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Sarah Palin's Folly: Stumping For John McCain (Does Personal Loyalty Trump Conservatism?)
Policial Insomniac ^ | 03/28/2010 | Dan Cleary

Posted on 03/28/2010 6:05:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

One of my very favorite bloggers on the Right - Powerline's John Hinderaker - wrote a post earlier today entitled 'Biker Girl Campaigns for McCain'. By Hinderaker's own admission, his sole motivation for writing it was to show a perfectly gratuitous photograph of Palin looking great in a black leather biker jacket on the campaign trail.

No complaints there.

However, I have a bone to pick with the rest of John's comments:

Sarah Palin was in Arizona yesterday, campaigning for John McCain in his primary contest against former Congressman J.D. Hayworth. This was an appropriate demonstration of loyalty toward the man who opened the door to fame and fortune for her. Beyond that, Palin's support McCain is right on the merits and displays her almost unerring judgment in political matters.

Like most conservatives, I sometimes disagree with John McCain, and on those occasions he can be an infuriating opponent. But he describes himself as a "proud conservative," and that's how he votes a large majority of the time. Moreover, while he is an imperfect Republican, McCain is a great man. He is a warrior, one of the staunchest characters ever to participate in politics, a modern-day Andrew Jackson. We need him. If the Republican tent ever grows too small to contain the likes of John McCain, we are in deep trouble.

Moreover, McCain was the party's Presidential nominee just two years ago. The last thing Republicans need to do is to start eating our own, like the Democrats when they drummed Vice-Presidential nominee Joe Lieberman out of their party.

Now, Sarah Palin endorsing John McCain per se is understandable. I still don't like it one bit, but I'll cut her some slack. Remember, she threw in with McCain before conservative J.D. Hayworth entered the race. And with McCain expecting only token opposition from the Democrats in the general election, he was for a time the most conservative man in Arizona's U.S. Senate race - if only technically and by default.

BUT...J.D. Hayworth is in the race now. He is a far preferable choice than McCain for conservatives on many issues, particularly immigration. Meanwhile, Palin has transitioned from merely supporting McCain (presumably out of a sense of loyalty) to actively stumping for the guy.

I thought Palin was supposed to be helping elect conservatives - not campaigning against them.

Furthermore, in this instance Palin is supporting the very man who deserves unique (though not exclusive) blame for putting Barack Obama in the White House, for the following three reasons (at least):

1. McCain-Feingold. The effect of this now officially unconstitutional campaign finance 'reform' legislation was to allow 'non-partisan' (read: radical left) outfits like MoveOn.org to thrive and to bestow massive political influence upon filthy rich liberal donors like George Soros. Think that played a role in Obama's victory?

2. Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka Amnesty for Illegal Aliens). Read this and you'll get a sense of how McCain's convoluted stance on illegal immigration lost him the conservative vote in droves in 2008. Think that played a role in Obama's victory?

3. The Bank Bailouts of September 2008. McCain went out of his way to put himself on basically the same page as Barack Obama when it came to bailing out big banks. In an election year that favored any warm body the Democrats ended up nominating, this gave voters one less reason to not vote for Barack Obama. Think that played a role in Obama's victory?

Don't get me wrong - I'd probably still support John McCain vs. 'unopposed' or 'garden variety Democrat.' Probably. But J.D. Hayworth is a no-brainer for conservatives vis-a-vis John McCain, and one has to assume Palin would be in Hayworth's corner were it not for the fact that she was McCain's hand-picked running mate in 2008.

So I'll ask the question: Does personal loyalty trump conservative principles for Sarah Palin?


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KEYWORDS: conservatism; hayworth; johnmccain; loyalty; palin; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 03/28/2010 6:05:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sara should have made a token appearance and then said “Adios, Juan”.


2 posted on 03/28/2010 6:08:22 PM PDT by unkus
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To: SeekAndFind
john mccain needs to be put out to pasture. the guy was burping mid sentence when he was talking the day Sarah stumped for him. Nothing wrong with a burp here and there publicly, but geez the guy is beyond ancient when it comes to attitude and archaic in progressive allegiance. He is the walking dead as far as I am concerned.
3 posted on 03/28/2010 6:08:46 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sometimes I think she’s a conservative. Sometimes I think she’s not.


5 posted on 03/28/2010 6:13:10 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SeekAndFind

And AZ Sheriff Joe Apraio backed
Mitt Romney in 08, of Mass. Health Care


6 posted on 03/28/2010 6:13:17 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Baynative

There you have two rotten apples.


7 posted on 03/28/2010 6:14:20 PM PDT by unkus
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To: SeekAndFind

8 posted on 03/28/2010 6:15:43 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind

Sarah is a big girl and can make her own decisions! Only she has to live with the consequences.


9 posted on 03/28/2010 6:16:27 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Lets be at lease fair with our criticism of endorsements....

Tancredo endorsed Romney

DeMint endorsed Romney

Hunter endorsed Huckabee

Thompson endorsed McCain

Gingrich endorsed Scozzafava

Pawlenty endorsed McCain

10 posted on 03/28/2010 6:17:57 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Bratch

The ObamaBots grind out thread 525 against the only Conservative Republican who can beat Obama, Sarah Palin.

With this bunch along with the Left Wing MSM from TV, to Press bashing Sarah Palin, just good to see who on FR are
Pushing for Obama’s 2nd Term


11 posted on 03/28/2010 6:20:05 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: unkus
She is making a perfunctory appearance or two, then he will be on his own. If JD wins, she will campaign for JD. And if Sarah runs in 2012,they both will campaign for her. And Mrs McCain is not without her influence.
12 posted on 03/28/2010 6:20:24 PM PDT by joelt
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Sarah owed McCain something in return for him picking her to run as VP.
She may be making points with mainstream Republicans here, while losing points with conservatives.

But I look at it this way. If not for McCain picking her as his running mate, she would still be sitting in Alaska, obscure and fighting state fights. And the tea parties and conservatives would have no galvanizing spoksperson who commands media attention with even the smallest tweet or facebook posting.

McCain is pretty much on his own and Palin won’t have much effect on his campaign. In effect, she has fulfilled her obligation to John. I can let that slide because there is a bigger prize by keeping her, then keeping John.
My opinion.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 6:20:38 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: o_zarkman44
I completely agree with your post. I don't like McCain but I don't hold Palin’s support of him at this time, against her. She did the honorable and gracious thing. She has a lot to thank him for.
14 posted on 03/28/2010 6:24:16 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: o_zarkman44

If McCain showed up as my XO I would have had him gone in about 30 days. He’s a big talker but a total pussy. I would never let him try to direct real warriors. Real warriors are already motivated, they don’t need some two bit cheese stick talking to them.


15 posted on 03/28/2010 6:26:05 PM PDT by libertyhoundusnr
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To: SeekAndFind
Facts about Sarah Palin (my title)
Via Email | Unknown | [Not unknown. Here it is.] Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman

Posted on Sun 11 Oct 2009 01:18:45 AM MST by Neil E. Wright

"2 - Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So, she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES". Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar."


TRANSCRIPT: Sarah Palin's RNC Speech
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2074322/posts

This was the spirit that brought me to the governor’s office when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau, when I stood up to the special interests, and the lobbyists, and the Big Oil companies, and the good-old boys...When oil and gas prices went up dramatically and filled up the state treasury, I sent a large share of that revenue back where it belonged: directly to the people of Alaska. And despite fierce opposition from oil company lobbyists, who kind of liked things the way that they were, we broke their monopoly on power and resources. As governor, I insisted on competition and basic fairness to end their control of our state and return it to the people.


...supports extra, "early funding for [public] education" (Alaska State).

Governor Palin Signs Domestic Violence Legislation
http://us4palin.com/governor-palin-signs-domestic-violence-legislation/
["Domestic violence,"...little bonus there.]

Palin Speaks to Investors in Hong Kong
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2346270/posts

The Chinese Connection via the CLSA: Sarah Palin Enters the Lion’s Den
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2345119/posts


16 posted on 03/28/2010 6:26:28 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s multi-tasking the kick off of the Tea Party tour. She threw in some digs against Reid, looked good in leather. Oh, McCain was there. No worries, mate.


17 posted on 03/28/2010 6:26:53 PM PDT by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: SeekAndFind

help needed asap. please give what you can ... www.repealthehealthbill.org


18 posted on 03/28/2010 6:27:07 PM PDT by Patriot2020
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To: SeekAndFind
Sarah Palin Is Pro Amnesty For Illegal Aliens - Univision Interview [Old news, 2008]
Diggers Realm ^ | October 24, 2008

Univision: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
Sarah Palin: No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.



19 posted on 03/28/2010 6:27:57 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Brilliant

I believe Sarah was trying to lead John by example, but at this stage in his life, John is not about to break to follow anybody.

John is such a mixed bag, it is a wonder he ever comes up with a coherent message. He does have moments of lucidity, but not as a reliable thing.

Maybe J.D. Hayworth will win on his own merits. Sarah is really doing this more out of loyalty to Cindy than to John.

It’s sure not out of loyalty to the daughter. Now there is a piece of work, and interaction is not productive at all.


20 posted on 03/28/2010 6:28:05 PM PDT by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So much needless obsession with Sarah Palin from those who support her and those who are against her. Both sides are wasting a lot of unnecessary energy. The energy is wasted because many on both sides assume that she is certainly going to be the Republican nominee in 2012, an assumption that is very premature (and stupid) on so many levels.
21 posted on 03/28/2010 6:28:14 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: SeekAndFind
From the recent interview with Greta Van Susteren...

PALIN: "We don't want our Republican -- our senators and our representatives to hold hands with the Democrats if the Democrats are going to keep growing government. And why -- why engage in bipartisanship there if the Democrats are doing the wrong thing? We want our Republicans to stand tall, stand strong for smaller, smarter government, for those principles that so many independents and those in the Republican Party have believed in all these years. We want them to stick with those principles."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,590022,00.html

22 posted on 03/28/2010 6:30:05 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: NavyCanDo

Man, those are two years old at least. This is now. Present day. I would have thought conservatives would have learned something by now.


23 posted on 03/28/2010 6:32:33 PM PDT by raybbr (I hate B(ig) H(ead) Obama)
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To: NavyCanDo

...which is why we have to go with a “throw them ALL out” game plan. And I’m sick of hearing, “that will just guarantee a Democrat victory”. Bravo Sierra.

Colonel, USAFR


24 posted on 03/28/2010 6:35:45 PM PDT by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: familyop

Sarah Palin Is NOt For Amnesty

Palin expands her position on Illegal Immigration

Palin: we need to close the borders. They are called illegal aliens for a reason and if they are not going to follow the rules they should not be in our country.

It’s pretty simple I ratched that one down to the simple answer because its an easier answer than some politicians want it to make it be. you close the borders.

You get more agressive about cracking down on the illegal aliens and we take it serious what our border patrol officers are trying to do


December 2009

Lars Larson radio talk show

LARS: The amnesty proposal that was defeated in Congress — in your view, was that amnesty for illegals and would you back amnesty for a path to citizenship, as the current president calls it?

SARAH PALIN: No, I’m not for amnesty. Let’s ratchet this down quite simply to remember what we’re referring to. Illegal aliens are called “illegal” for a reason.

We need to secure our borders and I am not for amnesty. And there are humane ways to deal with the 11-13 million illegal aliens who are in our country right now, but if they’re not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.


25 posted on 03/28/2010 6:36:49 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Does Personal Loyalty Trump Conservatism?”

I believe many posters on this forum leave the impression that personal loyalty is not a conservative value. I don’t believe conservatives have enough cohesion.

Palin can’t depend only on conservatives, even if she is one. She can’t depend on them to stick with her as a cohesive group.


26 posted on 03/28/2010 6:39:32 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: joelt

Governor Sarah Palin is playing 3-D chess; all other politicians are playing checkers.


27 posted on 03/28/2010 6:41:39 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: SoCalPol
The ObamaBots grind out thread 525 against the only Conservative Republican who can beat Obama, Sarah Palin.

Seriously, no. Frankly, any conservative Republican worth their salt will be able to beat Zero in 2012. DeMint would thrash him up one side and down the other.

That's why I'm a Fun DeMintalist. The most conservative potential candidate right now.

28 posted on 03/28/2010 6:42:22 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My prediction? McCain is going to take a stand against amnesty and will tell Lindsey Graham to drop it too. No doubt Sarah whispered in his ear about this. If McCain does continue to shill for illegals, then Sarah is dead to me, unless she comes out with a Facebook post criticizing it. Until then, I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Even Jim Robinson said he had no problem with Sarah endorsing McCain, and if it’s good enough for the Head FReeper, it’s good enough for me.


29 posted on 03/28/2010 6:44:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

DeMint does not have a national base.
He is not a speaker who will draw crowds and energize them.

This is the 21th Cen and Media is the word.
DeMInt as well as many of the other good old boys come across as funeral directors


30 posted on 03/28/2010 6:45:25 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: unkus
Sara should have made a token appearance and then said “Adios, Juan”.

And this weekend was probably it. I don't look for any more significant involvement with McCain's campaign, and you bet she'll endorse Hayworth if he wins.

31 posted on 03/28/2010 6:50:34 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Regardless of what Sarah Palin does or says, it's up to the voters in Arizona to dump McCain. I hope they do.

There is an infinitely more important election coming along in just over six months. If the Democrats retain control, the country is finished. If Republicans take control and don't defund the Obama agenda the country is finished.

I would like to see Arizona dump McCain. In the end it's their choice, and it's but a pixel in the big picture.

32 posted on 03/28/2010 6:51:05 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
That's why I'm a Fun DeMintalist.

DeMint is a Senator. The electorate is going to be looking at someone from the outside, a Governor or ex-Governor. No way the base elects another Senator for our nominee.

33 posted on 03/28/2010 6:51:36 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: libertyhoundusnr

“If McCain showed up as my XO I would have had him gone in about 30 days. He’s a big talker but a total pussy. I would never let him try to direct real warriors. Real warriors are already motivated, they don’t need some two bit cheese stick talking to them.”


In fairness to McCain’s actual command experience, it seems to have been very effective.

“When his time at the war college was up, McCain was assigned to the Replacement Air Group 174 in Jacksonville. The squadron trained pilots to fly A-7 fighter planes and was the largest Navy squadron in the country, with about 1,000 sailors and 75 planes. It was also among the Navy’s more dysfunctional units. Defense budget cuts had left the squad without resources to buy replacement parts for damaged planes, and nearly 20 had been grounded for more than 60 days - some for years - when McCain arrived.

His first months were spent as the squadron’s executive officer, where he learned to fly the A-7 and mastered the workings of the unit. In 1976, he was made commander of the entire squadron, an unusual promotion given McCain’s limited command experience. The Navy’s policy was to catch up the POWs with their contemporaries, despite their missed years of service, said Adm. Jim Holloway, then the chief of naval operations, and the policy helped McCain get the job. Still, the promotion raised a few eyebrows.

So did McCain’s ambitions. Rather than sticking to the status quo, McCain immediately set about repairing the unit’s ailing planes. When the squadron’s department heads tried to discourage him, he fired them and replaced them with younger, more ambitious officers.

Carl Smith, a flight instructor who was among those McCain chose for leadership, said McCain called a meeting of the entire squadron staff, where he told them that he planned to get every plane running again before his command was up. Smith said there was no reason to think that the goal was achievable, but McCain set his sights high and then sought about convincing the rest of the squadron. After sending a letter informing his commanders of his plan, he made the rounds, visiting every shop and encouraging his pilots and repair crews.

“Just through his marvelous way of motivating people, he turned that squadron around in no time at all and just had everybody pulling together in another direction towards a very clearly defined goal,” Smith said. “People were working overtime. They were coming in to do jobs when it wasn’t their shift. It was absolutely inspired behavior.”

The day before McCain’s assignment was up, Smith flew the last of the squadron’s grounded planes. As McCain describes it in his memoir Worth the Fighting For, the plane was barely ready for the test and flew with its landing gear down, but it flew. That year, the squadron received its first ever Meritorious Unit Citation.”


34 posted on 03/28/2010 6:51:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ( If you guys can stop Palin, Romney will not have any real opposition.)
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To: SoCalPol

DeMint’s not even going to run. He said as much and and also said that he is looking at Romney and Mitch Daniels in 2012. He wants in to the DC “club”.


35 posted on 03/28/2010 6:53:49 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: unkus
Sarah Palin: proving once again that no candidate is 100%,but some will keep looking.
36 posted on 03/28/2010 6:54:44 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: NavyCanDo

You mean everyone is ont 100% conservative all the time—I’m shocked.


37 posted on 03/28/2010 6:55:47 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Al B.

I heard DeMint say the same.

Some of these FReepers have serious problems when a Conservative Republican such as Sarah Palin can win
and they pick a person who does not want to run not
could win nationaly if he did.
Again, they want an Obama 2nd term


38 posted on 03/28/2010 6:59:57 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind
does Mitt's endorsement of McCain ruin his chance of winning the nomination. If not neither does Palin’s.

find me a GOP candidate that has not endorsed McCain then maybe we will talk.

Yawn.

39 posted on 03/28/2010 7:00:20 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: Bratch

My daddy use to say Never kick a dead horse, the horse don’t care and you might break your foot...


40 posted on 03/28/2010 7:01:44 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: SeekAndFind

I will vote for Sarah if she runs... Reagan disappointed me at times too... and he was the greatest!

LLS


41 posted on 03/28/2010 7:01:45 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Wolverine!)
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To: SoCalPol

Logically, Palin should be the GOP nominee. She’s already been vetted so there won’t be any surprises. Did you know that she gets daily briefings on the issues? Come 2012 she’ll be more than ready to run for President. Clowns like Barbour, Pawlenty, and Romney don’t have a chance and they don’t appeal to the conservative base.


42 posted on 03/28/2010 7:07:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yes, besides her own reading and research,as you say, she has a staff both in DC and elsewhere who give her daily briefings,
She is serious


43 posted on 03/28/2010 7:11:00 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ridiculous.

Sarah did what she was obligated to do. That simple. Personal promises mean something — even when you make them to a scoundrel. She acted with character and integrity, and her Conservative credentials should NOT be called into question. Doing so only hurts the whole of the Conservative movement...


44 posted on 03/28/2010 7:12:19 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: SoCalPol

“Again, they want an Obama 2nd term”

Know what? I’m sick of that lie. Because of the same kind of BS, MOST of us swallowed the bile and voted for McCain to stop Obama. Most of us worked our butts off doing it.
So stop it. We did your ‘benefit of the doubt’ nonsense already. Stop lying about freepers. We voted for McCain!
You’re not going to insult us in to defending McCain. You’ve got Palin for that. Live with it.

One of these days you’ll be patting the same people on the back when they agree with you on something else. It’s no wonder the GOP is such dysfunctional trash. You, like McCain, are perfectly willing to stab us instead of Obama or McCain.


45 posted on 03/28/2010 7:14:06 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuntB

It is the same lies and BS about Palin those on FR
vomit out because they are either ignorant, ObamaBots or PaulBots or all of the above.


46 posted on 03/28/2010 7:19:32 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: ansel12
Then he ran for the Senate, was elected and immediately got on the committee investigating the real possibility of many POWs left behind in N Vietnam, held by the NV for possible bargaining tools as NV wanted badly for trade relations with the US.

John McCain together with John F'n Kerry worked like hell to knock down any attempts to rescue them or even further investigation. Reports were delayed at crucial times, the families were stalled and discouraged, papers were sealed and investigators stymied. Hard to believe for a former POW!

Not to mention the nasty fits of his temper toward the families and the insults. Screaming and cursing, shoving old Sen Strom Thurmond...

But the investigation after years ended, not to be reopened. And the US signed trade agreements with Communist Vietnam.

It is a proud motto of the Marines: A Marine never leaves dead and wounded on the battlefield. It is the same for the other branches. Every effort should have been made to find out if any POWs remained there.

He was a prisoner for 6 yrs. an eternity--and long enough for the Communists to use their sophisticated indoctrination to impress the necessity for worldwide Communism on him.

My only question is, who is his control, the one who uses the queen of diamonds?

47 posted on 03/28/2010 7:22:35 PM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: SeekAndFind

Do what I did and go to JD Hayworth’s site and donate if you can afford something.

McCain and Graham-nesty are evil and as bad as liberal democrats.


48 posted on 03/28/2010 7:27:16 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: familyop

How is following the rules of law for a path to citizenship associated with amnesty?

Amnesty forgives law violations. I see no connection.


49 posted on 03/28/2010 7:28:20 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I understand dancing with the one who brought you to the party. It’s time to get sore feet. Forget the dance. Go J.D..


50 posted on 03/28/2010 7:29:03 PM PDT by pallis
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