[Tina Grazier]

This is a long read, but it's a good read. Regardless of which side you come down on you are bound to have an opinion.

Being a woman, I have always said that this country screwed up when it gave us the right to vote because way too many of my female friends continually vote with their hearts and not their heads. Like Ann Coulter I would gladly give up my right to vote if we could take it away from the rest of the women of America. Then I don't think we would ever see another Democrat elected to congress, let alone the White House.

[eyedigress]

That was it. Nixon didn’t help either. Women had a voice to share with their husbands. Women many times were the voice of reason when tensions in the political world came to a head. All of that was removed. We are left with the aftermath.

[LukeL]

IMO the 17th amendment was the beginning of the end.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

I’d argue the Republic died the day the 17th Amendment was enacted; no longer did the States have a direct say in the Nation’s capital (the People being represented by the Representatives, the Government by the Executive).

[MistrX]

Shoulda never let ‘em vote.

[muleskinner]

The only reason 90% of leftist women are in Congress or this administration is the 19trh. Pelosi, Boxer, H.R.H. Clinton, that yaping head of pubic hair from Florida, the list goes on...

[Salvavida]

I appreciate your honesty.

I’m divided on the issue. On the one hand, the order of creation and the consistency of the Bible calls for men to be the leaders. But on the other hand, if a nation that once derived its freedom based on the Gospel of Jesus Christ, then walks away from that very principle: the 19th Amendment would not have mattered.

In either case, it certainly doesn’t undermine the importance that women have for the health of society, and the church for that matter.

[trumandogz]

You could get rid of the First Amendment easier than you could the 19th.

[parsifal]

I always wanted to post something like this, but even I didn’t have the guts. Darn good post and something to think about.

parsy, who is scared of women

[BIGLOOK]

Too good to pass up......ping

Sir Thomas Moore sought his wife's advice regularly.

[fr_freak]

I actually made the argument a while back to a lady friend of mine that giving women the vote actually gave them a disproportionate amount of power, because when men were only voting, women still had a lot of influence over their men and therefore were influencing votes. The proof, in my opinion, is the fact that the 19th passed in the first place. Giving them the vote meant they got a vote AND influence over the votes of weaker-minded men.

So my lady friend doesn't say anything about it at the time, but doesn't talk to me for a good two weeks, after which she calls me up out of the blue and says "Did you really mean that?" I said "Mean what?" "That women shouldn't vote." Turns out she was stomping mad about that to the point of wanting to cry and end our friendship. After she told me that, I said, "So you've been mad about a silly conversation we had two weeks ago? Well, there's another reason women shouldn't vote."

So two weeks go by...

[Nateman]

The beginning of the end was the 16th amendment (Income Tax). With no limit on what the Federal Government could take from your labors, the rest of the Constitution was essentially made meaningless. The only real surprise is that the contradiction in values it entailed has taken so long to bring us to this sad point. The Constitution is also unlimited in the amount of debt it can accumulate. That was a mistake from day one but unavoidable due to the costs of the Revolution.

By the way I think a good cure to the problem of liberal women voting would have been to restrict the vote solely to veterans.

[higgmeister]

Seventeenth Amendment has done much more damage than women's suffrage.

[JoSixChip]

Sounds like an after action report. Lot of good it does now.

[greeneyes]

No, it was the 16th, 17th, and the infiltration of the Universities, and Hollywood(and news media) by the communists, Marxists, and progressives that have doomed our country.

The current legislature is composed by a majority of men, and always has been. Congress(mostly males) has passed the laws that are bringing us down, and a male president has signed everyone of the bills into law.

Anyone old enough to remember Hubert Humphrey? Remember seeing him cry when he lost the election? He was a male ya know.

Without the 19th amendment, president Palin would not even be possible. Seems like a lot of men on this forum are counting on her to help save the Union, just like Thatcher helped pull England up into better times.

Speaking of Thatcher, it is well known that she was the one to give GHW Bush a backbone, when she told him “don't go all wobbly” when addressing the problem of Saddam Hussein.

This idea about women causing the problems today is a crock of rot. If you just have to blame someone or thing instead of serious analysis, blame Satan - that at least would be more accurate.

[RobRoy]

I’ve said for 15 years that we have the kind of socialism we have because women have the vote. Women generally value security while men generally value freedom. Women generally favor socialistic policies - especially if those women are single or, worse, single mothers.

And in a nation where women are incented to dump their husbands to the point that over 70% of divorces list the wife as the plaintiff, it’s pretty obvious what is happening in this nation.

Not that we should or shouldn’t give women the vote, but we are reaping what it will.

[Reddy]

Bull oney.

I agree with Benjamin Franklin...
“When the PEOPLE find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

[cydcharisse]

yes

[kittykat77]

I think only landowners (male and female) should have the right to vote — and I do mean owners of land. Owners of condo and coop units need not apply; they’re as unworthy of the vote as renters.

Actually, make that landowners who also own cars/trucks.

Wait, make that landowners who also own cars/trucks and have a minimum investment portfolio of $500,000.

Plus: Voting is mandatory for those who qualify. Miss even one local board of education election or off-year primary and you’re out.

[ColdSteelTalon]

Funny my own mother said it was a mistake to let women vote. I was very surprised when she said that. When I asked why, she said that women were no good at war or politics. Men have better instincts in that department. That men should build the cities, and run the world in general, and that the strongest place for the woman is in the home, and that duty was in so many ways more important anyhow. She also said that women have simply become more like men by being in the workplace competing with men.

I thought "wow"...

[Moose Burger]

I just can’t understand how this topic is always dealt with a serious face. Women can have the 2nd amendment, but not the 19th? I just don’t get it. It sounds like a disparity on levels of trust.