Posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:56 PM PST by USALiberty
US Military Forces are refusing to take Orders from Obama unless he can prove he is a US Citizen. They plan Court action as theie Lawyers are taking Briefs as we speak.
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Do you have a copy of the Lolo divorce? I only have the Obama record sans one page.
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With all due respect, but where have you been?
You never heard him say during his campaign that he want a private force that is stronger than our military??
Happy New Year, which I DREAD!!!
I’ve heard it — I’ve seen it. There are indications he is putting plans into place — but I DON’T see an Obama SS forming yet — not publicly anyway. I’m just asking for some more solid evidence of your contentions. It’s NOT that I don’t believe you, I just think concrete proof is missing.
I hope I didn’t come off as snarky in my question to you, Vendome. I just wasn’t sure what you were looking for, and wanted to help if I could. :)
I was adopted as an infant, so you and Brytani have a much better understanding of the issue as it affects those who know their birth name, are adopted as an older child, etc... I can only attest to how hard it would be for anyone adopted - whether as an infant, or older to actually access a copy of the true original themselves. It most certainly cannot be done without a court order. Even then one that showed his name “pre-adoption” would NOT be considered a legally valid document - as you said, the only one after that point that is legal is the amended certificate.
Now, I do remember seeing some sort of documentation somewhere about his adoption where his name is mentioned as Barry Soetero (and it wasn’t his Indonesian school record I don’t think), but I doubt there’s any way I’ll be able to remember where it was that I saw it. [It’s one reason why I am REALLY upset that my hard-drive crashed earlier this year as I hadn’t yet transferred copies - when will I learn??? I had so much information stored on it regarding this issue - very frustrating...]
Those would have been triggered by the filing of the birth certificate. The one we are not allowed to see. The announcements do not say where he was born, who signed as witness to the birth, etc.
Those announcements are not "placed". They are generated by the filing of the birth certificate paperwork. Regardless of who submitted it.
But unless the long form shows some US citizen as his father, it doesn't really matter where he was born. He's not a natural born citizen.
Actually there is. Some of it generated as recently as 2004, when he was elected to the US Senate. Newspaper reports in Africa called him Kenyan born. But as I said, as long as his father was not a citizen, he's not a Natural Born Citizen.
I think that is what bothers many of us about Barry O.’s COLB. It is hyphenated, we know that there are at least three Long Form BC’s in existence and Barry has two in his possession; the one he used to obtain his first passport and maybe to enter college, as well for other documentation requirements.
The most damning BC that he absolutely has is the one he found amongst his mother's belongings, upon her death. It seemed pretty important as he described it in his book and wondered what it meant in his life.
I know if I found something like that, given an absentee father, I would keep and put in some protective cover as I have done with antique documents(I have known mine and my relatives all my life and he just wasn't around hence, my adoption by my Dad).
Now, we have been given to understand or infer Barry was adopted. Was he? I have found no documentation and have only anecdotal information that says “it's possible”, yet there is also a way to read the information as a lie created by parents to obtain an advantage for their child.
Did Lolo adopt Barry? Who knows. There would be documentation between two countries if he was and we have none to prove it is true.
Yes, Barry's sister said that he was but how do ascertain with certainty her story isn't anything more than “family lore”, which exists in all families. You hear one thing but reality is another.
If Barry was adopted then he is operating under an AKA or he had his name legally changed back to Barack Obama. In any case, if we assume the later, where is that documentation? It is out there if it is true and maybe we have not asked the right question to the correct venue.
So what really happened? Don't know but I do seek the answer.
What we do have is a man that has concealed his entire past and we are only given a chalkboard upon which we can project whatever we hope to see. But without proof, none of it is a fact.
Is Barry one of the smartest men ever? His college records would certainly shed light. We have an article where he discoursed about disarmament and it appears to have been written by a high schooler, who has not even taken to rudimentary background of his article.
Barry himself is project some Aquarius utopia in the article but not anything reasoned or even approachable.
Is he a deep thinker? We have the records of GW and John Kerry to ascertain what their academic performance was. So when GW spoke plainly, given his grades in college, it wasn't a surprise, really.
Could Barry skate through life with an invented life story, designed to bolster his ability to ascend to certain positions? How could it be out of the realm? We have Senators who claimed certain experience in Vietnam and later recanted. We have University professors claiming all sorts of things about themselves, in an effort to appeal to their audience and there is a certain one, in Colorado, who was dismissed for doing just that.
I have worked with people who pretended to so smart and a college graduate, so they could obtain a position with the firm I was working with. Heck, there where so proud of their accomplishment the prominently displayed their “Diploma” in their cubicle.
These are guys who where under the scrutiny of a Fortune 500 and the investigation company presumably verified the claims on their resumes. And yet, later they were discovered for not possessing a diploma and where summarily dismissed.
We have a certain mayor who claimed military action and status that didn't exist.
Similar occurrences can be found at leadership of major companies and even where I live, government representatives, who where well known in the community, vouched for and found to be frauds.
Now you have probably heard about Bernie Madoff and Mr. Stanford of Houston but, here in the Bay Area there is a similar man so well known among the power movers of the community and he sits in jail now for similar fraud.
How could it happen? How could his past be concealed? I don't put anymore thought into it other than that was there intent and they worked at it.
So I ask again to anyone: Where is the one page missing in the divorce decree for Barack Sr., in Hawaii and where is the documentation of Barry's adoption?
Hope you had a great time for New Years.
You sir are majorly DECEIVED. But on the other hand, your an Obamabot. I feel bady for you. CO
Why do you pr*cks keep showing up here? Why are you not on the DU site? That’s where you belong, certainly not here. CO
You sir, wouldn’t know a “fact” if it hit you in the face. Your posts are rediculous and very very obvious. CO
You tired old fart - he has MANY passports just as he has many many Social Insurance numbers. THINK for a minute could you? CO
You sir are NOT compelling either. In fact, quite the opposite, your excuse makaing is particularly obvious!! CO
I see the Dem posters have awaken from their New Years stupor spamming the thread.
Really? It isn’t rational to me to set aside all the “facts’ and come to different conclusion. Good day!! CO
Got ya. Right on. CO
Oops wrong eligibility thread but they are still Dem spammers.
I know Red!! CO
I’d like to see his college records even more.A certain ARAB gentleman( who tried to pay off the mayor of NYC after 9/11) asked Percy E. Sutton to write a letter to help get Obama in Harvard. Now , why the f*ck would some ARAB scumbag be so interested in Obama years before he ran for anything ? Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The facts are the very one that Obama stated during his campaign and since. He IS building an army of thugs and I quote: “It will be stronger and better armed than the Military”. Only a tyrannt who never plans to leave office would ever need such a thing. Rotza Ruck!! With your blindness, anything can happen. CO
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