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Sarah Palin talks Canadian Healthcare, tants the drive by media - they get caught in a lie
TheCypressTimes.com ^ | 03/09/2010 | Gary P

Posted on 03/09/2010 10:07:23 AM PST by Patriot1259

If anyone thinks for one second that Sarah Palin is not a political genius, well, they need to think again!

One thing we all know for sure is the democrat party and the media (yes, yes, I know, same thing) hang on her ever word, every action. Sarah Palin can walk out her front door and it makes headlines. Sarah is so far into these people’s heads. She is living there rent free.

Better still, she knows it and is constantly using that to her advantage....

(Excerpt) Read more at thecypresstimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: canada; healthcare; medialies; sarahpalin

1 posted on 03/09/2010 10:07:24 AM PST by Patriot1259
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To: Patriot1259

I read it, it happened in the 60’s. Canada didn’t have national healthcare until the 80’s.


2 posted on 03/09/2010 10:09:56 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Patriot1259

Don’t tant me bro’!


3 posted on 03/09/2010 10:10:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: Patriot1259
Sarah is so far into these people’s heads. She is living there rent free.

She's just putting her degree in journalism to good use.

4 posted on 03/09/2010 10:14:52 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Patriot1259
We know it is a lie, but the problem is that the MSM pushes the lie with no rebuttal. Can't win with this huge communists bunch.
5 posted on 03/09/2010 10:16:38 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Patriot1259
I really like her, her values and what she believes in. When my husband and I were trying to pick a name for our daughter, my first choice was Reagan (for obvious reasons). He shot that one down because of the Exorcist movie. Then we turned to another leader we liked, which was Sarah. But when put with our last name our daughter would have sounded like a loaf of bread. So we compromised on Sophie.
6 posted on 03/09/2010 10:18:53 AM PST by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Patriot1259
tants the drive by media

"Pat, I'd like to buy an 'i'".

;-)

7 posted on 03/09/2010 10:21:45 AM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: MsLady
Canada didn’t have national healthcare until the 80’s.

What? Try '61-'62.

8 posted on 03/09/2010 10:29:00 AM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Charles Martel

Pat says - ooo, sorry, no ‘I’.

How ‘bout a ‘U’ ? :-)


9 posted on 03/09/2010 10:37:43 AM PST by pitviper68
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To: fanfan

Really!!! I thought I just read it was in the 80’s. Canada health care act of 1984. Wonder what that was then?


10 posted on 03/09/2010 10:39:17 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: fanfan

Read the article. I believe it explains the timeline very well.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 10:41:56 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Taint or taunt? Or both? LOL!


12 posted on 03/09/2010 10:47:04 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Patriot1259
Sarah Palin talks Canadian Healthcare, tants the drive by media

I got tanted once and it is not something that I'd ever want to experience again!

13 posted on 03/09/2010 10:54:16 AM PST by Isabel C.
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To: MissEdie

Good choice! I love the name Sophie.


14 posted on 03/09/2010 11:04:50 AM PST by abigailsmybaby
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To: Charles Martel

Get your mind out of the gutter!


15 posted on 03/09/2010 11:05:23 AM PST by BJClinton (0bama is not the anti-christ. Satan wouldn't be such a screw up.)
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To: fanfan

Following quote from the article should have cleared your confusion:

“Here’s the truth: The establishment of the Medical Care Act of 1966 allowed each province to set up their own “universal health care” programs, much like the states are free in America to do whatever they want regarding this sort of thing. The key word being allowed. (not required)

Of course, we know that universal care has been a disaster for every state that has tried it in the United States. Think Massachusetts.

It wasn’t until the 1970’s that Canada had any sort of nationwide “universal care” and it only covered in-hospital care. Doctor visits and other services weren’t covered.

It wasn’t until the Health Care Act of 1984 that Canada had what has come to be known as socialized medicine.”


16 posted on 03/09/2010 11:11:06 AM PST by kp2hot
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To: Patriot1259

Three FAKE media-driven scandals about Palin within a weeks time!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2466850/posts


17 posted on 03/09/2010 11:23:15 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin 2012 Teleprompter Not Required)
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To: Logical me
You were saying ...

We know it is a lie, but the problem is that the MSM pushes the lie with no rebuttal. Can't win with this huge communists bunch.

Well..., not all of what you hear there is a lie. And so you've got to know the whole story, first... :-)



Calgary audience fans of former U.S. VP candidate Sarah Palin? You betcha!

SUN, 07/03/2010 - 3:18AM

CALGARY - Sarah Palin drew a straight line from Alaska to Alberta as she told a sold-out, largely adoring crowd in Calgary that the province gets her message of less government, lower taxes and development of natural resources.

In what was billed as her first Canadian appearance since stepping down as governor of Alaska last summer, Palin's trademark folksy charm was on full display Saturday night.

She joked that her distinctive accent means she's often mistaken for Canadian and that she has two great-grandfathers from Canada, including one from Moose Jaw, Sask.

"That must be where my love of moose came from," she said to laughter and applause.

Palin, who shot to national prominence after being chosen as running mate for U.S. Republican Senator John McCain in the 2008 presidential campaign, also mentioned the Olympics, suggesting that the bobsled is all in a day's commute in Alaska.

She paid tribute to Canada's men's hockey win, noting that the U.S. men's silver is nothing to sneeze at.

"Second place isn't that bad. I've been there."

Palin grew serious when the talk turned to politics, thanking Calgary-based company TransCanada Corp. for its bid to build a pipeline to connect Alaska to Alberta.

She noted the areas have several things in common: good hunting, good fishing and a commitment to developing energy resources.

"We understand how important it is to do responsibly."

She touched on climate change, saying that her skepticism has been proven by several recent controversies and that money shouldn't be spent on "pie-in-the-sky, snake-oil ideas."

The vocal opponent of health care reform in the U.S. steered largely clear of the topic except to reveal a tidbit about her life growing up not far from Whitehorse.

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada," she said. "And I think now, isn't that ironic."

Many in attendance said seeing Palin was like catching a glimpse of a celebrity.

Stephanie Hansen, 18, who wore a pin with Palin's face, could barely contain her excitement. She gushed that she felt out of place among the much older audience.

"I love it, I'm really glad that I came. It was really enlightening."

She admitted she didn't know a lot about Palin's politics, but said she loves her nonetheless.

"I admire how she can have a family and still be able to work as much as she does and everything she does."

A number of Alberta politicians were also in attendance.

Danielle Smith, leader of the right-of-centre Wildrose Alliance Party, faced comparisons with Palin as she ran for the party's leadership last year. Smith said she was greeted by a steady stream of supporters after Palin's speech.

"It was great. I think the themes she was talking about resonate just as much with Albertans as they are with average Americans," she said.

"Free enterprise, the respect for individuals, the fact that we need limited government, these are all the things people are asking for."

Since leaving politics, Palin has spent her time rebuilding her brand in the United States with increasing visibility on the national stage.

She has become a regular paid commentator for Fox News and gave a high-profile address at the first national convention of the "tea party" coalition last month. The anti-establishment, grass-roots network is formed on a premise of anger over the growth of government and President Barack Obama's policies.

She denied any kind of leadership ambitions for the movement, saying that she's told organizers that politicians will always let them down while ideals remain true.

"It's a beautiful movement, it's a conservative movement that's sweeping our nation," she said.

Palin gained a fair amount of notoriety for that speech, being widely mocked for writing crib notes such as "Energy. Tax. Lifting American spirits" on her hand and consulting them during one question and answer session.

She was asked by Senator Pamela Wallin to show her palms after the speech and referenced a passage in the bible that says people's names are engraved on God's hands, saying "if it was good enough for God, it's good enough for me."

In addition to her political speeches, Palin is a paid commentator for Fox News, appeared on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno last week and is apparently shopping around a reality show that would showcase her home state of Alaska.

She's repeatedly refused to confirm whether she would consider a run for the presidency in 2012 and remained coy when asked the question Saturday.

"Don't know what I'm going to do in 2012," she said, adding no matter what happens she'll be supporting candidates who embrace her message of a common-sense approach to government.

Polls seem to suggest Palin doesn't pose much of a threat as a potential presidential candidate.

A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll suggested only 37 per cent of Americans had a favourable impression of Palin, and of those who identified themselves as conservatives, fewer than half said she was qualified to serve as president.

Tickets for the Calgary event ranged from about $150 to $200. About half of the 1,200 people in attendance gave Palin a standing ovation.

18 posted on 03/09/2010 11:54:07 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Logical me
Here's an article explaining the "big-nothing" ... LOL ...



It's Only 9:47 A.M. on the West Coast and We've Already Gotten Multiple Walk-Backs on Part of the Canadian Healthcare Story (Ben Smith Updates)

By Tommy Report

The following claims were made early this morning regarding Palin's comments in Calgary:

Palin, as a young child, lived in a remote community as near to Whitehorse as to any Alaska metropolis.

The nearest city in Canada, Whitehorse, is a 15 hour drive away. Anchorage is only 45 minutes away.

The closest Canadian city is 15 hours away from Wasilla.

Little did these bloggers know that the source from which they were quoting either deliberately or unintentionally left off the fact that Palin clearly said that the story emanated from when her family lived in Skagway. Skagway is pretty close to Whitehorse. Now the fun part is seeing all the walkbacks:

"Palin, as a young child, lived closer to itthan [sic] earlier reported."

"The Calgary Herald has a fuller, slightly different version of the quote."

Ok, it appears that this was when Palin lived in "Skagway, Alaska," which is much closer to Canada.

In any event, the Calgary Herald notes that "Medical Care Act that established national medicare came to Canada" was implemented in 1966." Since Palin did not give any time frame for when this story occurred, it's possible that her family went over to Whitehorse prior to when socialized medicine was implemented in Canada. Also, the Calgary Herald notes too that "it's not exactly anybody's political choice where they receive medical attention when they're less than five years old."

Even if the story occurred after 1966, I'll call hypocrisy the day wealthy liberals give back their Bush tax cuts (if it's not clear, I do not believe liberals who benefited from the Bush tax cuts are hypocritical at all).

Update: I'm hearing from even some Palin adversaries that even though the "Medical Care Act" was enacted in 1966, it wasn’t until 1972 that universal health care could be found throughout Canada. If this is true, then no argument can even be made about "hypocrisy."

Update #2: According to the summary of Canada's health care system by Health Canada, it was only until 1972 that Yukon "create[d] medical insurance plans with federal cost sharing."

Update #3: If Whitehorse is closer to Skagway than Juneau and if the Palins paid for their son's care while they were in Yukon, how is that hypocrisy? If they paid for their son's care in Yukon, then how is she benefiting in a hypocritical fashion from socialized medicine considering that the whole point behind socialized medicine is that you don't have to pay for your healthcare (and I still reject the premise behind the "hypocrisy" argument because of the liberal/"Bush tax cut" logic I cite to above)?

Update #4: Ben Smith adds the point we made in our second update to his original post:
ALSO: Socialized medicine apparently only kicked in in Yukon in 1972, post-Palin.

19 posted on 03/09/2010 11:55:10 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Logical me

Sarah Palin heads north. Er, south. Er, to Calgary.

  By JASON MARKUSOFF
SUN, MAR 7 2010
  It was little surprise that Sarah Palin's first visit to our home and native land (of public health care and gay marriage) would be in Calgary. It also shouldn't be surprising that she was able to curry favour with the local crowd by speaking at length and with much authority about the Alaska government's process of securing TransCanada for the Alaska Pipeline Project.

What was fascinating about the ever-fascinating Sarah Palin's speech was another of her Canadian connections. One that didn't involve hockey.

“My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse (180km away. see map). Believe it or not – this was in the ‘60s – we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn’t that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada."

Given all the politician-turned pundit's warnings about the ills of expanding government role in U.S. health care (see: panels, death), this was, yep, pretty ironic-sounding. Now in fairness, she was born in Idaho and them moved to Alaska as an infant in 1964, two years before the Medical Care Act that established national medicare came to Canada. Several years after universal coverage came to acute hospital care like burns, mind you. But then, it's not exactly anybody's political choice where they receive medical attention when they're less than five years old, to say nothing of the political ideologies one doesn't really develop around that age.

20 posted on 03/09/2010 11:55:41 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Logical me
Skagway and Whitehorse are more connected (even being in different countries) than Skagway and Juneau. The Canadians knew this (and that's who Palin was talking to...) but it was just some stupid Americans who didn't know this... LOL ...

Skagway to Whitehorse is a "natural" and goes without saying...


History of the White Pass & Yukon Route Railroad

Built in 1898 during the Klondike Gold Rush, this narrow gauge railroad is an International Historic Civil Engineering Landmark, a designation shared with the Panama Canal, the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty.

The WP&YR railway was considered an impossible task but it was literally blasted through coastal mountains in only 26 months.

The $10 million project was the product of British financing, American engineering and Canadian contracting. Tens of thousands of men and 450 tons of explosives overcame harsh and challenging climate and geography to create "the railway built of gold."

The WP&YR climbs almost 3000 feet in just 20 miles and features steep grades of up to 3.9%, cliff-hanging turns of 16 degrees, two tunnels and numerous bridges and trestles. The steel cantilever bridge was the tallest of its kind in the world when it was constructed in 1901.

The 110 mile WP&YR Railroad was completed with the driving of the golden spike on July 29, 1900 in Carcross Yukon connecting the deep water port of Skagway Alaska to Whitehorse Yukon and beyond to northwest Canada and interior Alaska.

White Pass & Yukon Route became a fully integrated transportation company operating docks, trains, stage coaches, sleighs, buses, paddlewheelers, trucks, ships, airplanes, hotels and pipelines. It provided the essential infrastructure servicing the freight and passenger requirements of Yukon's population and mining industry. WP&YR proved to be a successful transportation innovator and pioneered the inter-modal (ship-train-truck) movement of containers.

The WP&YR suspended operations in 1982 when Yukon's mining industry collapsed due to low mineral prices. The railway was reopened in 1988 as a seasonal tourism operation and served 37,000 passengers. Today, the WP&YR is Alaska's most popular shore excursion carrying over 450,000 passengers during the May to September tourism season operating on the first 67.5 miles (Skagway, Alaska to Carcross, Yukon) of the original 110 mile line.


21 posted on 03/09/2010 11:56:21 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Logical me
Here's a map showing Skagway and Whitehorse
22 posted on 03/09/2010 11:56:53 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: kp2hot

The Canada Health Act was passed because ever more doctors were opting out of medicare. This act made it illegal to buy or sell doctors’ services in Canada if you are a resident of Canada. This will happen in the US also but immediately. Doctors must be enslaved for this to work!


23 posted on 03/09/2010 12:03:02 PM PST by BillM
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To: Patriot1259

Thanks for posting this


24 posted on 03/09/2010 12:47:55 PM PST by Richard from IL
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To: MsLady; Russ; kp2hot

I sure blew that one, eh?

I knew I had never paid a doctors bill, so glanced at Wiki, and posted.

In my life, whether Ontario had a choice in the matter or not, health care has always been run by the government.


25 posted on 03/09/2010 5:22:44 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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