Could this be the Birth Certificate submitted by Obama's Grandmother?

Western Journalism ^ | 12/11/2009 | borderraven

[BorderRaven]

See http://www.scribd.com/doc/24001567/Obama-BC-GMom

"In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent’s claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver’s license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver’s license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the ‘60s." ... http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697

[hennie pennie]

Well, yes, it is my strong o.p.i.n.i.o.n that both Nancy & Harry KNEW full well, as well as those Congressmen who were examining John McCain's eligibility.

You see, Onyx, I don't think that either Nancy or Harry care if BHO is eligible, they simply wanted the BLACK VOTE, they knew that they couldn't win the presidency without the BLACK VOTE and so Hillary was told to back down girl, back down....

Yeah, it's my strong OPINION that lots of the D.C. elite do know and that they consider the rest of us a buncha naive dumbos who don't understand Power.

[hennie pennie]

Onyx.... Recently AIR AMERICA has become ... like listening to some fantasitical alternative universe.

People are calling in and saying things like, "That miserable BHO!! He is a hack conservative, that's ALL he is, a HACK conservative!!!

It's.... like travelling... not so much to a foreign country, but to an alien planet, or like going through the Looking Glass and everything is Upside Down.

Apparently, if I understand what I've been hearing of late, there is ONLY one good true authentic honest trustworthy Democrat.

Who?

Dennis Kucinich.

I'm NOT kidding.

[onyx]

Wow. That’s giving Pelosi and Reid quite a bit of power over Obama, should one or both ever decide to turn on him.

Because his past is a mystery, I can only guess when his indoctrination began -— in Hawaii with that Frank Marshall Davis -— when his grooming for the presidency began -— upon his arrival in Chicago as a Community Organizer -—but I am of the opinion that after his speech at the ‘rat convention in ‘04 the Obama machine was born and it went into action full time, churning out the “novel about his life” for the purpose of staving off questions from a media that had already found him charming.

I’e always thought that Soros, Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel and scant few others are actually in the know, but you could certainly be right. That’s the dig, we just don’t know.

[onyx]

LOLOLOLOLOL

I have heard that about Dennis Kucinich too! In fact, I saw him on a FNC, and lo and behold, he almost sounded sensible to me! No kidding.

[Eepsy]

I have to say, Dennis is one of the few dems I have a modicum of respect for. Sure, he's a whack-job, but at least he's an internally consistent whack-job.

[hennie pennie]

>>> "I have heard that about Dennis Kucinich too! In fact, I saw him on a FNC, and lo and behold, he almost sounded sensible to me! No kidding." <<<<

I'll have to keep an eye out for him, he is always described as an HONEST man, unlike ALL other party Dems who they consider to ALL be corrupt elites.

Mike Malloy is just kicking himself for having trusted BHO, as there was nothing known about BHO, in order to decide whether he was trustworthy.

It's quite fascinating how the liberals who call in to the show seem to have the same amount of respect for most of the elected Dems, as most freepers have for RINOs -- oftentimes it seems like the exact same words are being used, except for the designations: left/right; Dem/Rep; Liberal/Conservative.

Some people like to watch the SyFy Channel, but AIR AMERICA is otherworldly enough for me, LOL

Oh.... the angst in some of their voices, the sheer angst that The One is NOT who they believed He was......

[hennie pennie]

>>>> "I have to say, Dennis is one of the few dems I have a modicum of respect for. Sure, he's a whack-job, but at least he's an internally consistent whack-job." <<<<

That's very interesting; seriously, whenever I've seen him in the past, I've turned the channel -- but obviously will not do so in the future.

[onyx]

Well, this makes three of us Ku-Ku’s. LOL

[danamco]

Together with the rest of talking heads, Ann would NOT have a gig at Fox and other places if she was NOT in lock step from the orders given from higher ups. It is just that simple, because her vicious remarks made no sense!!!

[urtax$@work]

I am beginning to wonder if suing Factcheck.org might be a better idea. Forcing them to prove that “FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.”

Yes, i have been thinking same. A plan to rightfully discredit the 2nd TIER. I define the 2nd TIER as those in positions (outside of federal govt) who have direct involvement in print media/internet media, ergo; newspapers/ bloggers / who cover for Obo. I am sure other Freepers here can better flesh this out into a mission statement to cover most bases.

An objective would be to force 2nd TIER members 1 by 1 to retract or correct previous inaccurate statements.

I got the idea when i remembered Larry Klayman's -Judicial Watch hound the Clinton Admin. by getting Sworn Testimony by some in his inner circle. I don't know how you "require sworn affidavits " of anyone, but he got the likes of George Step-on-all-of-us to answer questions under oath and posted such on the J.W. web site.

[Electric Graffiti]

Together with the rest of talking heads, Ann would NOT have a gig at Fox and other places if she was NOT in lock step from the orders given from higher ups.

I believe you're right. A gag order issued on this subject is the only way to explain how all the so called conservtive talking heads run like little girls when this issue comes up. This is the BIGGEST STORY IN AMERICAN HISTORY. Yet few in the media are even nibbling around the edges of it.

[musicman]

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