[muawiyah]

David Koresh (Howell) had a grandmother who belonged to a Church of the First Born congregation somewhere around Tulsa. Bill Clinton's baby-daddy was an elder in the Church of the First Born in Hope Arkansas.

There's more.

BTW, that's a really, really, really small church movement ~ ignore most of the material at the SPLC site ~ they don't go back far enough to get the correct idea about how or when the movement was founded.,P>Knowing it's a really small movement, how probable do you think it is that a spouse of someone currently being touted for President in 2012 has a father who appears to have been a "member" of the same movement?

Pretty weird stuff eh!

[GeronL]

What member is being touted for Prez in 2012?

[GeronL]

strange indeed

[seemoAR]

Never heard of the “Church of the First Born” and I have spent many years living around the “Town of Hope” where the Sinkmaster and the Huckster were spawned.

The people in Hope I have talked to don't know who donated the sperm to Billy Jeff's mama. I have heard several theories as to his identity.