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Does your wife own a 12 ga?
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Posted on 05/08/2010 5:33:06 PM PDT by 2aberro

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To: higgmeister
Both my sporting clay semi-auto shotgun and my Cowboy coach double-barrel are 20 ga.

I see no reason to punish myself unnecessarily (especially in Cowboy where the targets are so darn close) and I hit just as well with the 20 as with my grandfather's 12.

61 posted on 05/08/2010 7:30:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: MontanaBeth

Many people toss the word “karma” around with little understanding of the actual meaning. Another way to explain karma is “as you sow, so shall you reap”!

And failure to protect someone when you have the means is bad karma!

An old I think Jewish saying is also apropos:

Mercy to the cruel, is cruelty to the inncoent.


62 posted on 05/08/2010 7:36:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: Brilliant
I am the wife. LOL

My hubby of 61 years died four years ago and the reason I need a gun.

Weight,easy to load,least recoil is what I want. Hoping I never need it.

I live in a rural farming area, never any trouble around here,but that could change. Close neighbors, but not close enough if someone is trying to break into my bedroom in the middle of the night.)

I will check out the 410 and appreciate the info.

63 posted on 05/08/2010 7:38:45 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: savedbygrace
I figure all three of my girls together could probably drag a burglar. Since they can retrieve a Canada alone, a reasonably sized burglar shouldn't be a problem for all three.

Imagine three of these heading straight for you:

and repeat after me, "Labs are sweet and gentle dogs . . . Labs are sweet and gentle dogs . . . "

64 posted on 05/08/2010 7:38:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: Brilliant

I second that motion. Someone breaks down my front door or back door, they have to go by two dogs who HATE strangers. Best damn alarm system in the world.

If whoever comes through my bedroom window they will be greeted by two ornery cats - part Siamese - and me armed with two brass ewers.

You read that correctly. Ewers.

About 8 in. tall, with rounded bottoms and narrow necks: they each fit in a hand perfectly. Better than brass knuckles. I hit someone alongside the head, they’re dead.


65 posted on 05/08/2010 7:40:05 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: 2aberro

Technically, I suppose she does. We bought the Saiga in the corner at the same time we bought her Walther and it was her name on all the paperwork. She has shot both the pump and the Saiga and is proficient with both. But boys, lemme tell you, she is so incredibly accurate with that little Walther that I feel like I need to be HER backup. Suffice it to say, I make sure I don’t give her a reason to put me on the wrong side of that thing.


66 posted on 05/08/2010 7:40:37 PM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soul mate, CDBEAR. 28 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Since they can retrieve a Canada alone, a reasonably sized burglar shouldn't be a problem for all three.

I would never provoke a dog that can retrieve an entire country!

67 posted on 05/08/2010 7:42:34 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: 2aberro

Welcome Noob, you sound like a good husband.


68 posted on 05/08/2010 7:46:37 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: BARLF
Before I went as far down as .410, I would try out a 20 ga. and a 28 ga.

I'm a 5'6", 160 pound middle-aged lady. A 12 is a bit much for a lot of shooting, although I can do it, it really beats my shoulder up when I'm shooting heavy loads in a T-shirt.

I shoot both 20 and 28 ga. and have no trouble with either one. My daughter, who is a little skinny 22 year old, used my 20 ga. to shoot her first Cowboy Action match and did very well. She did not complain about the recoil, it did bruise her a little because she did not tuck the butt well into her shoulder on the first couple of shots (she figured it out pretty quick though).

The problem with .410 is that you just can't put as much lead out there. Because fewer pellets will fit into a load, the pattern tends to be both small and thin. And it's a big drop from 28 down to .410 - for that reason it's generally considered an expert's gun for wingshooting or sporting clays.

If you simply can't tolerate 20 or even 28, you might be better off with a short barrel lever action rifle than a .410. If you went that route, I would get a Win '92 in .44 or .357, both large pistol magnum calibers. It will not kick AT ALL and you can put an awful lot of lead out there in a hurry if you get some practice in.

69 posted on 05/08/2010 7:49:32 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: Grizzled Bear

LOL! They’re “Canadas” not “Canadians”. I don’t know why, unless it’s to distinguish the geese from the humans.


70 posted on 05/08/2010 7:50:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: SatinDoll
Long distance or even middle distance warfare is always superior to hand-to-hand combat.

I prefer to stand back and take my shots. Two to center of mass and one to the head if needed. It's bound to be messy but I don't want any grappling with a large man.

71 posted on 05/08/2010 7:52:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: BARLF
Forgot to add that you can shoot the '92 accurately from the hip. Just place your left hand index finger alongside the fore-end of the stock and point it at your target.

That will get you style points.

72 posted on 05/08/2010 7:54:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Thanks AAA.

Bookmarking info for when I go gun shopping.

73 posted on 05/08/2010 7:55:56 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: AnAmericanMother

I have a 4YO Golden. For some stupid reason, he has decided the back yard is his and the house is mine. So, he guards his back yard vociferously, but rarely makes a sound in the house.

In fact, when something wakes him up suddenly, he’s mostly a big bundle of fear in the house.

So, I’m not sure what he would do if someone tried to break in at 3am. But I sleep light, my Maverick 88 with an 18 1/2 inch barrel one step and a short reach away. To protect myself, my wife, my daughter, I would take a shot without regard to the dog. (And I’m very attached to that dog.)

Priorities.


74 posted on 05/08/2010 8:02:24 PM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: Tammy8

The dog buys me the 15 seconds I need to get the synapses and shotgun working. I feed, shelter, and love my dog. Her part of the bargain is to bark her fool head off when the door rattles at night. She thinks it is a fair trade...


75 posted on 05/08/2010 8:04:31 PM PDT by Illuminatas (Obama - Dumber Than Bush!)
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To: savedbygrace
Goldens can be funny (they're also cute, devoted, and very obedient, but they can be funny about stuff, and hardheaded too).

A very nice Golden today at the hunting retriever club training day refused to re-enter the water to make her second retrieve despite all the cajoling, pleading, and tossing pebbles near the floating duck that we could do.

On the other hand, my Labs have horrible line manners and this same Golden is always picture perfect.

I'm with you, by the way. I love my dogs, but if my family's in danger and they get in the line of fire, I'm sorry but that's too bad. That's why I've trained them to whoa.

76 posted on 05/08/2010 8:06:43 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: BattleHymn

“We used to have a few 12 gauges, and some 20 gauges scattered through the house, along with a 38 special and a Smith M&P.

Unfortunately, they were all lost in a tragic fishing accident.”

I gave all mine to the homeless.....


77 posted on 05/08/2010 8:12:51 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: RebelTXRose
Ahh, the sound of a pump shotgun.

When I was in Iraq, I sometimes carried a Mossberg with all of the accessories (folding stock, heat shield, etc...), group of Iraqi policemen wanted to know what it was since it did not look any gun they had seen before. Since we were in the green zone, I decided to let them look at it, so I started shucking rounds to empty it. As soon as the policemen heard the distinctive sound of racking of a pump shotgun, they all started smiling and laughing. From what one policeman said, they had never seen in real live pump shotgun, but they had all watched American movies and that sound was the international sound of "Your in a heap of trouble."

78 posted on 05/08/2010 8:13:05 PM PDT by fini
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To: AnAmericanMother

Oh yeah.

I’ve seen a friendly family Lab move in the red zone in the blink of an eye, so I know you’re right.

A friend gave me some good advice as to what to be prepared before if I ever need to shoot in the house at 2 or 3 am, or whatever.

He said, in so many words, that in the middle of the night, it’s very dark, and very quiet. When you fire under those circumstances, the sudden combination of the very loud noise and the very bright flash can be surprisingly disorienting. He told me I need to be prepared for that, so I can return to my senses right away.

You know, in case one shot isn’t enough.


79 posted on 05/08/2010 8:14:54 PM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: BattleHymn

I feel for your loss.

I too recently lost the very few weapons that I had. We were moving and the mover lost our firearms. It was a terrible loss.


80 posted on 05/08/2010 8:16:51 PM PDT by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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