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To: Mr Rogers
If the UK drafted Barry, would he have to serve? Not hardly! US Courts would laugh at their claim. You cannot make someone your citizen against their will. If they refuse to move there or accept citizenship, then they do NOT have divided loyalties.

The country in which a dual citizen resides has primary dominion over that person. (See the Foreign Affairs manual on dual nationality that I referenced above.) So, no, the U.K. could not draft Obama. If he moved to the U.K. or took up extended residence there, they certainly could draft him.

31 posted on 04/29/2010 12:49:08 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The country in which a dual citizen resides has primary dominion over that person. (See the Foreign Affairs manual on dual nationality that I referenced above.) So, no, the U.K. could not draft Obama. If he moved to the U.K. or took up extended residence there, they certainly could draft him.


When Barack Obama was born on Aug. 4,1961 Kenya was a British colony. As a Kenyan native, his father, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children:

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies.

Obama’s British citizenship expired on Dec. 12, 1963 when Kenya formally gained its independence from the United Kingdom.

The Kenyan Constitution specifies that:
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963...

2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963.

As a citizen of the UKC who was born in Kenya, Obama’s father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth and given that Obama’s father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), it follows that Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship after 1963.

However the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya’s Constitution specifies that at age 23, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.

Since Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship expired on Aug. 4, 1984.

The Kenyan Constitution required Obama to choose whether to keep either his U.S. or Kenyan citizenship upon his 21st birthday, which was in 1982. But the Constitution provided him a two-year window for making that choice. So Obama did not lose his Kenyan citizenship until his 23rd birthday in 1984.


36 posted on 04/29/2010 1:31:39 PM PDT by jamese777
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