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Did North Korea Attack Gulf Oil Rig?
ECR ^ | 1 May 10 | EC

Posted on 04/30/2010 9:27:25 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle

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To: Travis McGee
I was smelling a rat days ago, 24-04-10. I saw CNN reporting the Coast Guard saying the rig "sank." Pics and video showed the fire.

2+2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2499767/posts?page=29#29

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2499767/posts?page=12#12

Could be bad luck. Could be "not just" bad luck . . .

41 posted on 04/30/2010 10:40:29 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s what I’m thinking. Probably just an unfortunate short in a wire somewhere.


42 posted on 04/30/2010 10:41:26 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: nysuperdoodle

Iran is increasing its paramilitary Qods force operatives in Venezuela while covertly continuing supplies of weapons and explosives to Taliban and other insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to the Pentagon’s first report to Congress on Tehran’s military.

“If U.S. involvement in conflict in these regions deepens, contact with the IRGC-QF, directly or through extremist groups it supports, will be more frequent and consequential,” the report says.

The report provides the first warning in an official U.S. government report about Iranian paramilitary activities in the Western Hemisphere. It also highlights links between Iran and the anti-U.S. government of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who has been accused of backing Marxist terrorists in Colombia.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/21/iran-boosts-qods-shock-troops-in-venezuela/


43 posted on 04/30/2010 10:58:48 PM PDT by Hypo
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To: Frantzie
“The joke is we have more oil/coal/shale oil/coal diesel and nat gas than the Saudis by a factor or 4 times.”

Yeah but with the dems in power, we actually have NO available oil in the U.S..

44 posted on 04/30/2010 11:11:17 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: Terabitten
Internet hyperventilation aside, does anyone seriously believe the norks could pull this off in the gulf of freakin’ Mexico? The Gulf of Tonkin, maybe, but the Gulf of Mexico? Really?

It's pretty unprotected, what military activity there is is in the eastern gulf, and that's mainly air.

Cuba is on the gulf to you know. Good place to stage out of.

That said, still seems unlikely. I'd believe the Muzzies before NK.

45 posted on 04/30/2010 11:12:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: nysuperdoodle
Worked in the oil industry for 30 years.
I can see several things going to crap that would cause this to happen. It would require people failure and/or equipment failure, have see such on a smaller scale and it was controlled......most of the time. The power of high pressures (5000 to 15,000 lbs) pushing light crude will cause quite a flame at the surface. Bad-assed coincidences do happen in this world, this is probably one.
However, with things as they are, I can not rule out sabotage completely.
As to what went wrong, it will eventually make its' way through the politicians and lawyers to the oilfield knowledgeable folks. If something stinks, it will be found out.
Don't forget there are 100 guys who survived and will be talking eventually.
46 posted on 04/30/2010 11:16:52 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: nysuperdoodle

Did North Korea torpedo the oil rig? The fact that the Justice Department is sending SWAT teams (used for hostage-type situations) tells me that it’s unlikely that this was the accident we’re being told it was.

Some of the links on this site look a little — shall we say — odd, but this looks like it might be on to something. Was it sabotage? If it was, the government will never tell us.

“Never let a crisis go to waste.” (Rahm Emmanuel.)


47 posted on 04/30/2010 11:26:37 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: nysuperdoodle
Michael Savage was discussing the possibility of sabotage tonight and he had callers who worked in the industry who said the ship had seven (7!) layers of redunadant security. Taht they could hve all failed is such a longshot as to make it unbelievable. Check http://www.michaelsavage.com for his link on this topic.
48 posted on 04/30/2010 11:29:24 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States. Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War. To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles). On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen. To the reason for North Korea attacking the Deepwater Horizon, these reports say, was to present US President Obama with an “impossible dilemma” prior to the opening of the United Nations Review Conference of the Parties to the Treat on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) set to begin May 3rd in New York. This “impossible dilemma” facing Obama is indeed real as the decision he is faced with is either to allow the continuation of this massive oil leak catastrophe to continue for months, or immediately stop it by the only known and proven means possible, the detonation of a thermonuclear device. Russian Navy atomic experts in these reports state that should Obama choose the “nuclear option” the most viable weapon at his disposal is the United States B83 (Mk-83) strategic thermonuclear bomb having a variable yield (Low Kiloton Range to 1,200 Kilotons) which with its 12 foot length and 18 inch diameter, and weighing just over 2,400 pounds, is readily able to be deployed and detonated by a remote controlled mini-sub. Should Obama choose the “nuclear option” it appears that he would be supported by the International Court of Justice who on July 8, 1996 issued an advisory opinion on the use of nuclear weapons stating that they could not conclude definitively on these weapons use in “extreme circumstances” or “self defense”. On the other hand, if Obama chooses the “nuclear option” it would leave the UN’s nuclear conference in shambles with every Nation in the World having oil rigs off their coasts demanding an equal right to atomic weapons to protect their environment from catastrophes too, including Iran. To whatever decision Obama makes it remains a fact that with each passing hour this environmental catastrophe grows worse. And even though Obama has ordered military SWAT teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped, this massive oil spill has already reached the shores of America and with high waves and more bad weather forecast the likelihood of it being stopped from destroying thousands of miles of US coastland and wildlife appears unstoppable. And not just to the environmental catastrophe that is unfolding the only devastation to be wrecked upon the United States and South Korea by this North Korean attack as the economic liabilities associated with this disaster are estimated by these Russian reports to be between $500 Billion to $1.5 Trillion, and which only a declaration of this disaster being an “act of war” would free some the World’s largest corporations from bankruptcy. Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th report titled “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack” and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took “gratifying revenge” on South Korea. And for those believing that things couldn’t get worse, they couldn’t be more mistaken as new reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic “Rodong” missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to “deploy and detonate” an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the American economy for years, if not decades, to come. © May 1, 2010 EU and US all rights reserved

Found it on Savage website and click on title
49 posted on 04/30/2010 11:40:01 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246
Sorry :=( A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

To the reason for North Korea attacking the Deepwater Horizon, these reports say, was to present US President Obama with an “impossible dilemma” prior to the opening of the United Nations Review Conference of the Parties to the Treat on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) set to begin May 3rd in New York.

This “impossible dilemma” facing Obama is indeed real as the decision he is faced with is either to allow the continuation of this massive oil leak catastrophe to continue for months, or immediately stop it by the only known and proven means possible, the detonation of a thermonuclear device.

Russian Navy atomic experts in these reports state that should Obama choose the “nuclear option” the most viable weapon at his disposal is the United States B83 (Mk-83) strategic thermonuclear bomb having a variable yield (Low Kiloton Range to 1,200 Kilotons) which with its 12 foot length and 18 inch diameter, and weighing just over 2,400 pounds, is readily able to be deployed and detonated by a remote controlled mini-sub.

Should Obama choose the “nuclear option” it appears that he would be supported by the International Court of Justice who on July 8, 1996 issued an advisory opinion on the use of nuclear weapons stating that they could not conclude definitively on these weapons use in “extreme circumstances” or “self defense”.

On the other hand, if Obama chooses the “nuclear option” it would leave the UN’s nuclear conference in shambles with every Nation in the World having oil rigs off their coasts demanding an equal right to atomic weapons to protect their environment from catastrophes too, including Iran.

To whatever decision Obama makes it remains a fact that with each passing hour this environmental catastrophe grows worse. And even though Obama has ordered military SWAT teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped, this massive oil spill has already reached the shores of America and with high waves and more bad weather forecast the likelihood of it being stopped from destroying thousands of miles of US coastland and wildlife appears unstoppable.

And not just to the environmental catastrophe that is unfolding the only devastation to be wrecked upon the United States and South Korea by this North Korean attack as the economic liabilities associated with this disaster are estimated by these Russian reports to be between $500 Billion to $1.5 Trillion, and which only a declaration of this disaster being an “act of war” would free some the World’s largest corporations from bankruptcy.

Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th report titled “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack” and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took “gratifying revenge” on South Korea.

And for those believing that things couldn’t get worse, they couldn’t be more mistaken as new reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic “Rodong” missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to “deploy and detonate” an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the American economy for years, if not decades, to come.

© May 1, 2010 EU and US all rights reserved
50 posted on 04/30/2010 11:42:12 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: Frantzie

It’s been 43 years since any similar event.


51 posted on 04/30/2010 11:48:20 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: nysuperdoodle

I love conspiracy theories but after 27 years in the offshore oil industry, I just dont buy this one.

The rig crew had cemented the casing and displaced to a light fluid to pressure test and thereby losing a barrier.

They had a channel in the cement and it came back at them. They tried to shut the BOP and they had a running tool which wouldnt shear over the shear ram. If they could have shut the BOP it would have been a standard procedure to kill the well and bleed off the gas.

A similar incident occurred in the north sea some years ago but they were lucky and had no explosion.

It was just plain unlucky and statistically something that occurs in our industry every so many years just like a helicopter crash.

Incidents or accidents on rigs often involve human error or defective equipment. It could have been a combo of the two here. I dont believe it was a death wish on the part of the driller or sabotage.


52 posted on 04/30/2010 11:53:10 PM PDT by oilfieldtrash
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To: nysuperdoodle

Mark Levin had a guy call in tonight that was on the rig.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930#

They had a “kick”, or Gas bubble that came up the stack and was ignited some how.


53 posted on 05/01/2010 12:38:32 AM PDT by Hypo
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To: Frantzie

You are right, Obama is not a lightweight destroyer of the United States.

I think Obama is centrally a Marxist (communist) but, like Russia, he uses his radical Mulsim anti-American connections to help bring down the US on behalf of the global communist movement.


54 posted on 05/01/2010 1:18:34 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Joe 6-pack

and oklahoma city...


55 posted on 05/01/2010 7:09:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: CyberAnt; All

Report out of Kremlin (military) states that North Korean mini-sub sank the rig

http://patdollard.com/2010/04/european-union-paper-kremlin-report-says-north-korea-torpedoed-louisiana-oil-rig-obama-ordered-media-blackout/


56 posted on 05/01/2010 10:17:14 AM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: nysuperdoodle
Interesting article. But I'd reckon there's a 95% chance this was an accident and 100% chance the Kremlin will benefit from increased tension between the US and North Korea and/or between the Obama administration and the people. Just can't trust the Kremlin here.

Still, that remaining 5% chance... the timing is perfectly inconvenient, sabotage cannot be completely ruled out.

57 posted on 05/01/2010 2:31:48 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Hypo; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; thackney; neverdem
Should you have time, listen to Mark Levin's podcast 4/30/2010 beginning about 1 hour 8 minutes (click your mouse to that time) a James talks about 15 minutes about the blow-out. You will find it very interesting. My heart is broken for the energy companies. Just Dang it!

Hypo, thanks for the heads up.

Hopefully this link works.

http://podcast.com/show/11252/

59 posted on 05/02/2010 1:42:47 AM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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bttt


60 posted on 06/16/2010 12:25:46 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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