Posted on 05/08/2010 5:33:06 PM PDT by 2aberro
I see no reason to punish myself unnecessarily (especially in Cowboy where the targets are so darn close) and I hit just as well with the 20 as with my grandfather's 12.
Many people toss the word “karma” around with little understanding of the actual meaning. Another way to explain karma is “as you sow, so shall you reap”!
And failure to protect someone when you have the means is bad karma!
An old I think Jewish saying is also apropos:
Mercy to the cruel, is cruelty to the inncoent.
My hubby of 61 years died four years ago and the reason I need a gun.
Weight,easy to load,least recoil is what I want. Hoping I never need it.
I live in a rural farming area, never any trouble around here,but that could change. Close neighbors, but not close enough if someone is trying to break into my bedroom in the middle of the night.)
I will check out the 410 and appreciate the info.
Imagine three of these heading straight for you:
and repeat after me, "Labs are sweet and gentle dogs . . . Labs are sweet and gentle dogs . . . "
I second that motion. Someone breaks down my front door or back door, they have to go by two dogs who HATE strangers. Best damn alarm system in the world.
If whoever comes through my bedroom window they will be greeted by two ornery cats - part Siamese - and me armed with two brass ewers.
You read that correctly. Ewers.
About 8 in. tall, with rounded bottoms and narrow necks: they each fit in a hand perfectly. Better than brass knuckles. I hit someone alongside the head, they’re dead.
Technically, I suppose she does. We bought the Saiga in the corner at the same time we bought her Walther and it was her name on all the paperwork. She has shot both the pump and the Saiga and is proficient with both. But boys, lemme tell you, she is so incredibly accurate with that little Walther that I feel like I need to be HER backup. Suffice it to say, I make sure I don’t give her a reason to put me on the wrong side of that thing.
I would never provoke a dog that can retrieve an entire country!
Welcome Noob, you sound like a good husband.
I'm a 5'6", 160 pound middle-aged lady. A 12 is a bit much for a lot of shooting, although I can do it, it really beats my shoulder up when I'm shooting heavy loads in a T-shirt.
I shoot both 20 and 28 ga. and have no trouble with either one. My daughter, who is a little skinny 22 year old, used my 20 ga. to shoot her first Cowboy Action match and did very well. She did not complain about the recoil, it did bruise her a little because she did not tuck the butt well into her shoulder on the first couple of shots (she figured it out pretty quick though).
The problem with .410 is that you just can't put as much lead out there. Because fewer pellets will fit into a load, the pattern tends to be both small and thin. And it's a big drop from 28 down to .410 - for that reason it's generally considered an expert's gun for wingshooting or sporting clays.
If you simply can't tolerate 20 or even 28, you might be better off with a short barrel lever action rifle than a .410. If you went that route, I would get a Win '92 in .44 or .357, both large pistol magnum calibers. It will not kick AT ALL and you can put an awful lot of lead out there in a hurry if you get some practice in.
LOL! They’re “Canadas” not “Canadians”. I don’t know why, unless it’s to distinguish the geese from the humans.
I prefer to stand back and take my shots. Two to center of mass and one to the head if needed. It's bound to be messy but I don't want any grappling with a large man.
That will get you style points.
Bookmarking info for when I go gun shopping.
I have a 4YO Golden. For some stupid reason, he has decided the back yard is his and the house is mine. So, he guards his back yard vociferously, but rarely makes a sound in the house.
In fact, when something wakes him up suddenly, he’s mostly a big bundle of fear in the house.
So, I’m not sure what he would do if someone tried to break in at 3am. But I sleep light, my Maverick 88 with an 18 1/2 inch barrel one step and a short reach away. To protect myself, my wife, my daughter, I would take a shot without regard to the dog. (And I’m very attached to that dog.)
Priorities.
The dog buys me the 15 seconds I need to get the synapses and shotgun working. I feed, shelter, and love my dog. Her part of the bargain is to bark her fool head off when the door rattles at night. She thinks it is a fair trade...
A very nice Golden today at the hunting retriever club training day refused to re-enter the water to make her second retrieve despite all the cajoling, pleading, and tossing pebbles near the floating duck that we could do.
On the other hand, my Labs have horrible line manners and this same Golden is always picture perfect.
I'm with you, by the way. I love my dogs, but if my family's in danger and they get in the line of fire, I'm sorry but that's too bad. That's why I've trained them to whoa.
“We used to have a few 12 gauges, and some 20 gauges scattered through the house, along with a 38 special and a Smith M&P.
Unfortunately, they were all lost in a tragic fishing accident.”
I gave all mine to the homeless.....
When I was in Iraq, I sometimes carried a Mossberg with all of the accessories (folding stock, heat shield, etc...), group of Iraqi policemen wanted to know what it was since it did not look any gun they had seen before. Since we were in the green zone, I decided to let them look at it, so I started shucking rounds to empty it. As soon as the policemen heard the distinctive sound of racking of a pump shotgun, they all started smiling and laughing. From what one policeman said, they had never seen in real live pump shotgun, but they had all watched American movies and that sound was the international sound of "Your in a heap of trouble."
Oh yeah.
I’ve seen a friendly family Lab move in the red zone in the blink of an eye, so I know you’re right.
A friend gave me some good advice as to what to be prepared before if I ever need to shoot in the house at 2 or 3 am, or whatever.
He said, in so many words, that in the middle of the night, it’s very dark, and very quiet. When you fire under those circumstances, the sudden combination of the very loud noise and the very bright flash can be surprisingly disorienting. He told me I need to be prepared for that, so I can return to my senses right away.
You know, in case one shot isn’t enough.
I feel for your loss.
I too recently lost the very few weapons that I had. We were moving and the mover lost our firearms. It was a terrible loss.
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