Posted on 11/22/2009 6:50:42 AM PST by no-llmd
I myself am reviewing two documents which support my long standing claims that the accuracy of the raw data is incapable of detecting a global warming trend of less than a degree over the period of actual temperature data that began in 1880. I am seeing indications the data cannot detect a warming trend under a degree for countries and regions, let alone the Earth.
(Excerpt) Read more at strata-sphere.com ...
I suspect that we would find financial and monetary data as equally incriminating if we were to audit the fed.
That is why the left and the fed are so against that effort.
Sorry to say this to all of my Republican friends, but I definitely believe in global warming. I live in Maine, and everyone agrees that it is 30 degrees too warm. It is November and it is getting up to 60 degrees. Back in the 1980s it would have been in the 30s. We haven’t had a white Christmas in something like 10 years. This is all unheard of in traditional New England.
There are a few of those here, bust mostly we are conservatives, noob.
And your anecdote aside, AGW is a fraud. Period.
Maybe so, however in climatological terms, even 100 years is a short period of time.
Gore is running around proclaiming that the earth is practically boiling and we humans are the cause - Anthropogenic Global Warming.
The fact is, the globe has been warming since the last ice age when ALL of New England was covered by glaciers.
The climate can change for no apparent reason, for example during the "mini-ice-age"... during this time, it was right around the time of the American Revolution - cannons were taken by sleigh across Long Island Sound OVER THE FROZEN SALT WATER between Connecticut and Long Island. I used to live on Long Island sound and never once even saw ice on the water.
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ReaganCaesar - Since Nov 19, 2009
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Please don’t drink the koolaid.
Your evidence is anecdotal and HIGHLY local, NOT global.
If the entire planet warmed up 30 degrees, yes, we’d have some serious troubles.
The provinces of Western Canada this past year have had such low temps that there has been a record of relief claims by farmers for failed crops. The government was nearly unable to pay off all the farmers for failed crops. Those whom I’ve been reading and who are on the vanguard of these studies, are actually starting to fear global food shortages due to dropping temperatures.
What you are experiencing is a very normal cyclical shift primarily of moisture (thus less snow in winter and perhaps less rain in summer, though not necessarily a direct correlation) and secondarily of temperature. It will come back. And it is not caused by man’s activity.
Roy Spencer’s “Climate Confusion” is an excellent analysis of the debate and it is easy to read and comprehend.
I love Maine, and am from New England myself. I remember the cold winters of my youth with snow from beginning of winter to the end.
But I would never use one small area as an example of a trend. What is traditional to you is a narrow view of the whole subject.
As a newbie, be prepared when you make comments like that, because there are some pretty well informed people here.
I assume you left off the /s tag. Temps here in Northern Illinois have been somewhat warmer these past couple weeks, but that was after an very cold September-October. Now the temps are dropping again. Nothing really ‘New’ about this.
Just because we have occasional unseasonal weather, it doesn’t mean ‘Global Warming’. It means that weather changes. My wife and I went out to dinner last evening. We both remarked having not seen as many geese heading South as we saw while driving, at least 600-700 in two flocks, and more later, in years. I wondered whether this reflected on what our Winter promises to be like. A real scientific conclusion, right?
Global Warming is based on the idea that man is able to affect the Earth’s environment through the emission of C02 into the atmosphere. Well over 30,000 scientists, climatologists and meteorologists have signed petitions disputing that claim, including the founder of the Weather Channel, John Coleman. Sure weather changes. Sure, there is global warming, just as there is global cooling. It’s the environment we live in. But does man influence it to the degree that we can ‘trend’ results? No.
If I picked my little part of the world and used it as an indicator, I would agree with you (Texas was a scorcher this past summer) but I don’t think I can truthfully do that since the rest of the country had an extremely cold summer.
Obviously there are regional weather patterns that don’t fit the norm but to believe the earth is boiling and it is our fault, is a crock of ‘you know what’.
Aha, good catch! I've already replied to his 'boy it's warm' post. Heck, it was 55 yesterday here, and nowhere near that today. That's evidence we had global warming yesterday, but not today. What can I say? Sheesh.
Well, Northern Illinois wasn't. It was an abnormally cool Summer for us, more rain than normal as well. Farmers are just now getting their crops in because the fields have been too wet to get into, and the crops dried later than usual.
Using local conditions to substantiate global warming is a futile argument.
There was a pic on a woman walking her dog on the frozen sea.
My husband raises cattle one hour south of Houston and he considered selling some because his feed bills were huge. For most of the summer his pastures were brown. But I never considered that algore was right and that the entire earth was boiling.
The NWS shows otherwise.
We had just the opposite Summer as I’ve noted. Farmers were late getting their corn & beans in because of the wet Spring, and the wetness & cool temps carried through the Summer. We had fewer days over 90 than I can remember, and the air conditioning hardly ran at all.
The wetness continued into Fall, so harvesting has been late, coupled with lower crop prices, leaving much of the crop in the fields until lately. It looked yesterday evening that they’re somewhat over half finished with harvest, at least the area we traveled through.
One of the biggest mistakes these fraudsters made was allowing Algore to become their spokesman. If you’re going to perpetrate a fraud, at least have it fronted by someone believable, someone who can claim some knowledge of the topic.
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