HI Dept. of Health refuses to corroborate that Obama born in Hawaii

The Post and Email ^ | Feb. 19, 2010 | John Charlton

[1234]

... The Post & Email has received documentation establishing without a doubt that the Hawaii Department of Health categorically refuses to corroborate the July 28, 2009 statement of Dr. Chiyome L. Fukino that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a “natural-born American citizen.”...

Since the public statement was made, numerous citizens have attempted to understand and verify the claim made by Dr. Fukino in her capacity as Director of the Department of Health for the state of Hawaii. On each occasion the Department has officially refused to show any documentary evidence whatsoever to corroborate Fukino’s press release...

[1234]

From a reading of researchers' work on FR threads, Dept. of Health doesn't seem to be following administrative rules.

[freeangel]

Hey—any obaminators don’t need to follow any stinkin’ rules—and that includes the whole state of HI

[Diogenesis]

Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.”
It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in.
In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9)
.... there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.”
The statute provided that “the probative value of a ‘delayed’ or ‘altered’ certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year.
(See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.)
In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”

[rarestia]

As the American public grows tired and weary of Der Fuhrer, the din will grow to a roar over the BC issue. I firmly believe that something is being covered up on this; call me a birther or whatever you wish, but why would an administration spend millions of dollars on a crack legal team instead of just handing over a simple document?

Someone lied about something somewhere along the line, and they’re continuing to bury themselves in lies to cover up what may have been a coy misstatement but is likely a conspiratorial cover up to affect a political power play.

[Diogenesis]

All those involved in the coverup deserve to be indicted.

[Haiku Guy]

The Republicans need to elect a Republican Governor of Hawaii who can demand to see the documentation and post it all on the internet. It is ridiculous that we need to go to such lengths to accomplish simple tasks, but there is probably no other way.

[DuncanWaring]

Even if The Won was actually “born” an American, he certainly wasn’t “raised” an American.

[Qwackertoo]

I thought HI has a Republican Gov already and I thought Sarah Palin and her were pals. ???Linda Lingle???

[rovenstinez]

So, if they have it on record, why don´t they just SHOW IT¿

[freeangel]

I’m with you OR he thinks he’ll be able to produce it before the next election in hope that it gives his whole presidency credibility.(what a dreamer)

[Man50D]

All those involved in the coverup deserve to be indicted.

Nancy Pelosi clearly commits FRAUD in the Obama vetting process!

It is obvious that Nancy Pelosi and possibly many other DNC officials knew darn well Obama was illegal when they certified him on the ticket.

The details are right here in Exhibit 1 and 2.

Exhibit 1 clearly has the wording:

THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution:



But Exhibit 2 specifically leaves out the qualifying verbage:

THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively:



So why is this fraud? It is very simple:

Pelosi and the DNC obviously prepared 2 documents but discarded the first in favor of hiding the truth and to CTA (cover their ass). It was the second document (the Exhibit 2 document) that was delivered to the Election Commission and is now of record in forty-nine of the fifty state Election Commission offices, state DNC headquarters, complete with date stamps, matching signatures, even the same Notary of Public authentication, but absent the constitutional text.

Not only is this fraud, it is a conspiracy as multiple people were involved with the cover-up.

[missnry]

MARCH 2009 at Vice President Joe Biden's Gridiron Dinner address:

BIDEN: "You know, I never realized just how much power Dick Cheney had until my first day on the job. I walked into my office, and you know how the outgoing president always leaves the incoming president a note in his desk?" he asked rhetorically. "I opened my drawer and Dick Cheney had left me Barack Obama’s birth certificate."

It could be that Biden wasn't "jokin' around" a year ago!

[lowbridge]

bump

[bossmechanic]

Declaring that a presidential candidate is elegible IS NOT the sole responsibility of one state or representative of that state. Every US state that allowed BO’s name on the ballot is on the hook for dereliction of duty in NOT verifying creds in the first place. I mean really.... taking nancy pelosi’s word on something like this???? Right - and I’ll respect you in the morning too!

[GBA]

“Nobody messes with Joe.”

[Hostage]

Where in the world did these documents come from? If they were covering up the first one with the second one, then how in the world did the first one survive to see the light of day?

I looked keenly at the documents, the titles are the same and the signatures appear to be the same people but not photostat copies of each other. In other words when I make my signature it differs slightly each time I make it and the signatures on the docs you posted show they are indeed separate signings.

So either this is extremely meticulous clever photoshopping or they are real, and if they are real then yes it is fraud.

But the question remains, where did the first one above come from? Why was it not destroyed?

The person who kept the first one must be part of he DNC legal arm, no?

Also did Pelosi realized she was exposing herself to liability by signing the first? Or does she just sign whatever her lawyer puts in front of her? Because when she signed the first and then the second, then it is proof she knew the reason for doing so. And if she knew the reason for doing so, then she would have destroyed the first because it would be a huge fraud she was abetting. She would have insisted that knowledge of the creation of the first document be held at the highest security level of her office and that it be destroyed with no traceability.

[Man50D]

Where in the world did these documents come from?

They come from the parties. Each party fills out and submits a nomination document to each state as standard procedure in a Presidential election. The one with the Constitutional passage is supposed to be sent to all 50 states however, the DNC for some inexplicable reason sought fit to send one nomination document absent the Constitutional passage to 49 states and the original to Hawaii.

[Hostage]

So they screwed up in sending the original to Hawaii?
Wow, just wow!

[MrRobertPlant2009]

There is a Republican Governor in Hawaii.

But don’t let facts stand in the way.

[hennie pennie]

A real live actual newspaper article about the birth certificate. New York Post.