Posted on 02/01/2010 9:26:44 PM PST by bloodmeridian
I was in need of some spiritual guidance yesterday in mass. Somewhere along the way these past few months I’ve let grow within me some apparent childish mid-life crisis, and in recent weeks have been a public arse to people at work, friends I’ve known for more than a decade, members of my family, and people who visit my other blog.
I prayed for peace and guidance and, most importantly, forgiveness, acknowledging to God that I need to do a lot more listening and a lot less talking. Imagine my shock when, listening, I heard the lector ask me, along with the rest of the Parish, “to pray that Congress passes much needed health care reform legislation …”
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We must belong to the same parish, because it got mentioned in the homily.
ugh.
Is your parish SEIU?
//jk
ugh.
Is your parish SEIU?
//jk
My father was pretty liberal, but not when it came to the defense of freedom from Communists. I recall that in the late 1960’s, a priest delivered a sermon that was very anti-war for all of the wrong reasons, and my dad pulled us out of church right in the middle of it.
It took me many years to realize just how gutsy that was, especially then.
I think the bishops’ conference directed all Parishes to mention it during mass, which friggin’ appalls me to the point of boycotting mass and withholding donations, no matter how it scars my soul.
“We must belong to the same parish, because it got mentioned in the homily.”
Politicians are not the only people with “talking points” made available to them.
NO!!!! but one thing.....I will never give up my Catholic religion for anybody or anything. Never would I turn my back on receiving our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist.
They should keep politics out of the church service, it is very low class to do otherwise. Jesus wasn’t political, and in fact he scolded his disciples who tried to make his ministry political.
I attend mass on a University campus (the most conservative mass in town) and didn’t hear any such plea.
Roman Catholics teaching TENDS to (I know, RC FReepers, it’s not all of you) support the state as sort of a church. It tends to support social programs as charity.
I think it is usually well intentioned. They want everyone to have health care.
However, if they think it through and realize that we will all be taxed excessively and punished with substandard health care, as can easily be proven by the English and Canadian models, they’d let the church help provide health care through the VOLUNTARY donations of its members.
Protestant view, generally, is that charity is the job of individuals, families, and the church - NOT the state. Mainly because the state can’t really be charitable, since its monies are coerced from its people.
When Pastors do not preach Biblical doctrine, most protestant churches are obliged to boot the liars out of the pastoral position. Can Catholics not do the same thing, or do you have to keep listening to the devils tools preach their nonsense?
“Protestant view, generally, is that charity is the job of individuals, families, and the church - NOT the state.”
While surfing the net, I found out that my denomination is for ObamaCare. It doesn’t get mentioned in my church though - they do pretty well at keeping politics out of it.
You think there is ‘religion’ in health care, wait until legalizing all those ‘law’ breakers gets into the political system.
And for those who think Christ was apolitical forget the 5 W’s about why He ended upon that Cross. Christ said ‘feed my sheep’ and but He was not commanding soup kitchens or pass the plate health care. Christ warned US about those who sit in Moses seat, and we are living it in real time, religion included.
It is true, the liberal mainline Protestant denominations tend to support social welfare, too.
I was thinking about the conservative Protestants.
Well put, and completely accurate.
“It is true, the liberal mainline Protestant denominations tend to support social welfare”
One of the many reasons perhaps why their numbers are dwindling.
Word for word, that’s EXACTLY what I heard this past Sunday at my church.
Well, you have a point: Catholic social doctrine was developed as part of negotiations with European governments and it makes large concessions to state power. But it has had to: since the French Revolution, European governments by and large have been very hostile to Catholicism. But the Church by no means thinks of the state as church.
“I was thinking about the conservative Protestants.”
And I’m thinking of Conservative Catholics. Don’t gage Catholicism by it’s misguided liberals.
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