can someone explain why it's "Religious Fanatic" and not "Islamic Fanatic"?'

I knew this was gonna happen. I used the term "Religious Fanatic" because:
a. Muslims are not the only zealots in the world
b. Anyone who divorces himself from humanity in the name of religion is rightfully considered a fanatic.

Consider the nut jobs at Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas, and the disaster in Waco, TX during the Clinton years.

While these idiots certainly do not represent mainstream Christianity, neither are they Muslim. But they are religious fanatics.

And I never met a Presbyterian I didn't like.

[El Cid]

"Pagan" is a fairly broad term and not specifically related to Satanism...

I'd counter that if its taking your eyes off of Jesus ('The Way, The Truth, and The Life - and the Only Way to The Father'), satan is behind it...
Be it paganism, atheism, Gaiaism, islam, or whatever ism ... satan is behind it.

"...And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil"....

[ExGeeEye]

Yhym!

Yt's Nyt Jyst y Pygyns thyt lyk ty yse "Y" yn ynyppryprt spyllyngs.

Jyst sy y kny.

--synd,

Byrnyrd Skynyrd

(Lynyrd Skynyrd's Styp-Brythyr)

[TigersEye]

Ain't No Fanatic Like a Religious Fanatic

Well, except for Marxist/Progressive fanatics.

[Old Student]

“While these idiots certainly do not represent mainstream Christianity, neither are they Muslim. But they are religious fanatics.”

So are true-believer Communists. Their faith is in the infallibility of the state, rather than scripture, but it is every bit as much of a religion.

[pallis]

I have a slightly different take on it. As for Allah, I’m of the opinion he stems from Enlil, but apart from the normal transformations and manifestations common for pagan deities accommodating changing times and peoples , Allah got some rearranging from Mohammad, for the worse. If Enlil worship wasn’t satanic before Mohammad mucked with Allah, it was afterwards. The world probably would have been better off had Mohammad left Allah his wife to soften the rough edges of Islam.

[neverhome]

"Be it paganism, atheism, Gaiaism, islam, or whatever ism ... satan is behind it."

I don't subscribe to any particular doctrine, although I do believe in a Creator. The universe is far too complex to have been an accident.

As such, I cannot agree that any belief outside of Christianity is automatically rooted in evil. My friend and fellow Freeper, please do not be offended - but such a narrow view borders upon fanaticism. How is it that your religion is the only one that's right? How is it that all other religions are evil? There are many faiths that predate Christianity by centuries. Did everyone go to Hell before Christianity came along?

I'm not being rude here, nor am I trying to start a religious debate. But perhaps you should reconsider your stance. Does a loving God create a place like Hell and send good people there just because they don't believe a certain way? If so, is He really a loving God?

Does an all-powerful God really require all that praise and obeisance?

Just food for thought.

[Elsiejay]

The compound at Waco did not become a flaming disaster until the forces of government intervened heedlessly. I remain convinced that David Koresh could have been apprehended and arrested on the streets of Waco, just as Randy Weaver could have been apprehended and arrested on the streets of Naples, Idaho.

[El Cid]

Re: 13

No offense taken. Your viewpoint is not dissimilar to what I held 10 years ago.
I didn't know any better.
Do I have a 'narrow view'? Sure:

Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

'Did everyone go to hell before Christianity came along'?
Understand that the Bible is what it says it is - and you'll understand that the way of salvation has never changed.
It is as it has always been: its all there in Genesis 3: Knowing that the Redeemer would be the 'seed of the woman' (i.e., born of the virgin - Genesis 3:15). Knowing that only the blood sacrifice could cover our sin:
Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Knowing that God would come in the flesh, to redeem man (even though Eve got the specifics wrong, when she brought the firstborn into the world, and said, 'I have gotten me a man - the LORD' - she understood that the 'God-man' would be the one who would come to save mankind and 'bruise the head of the serpent')...
Nothing has changed: Abel understood that it was by belief in the blood sacrifice that he'd be saved (Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh).

And Job, even though he lived 2000 years before Christ - he was able to look through the haze of time and understand:

Job 13:15-16 Though HE [God] slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him. He also shall be my salvation: for an hypocrite shall not come before him.

Job knew that God would be his salvation.

Job 19:23-27 Oh that my words were now written! oh that they were printed in a book! That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever! For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

Job knew he would rise again and that he would see his Redeemer with his own eyes. That there would be a resurrection of the dead, and that the saved would need a Redeemer.

And the entirety of the Scriptures point towards mankind's hope: the only Way, the Truth, and the Life.

Belief in our Lord Jesus Christ. Understanding by HIS sacrifice, and HIS shed blood that we are redeemed by believing and trusting in HIM.

Nothing has changed from the beginning - belief and faith.
Yes, there are many religions. Many of them hold germs of truth - but satan has twisted many of the messages to lead people astray and far from the Saving Truth.

If you want the unvarnished Truth you will find it in only one place - the Bible. Read it. The Holy Spirit resides in its pages. You will find HIM when you seek HIM and search for HIM with all of your heart...

Yes, I bumbled around for most of my life with a view that scoffed at this simple fact - that God so loved the world that HE gave HIS only begotten that whosoever believeth HIM should not perish but have everlasting life. And that God has so loved us that HE has given us HIS Word...
But Praise the LORD HE has lifted my blindness. The Way may seem narrow - but it IS the only Way.

[neverhome]

"The compound at Waco did not become a flaming disaster until the forces of government intervened heedlessly. I remain convinced that David Koresh could have been apprehended and arrested on the streets of Waco, just as Randy Weaver could have been apprehended and arrested on the streets of Naples, Idaho."

Agreed on both. Janet Reno was an evil old so-and-so who wanted to show the world what a tough gal she was. Koresh could have been nabbed in Waco or Belmeade without any violence.