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Duncan Hunter Interview - Dec 8, 2009: On Huckabee, the EPA, GOP Amnesty Hacks, and Harry Reid!!
Red Stater ^ | 12/10/09 | DH/AJM

Posted on 12/10/2009 12:17:43 PM PST by pissant

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To: pissant

I did discuss the Political Compass, yes.
I was surprised you’d never seen it.
What I vaguely remember now is your previous attempts at a similar distortion.

Most readers of this site are likely familiar with the Political Compass already, so you’re only making yourself appear foolish and slimy with your attempts at distorting it and then ‘linking’ me to it.

Everyone is very impressed by your mastery of Saul Alinsky, though, I’m sure.
Maybe you could help on 0bama’s next campaign.


41 posted on 12/10/2009 3:01:36 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch

I wasn’t the only one to notice Tancredo listed under totalitarian and Edwards under libertarian. That chart was and is a piece of crap. Only an ignorant little ankle biter like you would be stupid enough to defend it.


42 posted on 12/10/2009 3:06:34 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

The Political Compass is more more of a concept than anything else.
It is simply illustrating that politics is multi-dimesional, not just linear left/right.

If there was a chart that put Hunter on the Autoritarian side and Edwards on Libertarian side, that is because Edwards is far more socially permissive than Hunter.
You disagree with that?

But also keep in mind, where anyone falls on the graph is up to how the person charting them interprets the issues and the candidates’ positions. It is not impervious to bad data or personal bias.

I never endorsed any particular chart created by someone using the Political Compass.
I only only discussed it as a concept.
It is and remains valid. Otherwise, without an X,Y axis, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, for example, may appear to be ideological soulmates in a simplified linear graph.


43 posted on 12/10/2009 3:18:11 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch; pissant
..what true colors would that be?

Even the most honorable and decent individuals can occasionally buy a wagon load of manure offered by a slick salesman.

Huck and DH share a common faith tradition, but not a whole lot else. I believe Hunter felt the need to try to derail McCain somehow. Unfortunately Huck only sounded like a conservative.

One final observation--If I read things correctly, DH's energies are channeled toward helping congressional candidates for 2010. I don't sense the fire of '07--but of course that could change...

44 posted on 12/10/2009 4:12:04 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: counterpunch
Duncan Hunter is no Ronald Reagan.

No? They were friends, and in the strategic U.S. military rebuilding, Ron had no greater friend than Duncan in the House of Representatives.


45 posted on 12/10/2009 4:17:57 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: WalterSkinner
..what true colors would that be?
[...]
Huck and DH share a common faith tradition, but not a whole lot else.
You pretty much nailed it yourself, without even realizing it.
When it came down to it, Hunter endorsed the fellow evangelical, simply because of his religion.
Hunter let religion trump principles, and revealed his real priorities in doing so.
Hunter gets sold as a patriotic America-first national defense conservative a lot around here.
But when it comes down to brass tacks, he's really just another Huckabee-style religious conservative, nothing more.
 
46 posted on 12/10/2009 4:26:23 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: WalterSkinner

There were 4 things, above and beyond Huck being a Baptist that won Hunter’s endoresment.

1) Huck came out with a strict ‘no amnesty’ plan. And fully (and conveniently) supported Hunter’s Border Fence bill.

2) Huck was a fellow promoter of the FairTax

3) Huck bought into Hunter’s call to re-industrialize America.

4) Huck was nearly Hunter’s equal in opposing abortion and supporting the 2A.

The problem, as you and I recognize, is that much like Flip Romney, Huck’s new found positions on some of these issues was directly in contradiction to his mealy mouthed record as guv. And unlike Hunter, we don’t trust Huck not to blow with the prevailing winds.

Hunter was stuck choosing between Amnesty Juan, snake oil Huck, China apologist Flip “ewww -evil assault weapons” Romney, abortionist Rudy, and the Stalking Horse. He should have refrained from any endorsement, frankly. But it is what it is.

Right now I don’t see ANYONE else out there doing what Hunter is doing for the 2010 race.


47 posted on 12/10/2009 4:27:17 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: counterpunch; WalterSkinner

My goodness. Most people get wiser with age. You grow increasingly clueless. I’ve yet to see anything quite as dumb as your last gumflap.


48 posted on 12/10/2009 4:30:05 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: counterpunch

..help me out, you were supporting who in ‘08?


49 posted on 12/10/2009 4:34:38 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: pissant

..you are right on those points about common ground between Huck and DH—they shared a lot, but Huck was still to the left of even GWB...


50 posted on 12/10/2009 4:42:02 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: pissant
Right now I don’t see ANYONE else out there doing what Hunter is doing for the 2010 race

..as soon as "Anyone" finishes her book tour, I think you'll see some additional help out there--to monstrous crowds...

51 posted on 12/10/2009 4:46:04 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner

That depends on who was in the running at the time.
I take the “best viable option” approach.
At no point was Hunter either the best or viable.


52 posted on 12/10/2009 4:46:05 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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..I didn’t ask you who you didn’t support—you weren’t one of those Rudy guys or gals were you LOL...


53 posted on 12/10/2009 4:48:17 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner

Oh I’m sure about that. Palin will be quite the draw.

I wasn’t just talking about fundraising though. Hunter has been recruiting some of these conservative, young vets.


54 posted on 12/10/2009 4:49:42 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
There were 4 things, above and beyond Huck being a Baptist that won Hunter’s endoresment.

1) Huck came out with a strict ‘no amnesty’ plan. And fully (and conveniently) supported Hunter’s Border Fence bill.
2) Huck was a fellow promoter of the FairTax
3) Huck bought into Hunter’s call to re-industrialize America.
4) Huck was nearly Hunter’s equal in opposing abortion and supporting the 2A.
Those are pretty much the exact reasons I gave when I predicted Hunter would endorse Huckleberry.
And yet at the time, you said I was dead wrong.
 
55 posted on 12/10/2009 4:50:32 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: WalterSkinner

I don’t trust anyone who is a food or smoke nazi. Huck is both.


56 posted on 12/10/2009 4:50:32 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

..his idea of bringing vets into the process is brilliant...


57 posted on 12/10/2009 4:52:07 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner

No, I was never for Rudy, though I would have voted for him in a heartbeat over 0bama.
The only candidate I was ever enthusiastic about at all was Fred.
Unfortunately, Fred wasn’t.

After that, it was clearly a race for Romney to stop McCain, and I was for stopping McCain.
Charlie Crist pretty much ended that and sealed the McCain nomination — something I have not forgotten, and I hope no one else has either.

But once it became clear that McCain was what we had to live with, I supported him over 0bama.
It was very frustrating watching such an incompetent boob blow every opportunity he had for 3 months straight.

Still, I proudly voted for the guy who wasn’t 0bama.


58 posted on 12/10/2009 4:56:25 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch
Still, I proudly voted for the guy who wasn’t 0bama

..hence the difference between us

I was nauseous on election day, having to vote for someone whom I thought was a crass, adulterous jerk who rode the horse of his captivity to the threshold of the highest office, but never had the integrity to be a leader

I voted for the lady from up North...

59 posted on 12/10/2009 5:02:56 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner

I wasn’t voting for either McCain or Palin.
I was voting against 0bama.

I was nauseous on election day from the thought that 0bama was very likely going to be elected.


60 posted on 12/10/2009 5:11:21 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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