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Haiti Suffers Catastrophe of Major Proportions
TheCypressTimes.com ^ | 01/13/2010 | John G. Winder

Posted on 01/13/2010 5:51:06 AM PST by Patriot1259

First Lady of Haiti Begs For U.S. Hospital Ship; Capital of Port Au Prince in Ruins

In a press conference held just moments ago, Haiti’s Ambassador to the U.S., Raymond Alcide Joseph said Haiti is currently in the assessment phase. Alcide also related a message from Haitian First Lady Elisabeth Debrosse Delatour who said, “Please ask the world. Ask the United States to help us with a hospital ship.”

In 2008, the U.S. deployed a Navy Hospital ship following widespread devastation caused by numerous hurricanes that struck the island nation.

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TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: destruction; earthquake; haiti; haitiearthquake; haitiquake; haitiquake2010; portauprince; relief

1 posted on 01/13/2010 5:51:09 AM PST by Patriot1259
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To: Patriot1259

This is way beyond the capacity of a hospital ship.

What has Hugo offered?


2 posted on 01/13/2010 5:53:59 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: Patriot1259
Prayers and support for the island's people.

The world loves America after an earth-quake. Maybe we should keep a tally on how much the the 'international community' helps, and how much the United States of America helps.
3 posted on 01/13/2010 5:55:44 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Patriot1259

Haiti is a poor country in our own hemisphere - not far from Florida.

We should help them.

But its interesting Hussein responded IMMEDIATELY to this catastrophe - UNLIKE his studied, labored and well-parced responses to DOMESTIC tragedies - like the Fort Hood massacre.


4 posted on 01/13/2010 5:56:46 AM PST by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Patriot1259

Will it be 3 days before O responds?


5 posted on 01/13/2010 5:57:29 AM PST by Mercat (With all due respect . . . this is the people's seat.)
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To: Patriot1259
“Please ask the world. Ask the United States to help us with a hospital ship.”

...and we will respond and help the Haitians from this awful catastrophe.

Just and observation. We are almost always there to help anyone in need, even Iran when they had those earthquakes a few years back. But for that help, we are labeled the "Great Satan".

6 posted on 01/13/2010 5:58:01 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com)
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To: Patriot1259
Dear leftists leaders: Quit wasting wealth on global warming and other silly crap. There are plenty of real catastrophes on this planet...
7 posted on 01/13/2010 6:03:19 AM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: ZULU

Buraq could bring millions of them here, or just make Haiti a US protectorate- 3 million new democrat voters, just in time for 2010

Let no crisis go to waste


8 posted on 01/13/2010 6:03:25 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: silverleaf
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the United States was offering full assistance - civilian and military. Prime Minister Gordon Brown said Britain would provide "whatever humanitarian assistance is required," while France, Canada, China, Germany, Mexico and Venezuela pledged immediate support in terms of personnel, cash and supplies.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?id=7215395&section=news/national_world

9 posted on 01/13/2010 6:04:27 AM PST by stormer
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To: Patriot1259

We should do everything, as a nation, in our power.


10 posted on 01/13/2010 6:06:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (America has been dead for a while; It's interesting to watch the cadaver cool.)
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To: Patriot1259
" Ask the United States to help us with a hospital ship.”

It's interesting how people see the world. This is a massive quake, with 3 million people affected -- and the request is for a boat to help them out. They need a lot more than that.

Conversely, I heard someone on the radio this morning -- they live in Ann Arbor, Michigan and they got through to a relative in Haiti. The relative asked, "How much devastation did you get in Michigan? Is everyone OK there?"

Nice of them to ask, I suppose, but although this is a massive quake, it wasn't that massive.

11 posted on 01/13/2010 6:06:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Patriot1259

The devastation on one of the poorest nations in the world looks to be of epic proportions...I have just asked my corporation (in the health care business) what we can do to help. It is heartbreaking to see those people wandering the streets not knowing where their family and friends are.


12 posted on 01/13/2010 6:17:59 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

These “boats” have over a dozen operating rooms and typically as many as 1,000 or more hospital beds. The main hospitals in Port Au Prince have collapsed....what you ask for in this case?

How exactly does one help 3,000,000 people instantly?


13 posted on 01/13/2010 6:21:05 AM PST by Patriot1259
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To: Patriot1259

If people want to open their pocketbooks or write a check, that is what they should do. But our government should NOT commit massive amounts of taxpayer dollars to help. We have already run up a debt of astronomic proportions, the result of which has been unemployment, homelessness and a whole host of other economic and social problems. Our taxpayer dollars should be committed to our causes only; we should not be carrying the rest of the world.

Haiti was and will remain a black hole. We have poured large sums of money into this country; yet, it gets worse and worse there. The problems with Haiti started a long time ago and they will not be reversed with another infusion of cash from the United States. Haiti could do a booming tourism business, relieving the economic plight of its citizens, but it does not. Like many countries, Haiti continues to look for a bailout, particularly from the US. The citizens have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They have to demand and install a better government than what they have now. In other words, they have to help themselves, not look to the US and the rest of the world.

If the United Nations wants to send relief, that’s fine. They don’t appreciate the United States anyway...unless they have their hands out for something. Even then, the US is criticized for not doing enough. Fine. If the UN thinks it can do a better job with relief (which it can’t as we know from past disasters), good — let them do it.

It’s a hard and perhaps cruel position to take, but the US has to stop being the caretaker of the world. Only then can we force countries to stand up for themselves and compel other cheap, lazy countries to put forth some of their money if that’s what they want to do.


14 posted on 01/13/2010 6:28:46 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Patriot1259
How exactly does one help 3,000,000 people instantly?

One at a time. (Sadly)

15 posted on 01/13/2010 6:29:32 AM PST by Lando Lincoln (Gee, it looks like climate change was man-made after all!)
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To: silverleaf
Exactly!

sw

16 posted on 01/13/2010 6:30:58 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (11/02/10)
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To: silverleaf

On the other hand, one hospital ship would be better than zero hospital ships.


17 posted on 01/13/2010 6:33:04 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Unfortunately if after some time there is no mass efforts of aid the affected population will just pick up what meager possessions they do have and will move on, in mass.

I am thinking the next tragedy will be the many that will die trying to escape to Florida.


18 posted on 01/13/2010 6:33:40 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Conversely, I heard someone on the radio this morning -- they live in Ann Arbor, Michigan and they got through to a relative in Haiti. The relative asked, "How much devastation did you get in Michigan? Is everyone OK there?"

That's because many people of Haiti actually believed that the quake was global and the world was ending.

19 posted on 01/13/2010 6:37:25 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (11/02/10)
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To: Patriot1259
Did you think that I was arguing against sending a hospital ship??

Send the first ship available! Send it now! Follow up with more ships! These people need help.

My comment was really about the way people view the world and whether they think things are bigger than they are or smaller than they are.

20 posted on 01/13/2010 6:37:53 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Patriot1259
Presidential Palace

Before

After


21 posted on 01/13/2010 6:47:21 AM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: Petronski

Maybe not- if it encourages thousands of desparate people to try to sail and paddle and swim out to be picked up

Field hospitals much better

Security in Haiti is always a nightmare- now it will be sheer hell


22 posted on 01/13/2010 6:54:29 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: Petronski

Maybe not- if it encourages thousands of desparate people to try to sail and paddle and swim out to be picked up

Field hospitals much better

Security in Haiti is always a nightmare- now it will be sheer hell


23 posted on 01/13/2010 6:54:39 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: Petronski

Maybe not- if it encourages thousands of desparate people to try to sail and paddle and swim out to be picked up

Field hospitals much better

Security in Haiti is always a nightmare- now it will be sheer hell


24 posted on 01/13/2010 6:54:42 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: Patriot1259

Right now they need people to dig through the rubble.


25 posted on 01/13/2010 6:55:56 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: AD from SpringBay
Prayers and support for the island's people.

In Haiti, the major religion is voodoo. They will be praying to a different God.

26 posted on 01/13/2010 7:01:11 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Patriot1259
Haitians eat dirt to survive. They make little cakes out of it and actually sell it, buy it, and eat it. That's how freaking poor these folks are. This is the last thing they needed. This is in our backyard. We should not allow this and we should do something to help them during this crisis, something fairly large scale. Just my opinion of course.
27 posted on 01/13/2010 7:01:42 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!)
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To: aimhigh

Then how about YOU pray for them?


28 posted on 01/13/2010 7:07:19 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

# Roman Catholic priest in France says archbishop of Port-au-Prince killed in #Haiti quake - AP 3 minutes ago from BreakingNews Headquarters


29 posted on 01/13/2010 7:11:42 AM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Then how about YOU pray for them?

Why do you assume I haven't?

30 posted on 01/13/2010 7:19:24 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Patriot1259

One of my bosses just said the best thing we can do for Haiti right now is to just go there, take over, and make them a state/commonwealth.


31 posted on 01/13/2010 7:23:12 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: fatnotlazy
Haiti sounds a lot like Detroit.
32 posted on 01/13/2010 8:15:43 AM PST by Wahoo82
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To: silverleaf

ZULU-You and Fat not lazy may have something here. My suggestion is to turn it into a 50-year protectorate. Remove all females of child bearing age(and younger) and transfer them throughout the 25 french-speaking countries(including the US). We then turn it into a penal colony, emptying our jail cells. 50 years down the road we turn the country over to it’s rightful owners the Dominican Republic.


33 posted on 01/13/2010 9:17:46 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Wahoo82

Detroit is becoming Haiti.


34 posted on 01/13/2010 9:59:49 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: thefactor

We have a large Haitian community in Miami, they run businesses, these are the people who should be running Haiti.


35 posted on 01/13/2010 10:03:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Was Haiti at one time a Spanish colony? A British one?

Why is it that in the year 2010, people still live in tin shacks, do without electricity and eat mud? What the hell has gone on in that country in the last 80 years?!


36 posted on 01/13/2010 10:19:05 AM PST by Joan912 (currently amoungst the ranks of the unemployed...)
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To: Mercat
Will it be 3 days before O responds?

He has already responded so it must not have been and isolated extremist, alleged earthquake.

37 posted on 01/13/2010 10:21:39 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Joan912
The Duvaliers helped destroy their own people. A visiting nun, when she saw the obscene difference between how the rich lived and how the poor lived, promptly threw up. The Duvliers were only gotten rid of by allowing them to leave loaded with what was left of the wealth of the country.

At a certain point in the downward spiral, poverty becomes irreversible without outside help. Maybe Haiti will get that help now.

38 posted on 01/13/2010 10:42:58 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Joan912
This is just from memory, so I could have a mistake, but this is the bit of Haitian history I know:

France owned Haiti. It was a significant french holding in the middle of the Carribean.
There was a slave revolt around 1801 and the French were driven out.
At that time, Napoleon needed money, and he knew that the loss of Haiti as a staging area was very serious. Napoleon came to the conclusion that the Louisiana territory was no longer sustainable.
Napoleon sold Louisiana to Thomas Jefferson because of the slave revolt on Haiti.
Haiti has been independent for over 200 years.

It should be noted that Haiti is half of an islnd (Hispaniola). The other half consists of the Dominican Republic.
The Dominican Republican was owned by Spain, but was taken over by Haiti in about 1820.
The Dominican Republic became independent in about 1840. The Domincan Republic has been independent for less than 200 years.

Haiti is desperately poor and the Dominican Republic is not. It's not the land. It's not the climate. They are on the same island.

This is perhaps the world's best example that government (and government corruption) is the difference between a nation's success or failure. Haiti has never been well served by its politicians.

39 posted on 01/13/2010 10:53:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Patriot1259; All

Breaking news on NBC the Haitian Ministry is reporting hundreds of thousands could be dead...


40 posted on 01/13/2010 11:01:13 AM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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To: Joan912

Vasts amounts of money and assistance has been sent for years to Haiti with little results. I understand Bill Clinton was appointed this past year to oversee Haiti in some capacity, perhaps he will use his clout to get something done so these people have a functioning Gov. that will stop the extreme corruption there and throughout the area.

But it has been tried before without favorable results...those who have attempted to help are often times driven off. So to do that some form of military presence would be necessary I would think, in order to jumpstart the country on it’s feet, if it’s possible to recover at all.

Additionally there is a dangerous practice of extreme and damaging Voo-Doo practices throughout that affect the majority there. Many religious organizations on the island over the years have shared reports of this stronghold on people. Stories that have come out, would send chills up anyones back. It is a dark place in that respect, and the peoples mental and social abilities are vastly stunted for that.

Certainly all are greatly concerned for the people there, but far more than a rescue needs to be done for Haiti. It wil be years of much hard work and labor intensive to bring this country and it’s people back from this, to resemble any degree of normality...no matter how one defines that word. The question..who will be up to the task once the debri is removed and bodies buried??

May God find a way thru all this rubble of disaster and reach these peoples hearts and minds as well.


41 posted on 01/13/2010 11:12:23 AM PST by caww
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