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Another source, Kenyan Historian states Obama is a Kenyan citizen
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/ ^ | Nov 15,2009 | syc1959

Posted on 11/27/2009 12:02:11 PM PST by syc1959

Here is an interesting article and audio.

http://www.archive.org/details/OtunnuOnLuoTribeMemberBeingElectedPresidentOct.252008

Otunnu on Luo Tribe Member Being Elected President, Oct. 25, 2008

Olara Otunnu (Harvard Law, 1978) relating the remark of Kenyan historian Ali Mazrui on the oddity that a member of Kenya’s Luo tribe (Barack Obama, a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from birth) may become president of the United States before a Luo tribe member becomes president of Kenya. “Town Hall Forum: An Examination of Race, Age, Gender & Religion in the 2008 Election,” Harvard Law School Reunions, Oct. 25, 2008, 9:15 a.m. (Austin Hall, 1st Floor, West), at 60:17 mark.

Notice that it is a Kenyan historian that states Barack Obama is a Kenyan citizen and Luo tribe member from BIRTH!

US Natural Born citizen = US Citizen + US Allegiance + US Jurisdiction

Obama is a British subject, allegiance to the British Crown, under the British Nationality Act of 1948

Remember this was done BEFORE the election, but after numerous requests during the primary for Barack Hussein Obama to PROVE his eligibility per the United States Constitution. After the election the Kenyan Parliment stated the following;

NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT

Wednesday, 5th November, 2008

The House met at 9.00 a.m.

Dr. Khalwale: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You have heard none other than the Leader of Government Business acknowledge that because of Obama’s win in the United States of America (USA), the House is crippled.

Could we allow him to move a Motion for Adjournment so that we could also continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA? I humbly request! *****[note - "having a Kenyan ruling the USA"!]

Read the rest and more here: http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/

(Excerpt) Read more at nobarack08.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
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To: Non-Sequitur
He was a Kenyan citizen because his father was a Kenyan citizen. He lost his Kenyan citizenship at age 18.

But that didn't cause him to revert to "natural born citizen."
41 posted on 11/28/2009 1:12:08 PM PST by aruanan
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To: BP2
What wouldn't they do to remain in power?

I've been asking myself that question for quite a while now, they haven't come this far in so many years just to get voted out in 2010.

I dunno, makes me nervous.

< < Please cite a reason to TRUST Obama, Reid and Pelosi.

I've YET to have an Obama defender come up with an answer on that. Even the Obots don't trust him.

Must be a trick question :)

42 posted on 11/28/2009 1:14:59 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Wish everyone would refuse to reply to Truman’s posts. Such a pompous a@@. He delights in drawing all the negative attention, dwelling on a post that was not even directed to him. I will not even be courteous and include him in the address of this post, as I have never posted to him and never will.


43 posted on 11/28/2009 2:04:59 PM PST by upcountry miss
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’s exactly what he is, along with a few others.


44 posted on 11/28/2009 2:23:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: upcountry miss

He is an Obama worshiper. There is nothing the one can do that he would disagree with.


45 posted on 11/28/2009 2:24:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; trumandogz
What are you, an Obama worshiping apologist?

Yup, that's what he is.

46 posted on 11/28/2009 4:55:47 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: syc1959

Here’s one from Indonesia:

http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

“Barrak Hussein Obama II was born to a white American Ann Dunham and Kenyan Barrak Hussein Obama Snr, in Nyang’oma Kogelo now in Kenya.”


47 posted on 11/28/2009 5:00:20 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: trumandogz
So, according to the article the Luo Tribe could bestow membership upon Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney and Lou Dobbs making each of them ineligible for the American Presidency?
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But....Definitely the Luo tribe can NOT bestow U.S. natural born status. And...That's what matters here.

The U.S. Congress can NOT bestow U.S. natural born status either. U.S. natural born status is a condition similar to race. It is an intrinsic quality. A person must be born with it, but unlike race, a person can renounce or neglect to maintain his citizenship.

By the way...

An honest man would be **HONORED** to prove in every way possible that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president and Commander and Chief.

So?...What do Obama’s actions say about his honor and honesty? Hm?

What do Obama’s actions say about the honor and honesty of those who defend him?

48 posted on 11/28/2009 5:19:36 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Please read post #48.


49 posted on 11/28/2009 5:22:02 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
If one or several of the states propose legislation that would require future presidential candidates to produce birth certificates, college transcripts and full medical records, I would be supportive of that legislation.

However, no such laws exist today and you cannot turn back the clock.

Finally, I must say that I am looking forward to seeing that video tape of Obama “proudly touting his Kenyan birth.”

50 posted on 11/28/2009 5:41:29 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Your comment has absolutely nothing to do with the points made or the questions asked in post #48.


51 posted on 11/28/2009 6:57:18 PM PST by wintertime
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To: trumandogz
So, according to the article the Luo Tribe could bestow membership upon Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney and Lou Dobbs making each of them ineligible for the American Presidency?

They were not born a member of the tribe, so no. But actually whether Obama was a Kenyan citizen, British subject, and/or Luo tribesman at birth is irrelevant. What is relevant is that his father was not a US citizen.

His father being a Brit Subject makes him a natural born British subject, probably, under British law. But that is nearly irrelevant as well.

52 posted on 11/28/2009 7:44:47 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: wintertime
So, according to the article the Luo Tribe could bestow membership upon Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney and Lou Dobbs making each of them ineligible for the American Presidency?

Actually, no American can accept such honors without Congressional approval if they come with a title of nobility. An American who holds office cannot even be knighted without that approval.

Article I Section 9, last paragraph, the Constitution of the United States of America.

53 posted on 11/28/2009 8:25:30 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: trumandogz; Las Vegas Ron; BP2; Fred Nerks; 444Flyer; MHGinTN; LucyT

Keep guessing. It may not be #1 or #2. Put on your thinking cap, maybe you will figure out. It’s so much fun to see you squirm.
NOW, evidence is gathered and there is no blabbing on the open forum, nobody is going to tell you jack sh*t. The video with Alan Keyes, it exists. You will never know who has it, that you can rest assured of. There also may be some newspapers floating around that blow the birth announcement BS all to hell. Ya just never know what some PI’s and attorney’s may be amassing. wink and see ya.
Keep trying to get info for your pal Barry, don’t hold your breath. The info has gone underground buddy.


54 posted on 11/28/2009 11:38:37 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe; Las Vegas Ron; BP2; Fred Nerks; 444Flyer; MHGinTN; LucyT; Blood of Tyrants
NOW, evidence is gathered and there is no blabbing on the open forum, nobody is going to tell you jack sh*t. The video with Alan Keyes, it exists. You will never know who has it, that you can rest assured of.

Why that is kinda funny considering that the "birthers" have had a tendency of late to manufacture evidence regarding Obama's status as a natural born citizen.

First there was the Maya BC that was altered to be Barack's BC. Second, there was the fact floated that Obama travelled to Pakistan when it was illegal for Americans to travel to Pakistan.

Third, Fake Kenyan BC # 1 that many 'birthers' fell for.

Fourth, Fake Kenyan BC # 2 that Lucas Smith produced.

And now there is the video tape of Obama "proudly touting his Kenyan birth." And for some reason, the tape that allegedly was recored when Obama was debating Alan Keyes has not surfaced, even though Keyes has filed lawsuits challenging Obama's eligibility. It would seem to me that such a tape would have been entered into evidence or released sometime before the 2008 election.

As for my theory, I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii and while being constitutionally qualified for the office, is not necessarily intellectually qualified. However, he is smart enough to keep this issue out there, in order to divert attention from other matters concerning his administration.

55 posted on 11/29/2009 2:29:33 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: wintertime
The U.S. Congress can NOT bestow U.S. natural born status either. U.S. natural born status is a condition similar to race. It is an intrinsic quality. A person must be born with it, but unlike race, a person can renounce or neglect to maintain his citizenship.

As far as I can tell, the Electoral College, the entirety of the House and Senate, Vice President Cheney and Chief Justice Roberts all understand that Obama is a natural born citizen and is thus constitutionally qualified.

Now, if somebody would provide information as to why Cheney and John Roberts cannot be trusted, I would love to listen.

56 posted on 11/29/2009 2:34:19 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
An honest man would be **HONORED** to prove in every way possible that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president and Commander and Chief.

So?...What do Obama’s actions say about his honor and honesty? Hm?

What do Obama’s actions say about the honor and honesty of those who defend him?

57 posted on 11/29/2009 5:15:23 AM PST by wintertime
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To: trumandogz
Now, if somebody would provide information as to why Cheney and John Roberts cannot be trusted, I would love to listen.
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Neither of these Weenies has seen, examined, or made any written or verbal comment about:

**Verification of Obama’s relationship with the British citizen and Kenyan father that he claims
**Obama’s original long form birth certificate.
**College records
**Adoption records
**Repatriation records
**Selective Service registration
**Passport records
**College admission records and transcripts

Gee! If you have any record of their doing so please provide the link.

Again....An honest man would be **HONORED** to prove in all the ways listed above that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.

Now please answer the following ( you seem to want to skate around these two questions):

**What does Obama’s actions regarding the documents listed above say about his honesty and honor?

**What does Obama’s actions regarding his natural born status have to say about the honor and honest of those who defend him?

58 posted on 11/29/2009 5:29:26 AM PST by wintertime
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To: aruanan
But that didn't cause him to revert to "natural born citizen."

That may not have prevented natural-born citizenship to begin with.

59 posted on 11/29/2009 5:41:29 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: trumandogz

Yawn.


60 posted on 11/29/2009 6:54:31 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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