Posted on 11/07/2009 3:51:01 PM PST by Talkradio03
Nidal Hasan attended the Dar-al Hijrah mosque at the same time in 2001 as Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour, two of the September 11th highjackers..The mosque imam was a "spiritual advisor" to 3 of the terrorists... (Story)
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“We are at war and we need to win this war against the IslamOfascists.”
And how do you condut a war against Islamofascists when the Commander in Chief is one himself? Too many on Freerepublic have not caught up with current events. Obama is not wanting to win the war in Afghanistan and he does not mind if US soldiers die. So we no longer have a “war on terrorism.” We have a war on America and the military from the inside.
Also, all the hollaring and wailing about racism against Muslims, had the Bush administration pretending we are at war with “the religion of peace” and they treated all Americans as equal potential terrorists instead of focusing on Muslims. Why are the borders wide open for invasion in this so-called war on Islamic terrorism?
Political correctness is a suicide pact among the elite of both parties and in all our institutions and businesses. There is no war on terrorism. There is a war on us by our own elite.
Makes me think it was not a “bad mistake” rather it was treason. You don’t put a jihadist in a place with opportunity to kill the soldiers he is at war with unless you really don’t care about winning the war.
1. Radio silence from Drive-by press.
2. Oh, s***!!!!!!!
You are right of course, he could have done exactly the same thing in Afghanistan when he got there. Looks like the military tried to outsource the problem of having a spy on board. His fanatiscsism should have been exposed and dealt with immediately. But that would have meant dealing with muslims in the armed forces, wouldn’t it?
Having many relatives in this war and living in San Diego with the largest concentration of military, many of us here are more than caught up .
As one who has followed world affairs for several decades and discuss issues with my friends, Marine Major, Navy Capt. SEAL, etc.
Many on FR who are bleating on about Obama are now getting a clue what he is while I and others warned what would happen by splitting votes three ways or sitting home election day 2008.
By keeping up the pressure to win this war vs. those who want to pack it in and concern themselves with issues which will make no difference when the IslanOfascists take over.
The terrorists who flew into the pentagon lived 6 miles from me. They live as everyday people (sleepers) until given the word to strike.
Some on FR would rather go to war against Republicans (some I may not care for) rather than focus on Obama and taking the issues to him and exposing him.
This is why we continue to have the ongoing problems.
Scary post, scary that it is so true.
Your dedication to the Republican Party is clear. The Republican party is not currently the CIC. The Rinos want Obama to close GITMO and bring the jihadists captured during the war to the United States. So you and I don’t agree on the glory of the Rino party winning more Rino members. They are not Republicans to me.
Although my dad was an Officer in the Navy, I see this from what my older brother taught me about the Left in this country during the Viet Nam war. He fought in that war when I was little and he taught me and I have since read, that when you have a series of CIC’s that are more concerned with the well being of the enemy than they are with US soldiers, it doesn’t matter - the war is a waste of human life.
It never ends because the elite refuse to do what it takes to win it. It is very sad and frightening that we have arrived full circle. That is what we have now.
AS an adult during the Vietnam war, having ralatives and
tens of thousands here serving I don’t have to be told about it.
I know Vietnamese with college degrees who hid from the Cong when they were kids,
At the fall of Vietnam, over 100,000 in one lump were sent to San Diego, more later.
I sit 2 miles from the carrier, USS Midway now a museum which picked up the Americans and Vietnamese fleeing at the fall of Siagon.
You can spin your wheels till hell freezes over. you are boxed in.
Your third party Liberaltarians who want to close Gitmo, are anti war, who don’t think Iran and North Korea are a threat quote L Ron Paul are Obama’s best friend, thus your fight against the Republicans.
I support Sarah Palin who believes in taking it to the enemy. Her son just returned from a year in Iraq.
This crap that all Republicans are just the same as democrats is a spin to throw off the fact that Liberaltarials such as L Ron Paul, and his wingNuts
share more views with Obama than anyone.
San Diego has 5 Congressmen, 3 are great Conservative Republicans, Marine Col. Duncan D. Hunter, Darrel Issa who
is exposing ACORN and others before some blowhards on TV even knew what ACORN was also Bryan Bilbray who also deals with the border issues.
Don’t tell me about the border, I live 20 miles north of the largest and busiest port of entry in the world, San Diego - Tijuana
“you can spin your wheels till hell freezes over. you are boxed in.”
Oh, I see, I am dealing with the absolute, all knowing war expert in the world from a carefully positioned perch in San Diego and who sits just 2 miles from the carrier, USS Midway, the museum. I bow down to your absolute awesomeness and I will be forever ashamed of myself for engaging in discussion with such a superior human being who knows it all. I had no idea I was in the Libertarian Party until you finally told me the truth.
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SoCalPol
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SoCalPol, I’d suggest you go back and read up on our Founders, and just how they felt about maintaining standing armies, and foreign entanglements.
The world is a much more complicated place now, and there are realities that require a certain U.S. presence in the world, that the Founders perhaps could not have pondered. That I acknowledge. But, there is nothing noble about being “pro-war.” I don’t think anybody is actually “pro-war,” in favor of war, any old war for war’s sake, outside of military contractors.
Now, being in favor of specific actions, including war, due to an identifiable cause with a desired outcome that is in the national interest, is another matter. I’m in favor of our efforts in Iraq, myself. That’s a war, or it was, until that cretin of a pretender was sworn into office.
As much as you apparently detest Ron Paul, also understand that he voted in favor of military action in Afghanistan. He was in favor of numerous potential responses to the 9/11 attacks and the Islamist terror threat in general. What he did not favor, was going to war in a manner that was proscribed by the Constitution. I understand and respect that, even though I disagree due to the likely end result his clearly correct understanding would have set into motion.
Your ranting about Paul, one of the very few in Washington, DC who actually views the Constitution as anything but toilet paper, on either side of the aisle, is actually more nutty than the nuttiest stereotype you can throw at Constiutional strict constructionists, many of whom you’d no doubt call “Liberaltarian.”
I, for one, am thankful to have Dr. Paul in the House Of Representatives. He has been a rare and effective voice for Constitutionalism there for decades. I’ve admired and respected him for as long as I’ve been politically aware, and if he were my Representative, I’d be thrilled to vote for him. Long may he serve our country in that capacity. We’re all the better for it.
He’ll never be President, though. If you were capable of separating the wheat from the chaff here, you’d realize that those erstwhile “supporters” of Paul, who have you in such high dudgeon, are the ones that are anti-war, anti- every war, justifiable or not. They’re the clueless, politically unaware fools who are deserving of your scorn, and not fellow conservatives who recognize legitimate Constituional limits on war, as to how it is declared and pursued. I say they’re politically unaware, because if they actually understood the man, that he’s opposed to virtually everything else they stand for, and opposed Iraq due to Constitutional concerns, they wouldn’t be “supporters.”
There will no doubt come a time, when a President and a Congress decide to pursue military action with which you profoundly disagree. Not all Democrats and not all “liberals” (what a misnomer) are opposed to using the military opportunistically. Look to the Clinton era for guidance, since you seem to have forgotten. Or, better yet, the Johnson era.
The only thing worse than a big government perma-hawk is a big government perma-dove, imho.
Flame away.
But let’s don’t “rush to judgment”......
Truly incredible!
I worked for Reagan when he first ran for Gov.
That takes care of the myth I am big Gov.
Read up on the early founders and those who built the country. Have for decades including my own relatives.
Over 200 of my 9th great grandparents came to New England and New Amsterdam (NYC) in the 1620s & 1630s.
My 6th great grandfather’s brother’s 2 daus. married signers to the Declaration of Independence
Have over 12 5th great grandfathers who served in the American Revolution. Thank goodness they were pro war and Noble.
I have several 3rd great grandfathers who served in the Union Army in the Civil War. Thank goodness they were pro war and Noble.
Relatives from WWI to in Afghanistan today.
I have relatives who came home in boxes, one who was in the Batan death march another who was a B-17 pilot with over 24 missions over Europe.
I grewup in a neighborhood with dozens of neighbors with numbers on their arm a few years out of the Nazi camps.
I saw Buchenwald when I was in East Germany in 1983, my great uncle in Patton’s 3rd Army helped liberate it.
Ron Paul is a cult figure. I have files of articles in his own words.
HE uses the Constitution the same way the Jehovah’s Witnesses use the Bible.
Using Paul’s analogy, we wouldn’t have fought Hitler because he wasn’t the one who bombed Pearl Harbor.
The many Paulite’s I have gone face to face with have the same talking point of the Code Pinkos I have gone face to face with.
Paul didn’t vote to condemn Ahmadinejad.
Paul like Rev. Wright believes 9/11 was blowback on America
Weapons today are different as is the way wars are fought.
Decades ago, it waould take the enemy hours, days, weeks to hit America.
Now it is minutes.
It is not pro war, it is survival
Paul can sit in his small town hicksville and
pontificate but it will be his turn to fight
or have his head seperated from his body.
Well, nice pedigree. You’re not alone in that regard, though. I could reel off a list that goes straight back to Jamestown and 1619, if I cared to do so, or Maryland in the 1630’s. Every one of my lines has been in NC since before the Revolution, and many fought in that war.
But, that’s not really material to the discussion, is it? Unless, that is, you actually want to talk genealogy, or the colonial era, in which case I’d likely enjoy the discussion.
So, you can lay that to rest for now.
Being in favor of every war, for whatever reason or no reason at all, does not necessarily follow having fought in a war, though, especially for those who actually are doing the fighting.
There are limits upon how war is declared and pursued, and that is not just prudent, it’s required under our Constitution, the very same Constitution that our military are sworn to uphold.
That is as it should be. And, if you’d only recognize this, we’d have no argument. You’d perhaps steer clear of attacking a consistent, small-government conservative from Texas, who has served my and your country well for decades, too. You should be ashamed.
*who has served my and your country well for decades, too. You should be ashamed.*
Ron Paul would have made a great assistant to Joseph Goebbels. Their views and spin so much alike.
I would be ashamed if I supported Paul, this contemptible
delusional being.
Actually, you're going to have to back that up, or it's you who is Goebbelsian, SoCalPol.
Understand that all foreign aid is highly questionable in the eyes of Rep. Ron Paul, again for Contitutional reasons, and adjust your agitprop accordingly.
Your tit for tat responses are typical of a cult driven
mind.
Your apparent inability to back up your nasty slurs of a decent, small-government Constitutional conservative, from a part of Texas that you deem “Hicksville,” tells me and others reading this exchange all that anyone needs to know, SoCalPol.
Have a good evening.
You haven’t backed up one thought,
just the same talking points.
Dealing with you is like dealing with a
person in a NP ward. Enjoy your delusional
thoughts.
You've implied he's some sort of Nazi or something, but refuse to provide any examples of this.
That makes you the purveyor of Goebbelsian agitprop in this exchange, SoCalPol.
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