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My Son's Textbook "Screws" Ronald Reagan and John Paul II
The Lid ^ | 3/11/2010 | The Lid

Posted on 03/11/2010 11:00:57 AM PST by Shellybenoit

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To: Shellybenoit
We live in a very Conservative part of a Conservative State (Texas). My wife teaches at a school named Ronald Reagan Elementary, and my two kids also go there. Her School actively teaches about Ronald Reagan. We (citizens of Cedar Park) also have a BLVD named for Ronald Reagan.

...works for me!

21 posted on 03/11/2010 11:24:31 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul 2012 - Suicide in our time)
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To: Shellybenoit

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22 posted on 03/11/2010 11:27:41 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin in 2012 will see the Potomac from her House)
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To: Shellybenoit

The left abhor Ronald Reagan and John Paul II for the simple fact they looked the USSR in the eye and dared to call it what it always was:

AN EVIL EMPIRE

Two of the 20th centuries greatest men.


23 posted on 03/11/2010 11:28:10 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Shellybenoit
On page 983 it says "both sides believed that they needed to stop the other side from extending its power, rather than a what it was, a battle between the Soviet side wanting to expand its communist philosophy across the world and the west trying to prevent the takeover."

Yid With Lid: You have a wandering quotation mark. I think you meant to put the close quotation mark after power, rather than the takeover. Otherwise you're not saying what you think you're saying.... Plus, you probably want to delete that extraneous a too.

24 posted on 03/11/2010 11:33:06 AM PST by kittykat77
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To: Shellybenoit

It does not end with the history books. Take a look what math is being taught in most states now.

Math Education: An Inconvenient Truth

VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr1qee-bTZI

My second grader’s school district has adopted the “Everyday Mathematics” program shown in this video. It is as bad as the lady is saying, even at the second grade level. My wife with a Bachelors degree and good grades, has a very difficult time helping him with the homework, because quite frankly this crap is hard to understand.


25 posted on 03/11/2010 11:34:20 AM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin in 2012 will see the Potomac from her House)
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To: Shellybenoit
Though it's parenthetical to the topic of Reagan and the Pope being misportrayed and their accomplishments buried, I'm surprised it got past The Lid that the cover graphic of his son's textbook depicts that monument to bloodthirsty Muslim conquest, the Taj Mahal:


26 posted on 03/11/2010 11:37:17 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: epluribus_2
He is not called John Paul the Great for nothing. Changed the course of history. No amount of anticatholic propaganda will ever change that

Sorry. But no. Changed the course of history? Yes. In good ways, but also in bad ways. Really really bad ways. Unacceptable bad ways. Heavily documented and irrefutable bad ways.

What happened to children around the globe in care of the church when he was Pope was not propaganda epluribus_2. It is called pedophilia.

Not only did he and his successors refuse to stop it when approached by victims, to this day the church refuses to do all it can to make things right.

Matthew 18:6 But anyone who is the downfall of one of these little ones who have faith in me would be better drowned in the depths of the sea with a great millstone round his neck.

Mark 9:42 'But anyone who is the downfall of one of these little ones who have faith, would be better thrown into the sea with a great millstone hung round his neck.

The concept is important enough that it is recorded twice in the Gospels.

The Catholic church could very easily form an order to care for those who were damaged in it's care, and that would be orders of magnitude more helpful than monetary payouts. But to this day they refuse to do so on any significant scale.

27 posted on 03/11/2010 11:38:09 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Shellybenoit

*sigh* I miss JPII, Ronald Reagan, Lady Thatcher. The good old days when world leaders were mature, honest, self-giving statesmen/women of integrity.

Confident courageous leadership that combined to "tear down this wall!

28 posted on 03/11/2010 11:40:52 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Shellybenoit

This topic caught my attention this year, too - my son is in 6th grade and there was a chapter on the Cold War - there was NO mention of President Reagan NOR Pope John Paul II NOR PM Margaret Thatcher, but Gorbachev is in there and it is written to make it look like Gorbachev is the reason the Cold War ended.

The good thing about this is I pointed out this glaring omission to my son, who is well aware that Pres. Reagan was a great President. We are teaching him to think for himself and to question why they would exclude an important aspect like this.

This is just another example to abolish the Dept of Education.


29 posted on 03/11/2010 11:42:46 AM PST by KEmom (Please send viable Conservative candidates to Massachusetts!!)
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To: NavyCanDo

I do not like the “Everyday Math” at all.

My son is now struggling in math with this crap when he had been excelling.


30 posted on 03/11/2010 11:44:54 AM PST by KEmom (Please send viable Conservative candidates to Massachusetts!!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Not one bit of innuendo. See post 27.

You will not today or any other day defend John Paul II without also having to defend bth the pedophilia that occured under his watch and his refusal to make those who were harmed whole.

Several groups of those harmed petitioned him directly. This is not going away and neither you personally nor anyone else can separate the good things he did from this very, very inexcusable thing.

If the Catholic Church chooses to beatify him in the face of this it will have a very tough time justifying it to the rest of the world. It will be pretty much continuing to say what happened in Ireland and Boston and across the globe really, is okay.


31 posted on 03/11/2010 11:46:59 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: utherdoul

depends on which part of the net they go to


32 posted on 03/11/2010 12:02:17 PM PST by the long march
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To: KEmom
“I do not like the “Everyday Math” at all.”

There is nothing “everyday” about it. We're stuck after-schooling him with much better books.

And spelling? Spelling is now a very low priority for them. They figure we all have spell check now so it is not important. He gets 1 or 2 out of 10 words correct each week when he has his spelling test - and the teacher is not concerned.

33 posted on 03/11/2010 12:02:51 PM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin in 2012 will see the Potomac from her House)
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To: Michael.SF.

Um, I took it to mean that the text said the both sides portion while the article writer was making an aside as to what the battle really was


34 posted on 03/11/2010 12:04:36 PM PST by the long march
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To: Misterioso
This article is without merit, whatever shortcomings the book has.

I concur. The textbook may very well suck, but you wouldn't know it from anything shown at the link.

35 posted on 03/11/2010 12:22:20 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: MrEdd
Wow, you place a heavy burden of accusation at the feet of Pope John Paul II. The Catholic Church teaches that the Pope, the Bishop of Rome, is the successor to Saint Peter. All of the bishops around the world are the successors to the Apostles, who themselves lead the faithful in their local Churches. John Paul II courageously led the Bishops of the world toward living an authentic Catholicism, one 'not of this world' but radically different, one that truly took up the cross and followed Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, not all Bishops followed him. The secular world's politically correct culture influenced them more.

Pope John Paul II appropriately called our secular society "a culture of death". His first public teachings in his General Audiences as Pope began in September, 1979 and have been collected and taught as The Theology of The Body. He presented an integrated vision of the human person - body, soul, and spirit - with an emphasis on our sexuality and God's most beautiful original design. These teachings are truly a beautiful treasure and gift for the world and Church.

Unfortunately, the human beings (yes, priests are human too) that make up the Church have free will and are "in the world". For some, that also conspired to make them "of the world". The depravity of the secular world's twisting of the gift of our sexuality infected some of our priests. IMO, the "fault" for that lies mostly at the feet of various local Bishop's not Pope John Paul II. The Bishops who were orthodox, traditional and followed the lead of Pope John Paul II mostly did not have the homosexuality (it was not by and large 'pedophilia'; do some reading of the facts [USCCB: A Report on the Crisis in the Catholic Church in the United States] rather than buy the MSM line) problems with priests in their diocese that the liberal dissenters did.

The life and example of Pope John Paul II actually led to less problems in the Church with homosexual priest's abuse of children and young people (tons more has occurred AND CONTINUES in public schools and with pastors in other faith traditions) than would have been without his example and shepherding. God will be the judge of that too, rather than us.

36 posted on 03/11/2010 12:40:02 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Shellybenoit

Collect History Text books and History Books printed prior to 1913 and you’ll see how those living in closer proximity to our Founding Fathers wrote about US History.

I’ve collected a dozen, some are grade school and some are high school. They present a very Pro USofA picture.


37 posted on 03/11/2010 12:44:17 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: MrEdd

Oh and btw, if the Catholic Church beatifies Pope John Paul II the Great, it won’t spend one second thinking about “justifying it to the rest of the world”. LOL.


38 posted on 03/11/2010 1:06:49 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Poor Pope John Paul II. He just had no authority to discipline the hierarchy, aid the victims, or address the flock.

Lets see, you post a paper by a bishop's conference that is supposed to explain it all away. And you wish others to see this as an unbiased presentation, as if it had been produced by an uninvolved party out of one side of your mouth, while from the other side of your mouth comes this little gem "rather than buy the MSM line" in which, absent any knowledge you attempt to float an assumption that all of my knowledge of this must stem from the MSM. That absolutely is not going to fly. I have had knowledge of this since long before the press switched sides and began exposing pedophiles - which Internet competition forced them to begin doing in the 90s. I will also note that government investigations confirm the press reports - but my primary source has been and continues to be people who were abused as children.

You floated that there was a lot of stuff that didn't amount to pedophilia. That's true there was, and that is it's own topic - I am addressing the pedophilia specifically and there was still a lot of it. For the record, while much of the press has focused on homosexual pedophiles, there was plenty of good old heterosexual pedophile abuse as well, and my post did not single out the homosexual variety specifically. You can go on about the gays in the priesthood all you want, but that is outside of the topic I am bringing to the fore and I won't really brook your attempt to change the topic of debate.

Next you brought up the topic of predators in schools. There are plenty there, and also within the mental health profession and within law enforcement. Anywhere a predator can gain some semblance of authority to shield their actions. That does not, however excuse the church anymore than Eve's sin excused Adam. You paralleled Adam's attempted defense extremely well.

You did not address at all the continued failure of the church to provide actual help for those that were harmed. Indeed, as of yet there is nothing for you to say.

As for your other post, well absent a thourough and contrite effort to make amends to those harmed, the church absolutely will be judged in the public square. While this concept is evidently foreign to your way of thinking, the people who were helpless children years ago, and had no way to make it stop, are now grown and the church has no way to make them, or those who take their part shut up.

What goes around comes around, or, to put it another way - You reap what you sew

It's harvest time. Maybe making restitution would be a much better strategy for the church than the self righteous bluster you personally are attempting.

39 posted on 03/11/2010 2:09:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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