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Even If Brown Wins..Dem’s Still Have Plenty..Options Pass ObamaCare….Need To Keep..Eyes On The Ball
Flopping Aces ^ | 1-16-10

Posted on 01/17/2010 10:30:50 AM PST by STARWISE

Really good post by Rick Moran today in which he details what the Democrats options are if Brown wins. That’s not a sure thing and many conservatives should remember this.

Anyhoo….Rick:

The panicked Democrats are thrashing about trying to come up with a way to save health care reform if Republican Scott Brown wins the special election in Massachusetts on Tuesday to fill Ted Kennedy’s seat.

The first scenario involves challenging the results of the election, no matter how much Brown wins by. The Democrats have already deployed their crack team of election law lawyers who will attempt to muck up the process of counting the ballots, challenging machine counts, trying to force a recount if the result is close enough, and generally throwing a monkey wrench into the proceedings.

The Massachusetts Secretary of State must certify the results within 10 days of the election.

This means that he won’t be seated until the end of January at the earliest and unless he wins big, he will probably be delayed even further meaning the caretaker of that seat will remain there when ObamaCare is brought up for a vote.

Rick then quotes Jonathan Chait at TNR who gives 3 options. Hold the vote before Brown is seated, have the House pass the Senate version and then use a reconciliation bill to implement the bill, and the last option is to flip Snowe.

Rick again:

The Maine senator may very well end up voting for the revised package since, according to Chait, all of her concerns about the bill have been met. Her calculation now is purely political; how badly does she want to remain in the Republican party? ~~~

If the Democrats were to employ reconciliation in getting health care reform passed, the Republicans would have no choice but to bring the senate to a standstill. If they didn’t, the Democrats would be able to ride roughshod over them for the rest of the year, not to mention destroying the principle of minority rights. It is a scorched earth option that the Democrats use at their own peril.

The only other option the Democrats have is to vote to get rid of the filibuster entirely. This, I don’t see happening. Saner heads in the party realize that they will not always be in the majority and that the filibuster is a useful tool to block legislation.

So don’t think for one minute that a turning tide in Massachusetts means we can just sit back and bask in the glory. There are still plenty of tricks up the sleeves the slimy politicians.

The key will be when Brown is seated, and I see challenge after challenge coming from the fatcat lawyers the Dem’s are sending to the state.

But….the first thing that needs to be done is to ensure a large Brown victory, and THEN we will deal with the typical corrupt trickery from the Democrats.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: dems; marthacoakley; massachusetts; obamacare; pelosireid; scottbrown

1 posted on 01/17/2010 10:30:53 AM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

When can we just ________ them? Inquiring minds want to know.


2 posted on 01/17/2010 10:36:26 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Again st Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member RA))
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To: STARWISE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2429987/posts


3 posted on 01/17/2010 10:37:58 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Candor7

Apparently for the same reason that people can’t stop posting this story again and again and again


4 posted on 01/17/2010 10:38:13 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Candor7

It just translates to more bribes that 0 has to deal out.
More time listening to cry babies who now know they will
loose in November. The will have hands out for deals:
Supreme Court positions for sale,
Sec of Treas is open,
Not interested in that then 100 million here,
500 million there.

Votes are going to get very expensive for 0


5 posted on 01/17/2010 10:42:29 AM PST by updatedscreenname
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To: bigbob
This is an initiative designed t convince Reopublicans that the Brown victory will be meaningless. More propaganda.

You can always tell when we are over the target.

JUST DROP THE BOMBS!!!!

I think that RINOS actually want Brown to lose. They won't have to confront the Obama Junta , of whom they seem terminally afraid.

MA will vote for freedom. About time, they have been effing the rest of the country for years using Mary Jo Kennedy and Bawney Fwanks. They owe us big time.

6 posted on 01/17/2010 10:47:17 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Again st Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member RA))
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To: STARWISE

I received this via email

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If anyone wonders about our current Congress and especially the House of Representatives this youtube will open their eyes. Watch this, then cry.

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7 posted on 01/17/2010 10:50:48 AM PST by flyover
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To: updatedscreenname
I can hardly wait until Obama tries to sell his d__k for votes. Michelle be all over his sh_t like Tiger Wood's wife.

Imagine Michelle ma belle pursuing Obama down the WH lawn with a garden rake.

I sort of like Michelle these days. She's the hammer that will ruin Obammer.

8 posted on 01/17/2010 10:52:35 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Again st Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member RA))
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To: STARWISE

The nuclear option will take more time, but this sorry bunch of Democrats will do it, if necessary. ...The flip side of that comes in 2010, when Republicans might possibly get the Senate by a slim majority. Democrats will already have done the dirty deed of instituting the nuclear option. Come 2012, and the expulsion of Obamao’s Marxist Syndicate, the treachery of the Democrats might work for us. ...Just speculating.


9 posted on 01/17/2010 11:15:39 AM PST by pallis
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To: STARWISE

IMO, Dems can use the nuc option in addition to endlessly recount absentee ballots similar to Bush 2000 run.


10 posted on 01/17/2010 11:23:33 AM PST by duckman (My Grandma Isn't Shovel Ready!)
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To: bigbob

Send “the people” to the election lawyers place of business for a serious protest every single day of the 10 day period. It is time to give them back the same medicine they have been using on us


11 posted on 01/17/2010 4:17:15 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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