Wal Mart does it again

Huntington Political Examiner ^ | 11/28/2009 | Mark Shoffner

[mshoffner]

Wal Mart does it again. The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled in favor of the chain store. In 2005, the store in Jonquiree, Quebec was closed because of the recent union certification of the stores employees. This, of course, led to various court runs by the displaced employees of the store. At the end of 2005, the Quebec Labor Board ordered Wal Mart to compensate the former employees. (http://wakeupwalmart.com/facts/) Friday, the Supreme Court of Canada has seen fit to rule 4-3 in favor of the company. As usual

[mshoffner]

The ability for employees to organize is protected by law. Therefore, a company not allowing it to happen is illegal. That is why Walmart and other companies never say that the reason for closure is union related. In Marion a few years back, 3M told the employees to take a union vote. Then gave them a 3 day break. When the workers got back, the doors were locked and the equipment was gone. This is the type of business behavior I am against.

[dforest]

You are incredibly naive.

There is also no law that forces a company to keep thir doors open.

The company boted with it’s feet.

They said adios. Heard it is warm down south.

[dforest]

boted=voted

[Echo4C]

There’s nothing illegal about a business closing one of its locations. Or, at least, in a free world there isn’t.

On the one hand, you say that WM is bad because they come into a community and destroy the small businesses.

On the other hand, you say WM is bad because instead of letting their employees unionize, they close.

I’m confused, isn’t this a victory for people like you that hate WM? Now you can bring back in all those overpriced small businesses you care about.

I’m assuming you’ve been fed this opinion, so I’m going to give you a little advice. During the formation of an idea, it’s usually smart to attack your own idea and see where it’s weak. When you do this, either your idea evolves or you come up with good defenses for its weaknesses. Or you just become one of the many hypocrites in the world. Before you post any more of this leftist drivel, you might want to give it some deeper thought. You’re no Jack Handey.

[Nik Naym]

“In Marion a few years back, 3M told the employees to take a union vote. Then gave them a 3 day break. When the workers got back, the doors were locked and the equipment was gone. This is the type of business behavior I am against.”

And the type I fully support.

[mshoffner]

I wasn’t fed anything. My opinion comes from what I’ve seen in communities that I’ve lived as well as coming from my time spent as a Walmart employee. I feel it is wrong for a company to come to destroy smaller businesses. If a company came and worked with a small business (and despite popular corporate belief, it can be done and be of a profit) and treated their employees in a proper manner, I would not have a problem.
I have owned two business (contracting and landscaping) as well as managed others. I treated my employees well. Paid them a decent wage, offered them benefits (which were turned down). These are the ways to keep employees from wanting a union. I’ve also worked for a metal plant that paid above non union norms, had affordable benefits, and decent work hours. There was never one call for a union vote. Why? Because the business showed respect and compassion for their employees.
The other problem I have is, a company closing a profitable business because they don’t want to deal with their employees. This not only harms the displaced workers, but cuts the local tax base, lowers the amount of money placed into the community, and places more on the government ran welfare state. All because a company didn’t want to allow their employees to decide for themselves. In a lot of cases, employees vote against a union.

[narses]

I feel it is wrong for a company to come to destroy smaller businesses.

Name the businesses that you claim Walmart destroyed in Huntington. Go ahead, name them.

[narses]

I am still waiting for an answer - what business got closed down by Walmart in Huntington, waiting.....

[AliVeritas]

It seems the former steel worker should be on the union re: why he and many of his brothers don’t have jobs; He could also asked why PA and other former steel meccas were shut down. Their man is in the house and his party runs the hill.

But i’m sure the union bosses are living swell, not worrying about putting food on their families tables.

In NYC the Stella Doro company was renowned for it’s Italian pastries (been around forever); The union was on strike for a couple years. I repeatedly told them they would end up with no jobs... and in the climate they should be happy for what they had, (I was cursed). Long story short, since they got the truckers union down with them and didn’t want to transport the goods, the company started to feel the pain and the owner jetted. The new owner shows up with the union in his face from day one, he wants to streamline to the popular products to save the bottom line, they balked more. Guess what? You got it, now closed.

They don’t know when to quit; Like all commies, they strike in crisis and sometimes create the crisis as word comes down. I still remember, though some forget, all the strikes on the car companies (especially the one time they got American Axle and other parts and transport unions down with them right in the heart of high gas prices), then they wondered why they don’t get paid after cutting off their sales. They come to the table to get all, no compromise, nada.

I was at Penn for homecoming a short while back and their transit struck dead in the middle of the week... the workers were not pleased, they knew the job market was iffy.

It’s time for them to be Americans and work to ‘help’ the country when it’s down... instead of kicking it.

[goat granny]

I am a senior that pays for my own prescriptions. WalMart has done more for seniors than the stupid government...

[unique]

Sounds like everything has worked out fine.

Especially within smaller communities, WalMart is welcomed by most people, except for those that are living off the higher prices....

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I guess paying below a living wage is acceptable.

What the devil is a "living wage"? My wages never breath and only move when I move them.

BTW, in my heavily union area Wal-mart pays MORE then the unionized stores and if you want to work over time you doing have to give the shop steward a BJ.

[narses]

I am still waiting for an answer - what business got closed down by Walmart in Huntington, waiting.....

{{{crickets}}}

[ChildOfThe60s]

Some things are ok but you need to be careful.

Besides that, one also pays for service and knowledge. I used to live where I had a large, locally owned Ace Hardware store. Some of the stuff was not as low priced as WM. But when I went in there, they had what I wanted! And the people there knew so much more about a lot of the products. What I received in service, know how and product availability was certainly worth 10-15%. And often, there was no appreciable difference.

You ever drive through city traffic to WM, park in a giant lot and walk to a giant store, where your goal is located in the farthest nether reaches of the huge building; only to discover that they don't have what you want? And there isn't anyone that knows anything about it? Everything comes with a price. Even cheaper goods.

[narses]

I don’t believe that anyman is worth 35-40 dollars and hour.

What an odd view. How did you decide that range? Oh yeah, I am still waiting for an answer - what business got closed down by Walmart in Huntington, waiting..... {{{crickets}}}

[dforest]

I agree. My husband and myself both take blood pressure medication. Our prescriptions are cheap there. It has really helped out. Plus they work with us.

It is funny how Walmart is always picked on for having stuff from China, believe me, I have worked retail and Walmart is not the only one by any means.

This person posting here has made their argument the one that lefties always whine about. Ignorance has its hosts.

[RJL]

The free market is never wrong.

Years ago while in high school my daughter worked as a cashier at a Target store. After a Wal-Mart building started construction across the street, they announced that hourly wages at Target would be going up by a dollar an hour as soon as the Wal-Mart store opened.

I guess being protected by the hard left politically connected Dayton family (the former Dayton Hudson Corp started the Target chain) and former Minnesota Democrat Senator Mark Dayton protects Target from Democrat political and union pressures.

[goat granny]

Agree, since its the government that started the "living wage" idea, its got to be good for unions and bad for business. Place's like McDonalds and other fast food places were never meant for people with families...its for teens to get a job. No one at 16 needs a living wage. Many at 20 are still living at home and don't need a "living wage"...

My In-laws rented for 20 years and saved up money to buy their first home, with cash....what a quaint idea to the young of today...Save for what you want..

Unions can make many lazy.....they deserve everything and don't want to work for anything...just give us the money. Thats what unions do for people, but their cut comes off the top....of the workers salary...

[goat granny]

Good for 3M...if the employees can vote in a union, the owner has a right to move their business elsewhere. The government should have no say in how a business is run or where and when the owner can move it or close it down...I am just waiting for government motors to start to slash union salaries or go out of business.

Unions price themselves right out of the market place..

[driftdiver]

Monopolies are a bad thing.