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What Exactly is 'Social Justice?'
The American Thinker ^ | May 16, 2010 | Jayme Sellards

Posted on 05/16/2010 4:12:47 AM PDT by Scanian

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To: Scanian
As the author indicates, the term "social justice" is code for government-sponsored thievery.

Redistribution is Theft

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41 posted on 05/16/2010 7:03:39 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: markomalley
Social Justice:
the respect for the human person
and the rights which flow from
human dignity and guarantee it.
Society must provide the conditions
that allow associations or individuals
to obtain what is their due,
according to their nature and their vocation.

The Problem is between the words Should and Must,
and the application of the word Rights

It is the act of a Christian, in Obedience,
to Give of Self and Substance
But “Society” is not Christian, and Governance is not God
I cannot compel one to give of self and substance
If God gives you Free Will, I cannot remove it without Great Error
A Christian, in Obedience, Serves as they are called to do.
I, and by extension, Governance,
cannot Compel Service without reducing one to Slavery

The use of “MUST” in the definition above
pertains to Society and hence a
varying mix of believers and non-believers,
and a varying degree of Obedience.

Also,
“obtain what is their due”
Is a bizarre concept in Christianity when applied this way.
I OWN nothing, God does
At best I have Stewardship of a thing, for a time
I am due nothing but Death, except through Grace and Repentance
And even that as God's Gift to us.

Society, not Christianity,
has established a Very imperfect mechanism
for “Distributing the Loot”

Christ, Christians, and the Church
Stand as beacons on the hill
To show "Society" that there is a better way

I Must act in Obedience to God's Will toward Me
As I have placed myself under submission and obedience

I Cannot Compel Your Behavior without Great Error
Without You, Yourself, Placing Yourself under God Law
Society to a great degree is comprised by those
who have not done this...

I Give of Self and Substance, in Obedience to God's Will
Society, when Compelled to do so
Is reduced to Slavery

Oh Yes...
Dignity, in this Context, is a bizarre concept also
Submission knows nothing of Dignity

The Founding Father's understood these concept
Separating Church and State
And the early history of this Country is replete with examples of
the consequences of Church compelling Governance
Failing in Submission and Obedience,
causing great harm...

42 posted on 05/16/2010 7:05:40 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: PeterPrinciple
When I visited MT Rushmore and listened to one of the movie presentations I learned our country was established for life, liberty, and the pursuit of social justice.

Good grief. They actually used that phrasing -- life, liberty, and the pursuit of social justice? Some leftwinger obviously got the job to write the script for the little film they play at the visitor center.

43 posted on 05/16/2010 7:12:15 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Scanian

You can have justice or social justice.

Don’t ever count on having both at the same time.


44 posted on 05/16/2010 7:23:45 AM PDT by Jay W
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To: HangnJudge
The Problem is between the words Should and Must, and the application of the word Rights

Well, perhaps you are making the same mistake that leftists make when reading this. (Not, repeat, not accusing you of being leftist in any regard...just saying that you might be making the same error in reading that they do)

Society must provide the conditions…

You will note that it says society. It does not say "the State."

Social justice means that the elderly are taken care of (by society). The leftists pervert that and create government run social security.

Social justice means that charity hospitals are created (and funded by society). The leftists pervert that and create medicare, medicaid, and obamacare.

Social justice means that the poor are fed (through means generated by voluntary contributions), are given a roof over their heads (in shelters run by the Church), and are clothed (through thrift stores run by charities). The leftists pervert that and create food stamps, government housing, and cash welfare subsidies.

Social justice means that society takes care of each other. Those who are in a position to give, do so voluntarily and receive the blessings from having done so. Those who are in a position of need receive the blessings given by those who are in a position to give, realize that they are being given a gift, and are thankful for that gift.

The leftists pervert that and take (at the end of a gun) from those who may have and then make whole classes of people "entitled" (i.e., enslaved) to receive "benefits."

Social justice is a commandment of the Lord. Socialism is a perversion of the devil.

To quote Pope John Paul II,

In recent years the range of such intervention has vastly expanded, to the point of creating a new type of State, the so-called "Welfare State". This has happened in some countries in order to respond better to many needs and demands, by remedying forms of poverty and deprivation unworthy of the human person. However, excesses and abuses, especially in recent years, have provoked very harsh criticisms of the Welfare State, dubbed the "Social Assistance State". Malfunctions and defects in the Social Assistance State are the result of an inadequate understanding of the tasks proper to the State

By intervening directly and depriving society of its responsibility, the Social Assistance State leads to a loss of human energies and an inordinate increase of public agencies, which are dominated more by bureaucratic ways of thinking than by concern for serving their clients, and which are accompanied by an enormous increase in spending…

Encyclical Centesimus Annus, paragraph 48

(Social Justice types absolutely hate when that document is quoted!!!

45 posted on 05/16/2010 7:26:28 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Scanian

The ‘rats mean Socialist Justice.


46 posted on 05/16/2010 7:33:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Scanian
Social Justice is ORGANIZING your life for the good of mankind!

Or at least for Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and the rest of the Socialist ilk who Oboner is trying to emulate!

Seig Phooey!

47 posted on 05/16/2010 7:34:02 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: markomalley

I See...

The Differentiation then is between Society and State

Hmmm.
Individuals Love and Care for Individuals
Neighbors Love and Care for Neighbors
Families Love and Care for Families
Community Loves and Cares for Community

State (ie Caesar)
Having the Temporal Power to Compel (enslave)
Does not Love or Care for things without
reducing “Subjects” to Slavery

OK

The problem is in the confusion between Society and State
If Society is defined by the State,
then Slavery Results
If Society is defined by God,
Obedience, Submission, Kindness, Love, and Caring
Doing Justly, Loving Mercy, Walking Humbly
Become Possible, and as Christians, manditory


48 posted on 05/16/2010 7:41:44 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
The problem is in the confusion between Society and State

If Society is defined by the State,

then Slavery Results

If Society is defined by God,

Obedience, Submission, Kindness, Love, and Caring

Doing Justly, Loving Mercy, Walking Humbly

Become Possible, and as Christians, manditory

I think you and I are in perfect agreement.

49 posted on 05/16/2010 7:42:45 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Husker24; KC_Conspirator; whatshotandwhatsnot; thulldud
I strongly object to letting Socialists "own" the term Social Justice. It is insane to concede them the power to define this concept, just as they have been conceded the power to define "compassionate," "enlightened," "progressive," "reform," and every other key concept in the public forum.

We should take back these words and restore them to their true meaning. And while we're at it, let's take back the "rainbow," which truly symbolizes, not polymorphous perversity, but God's world-saving promise; "marriage," which means sacred fertile union, and "reproductive health," which means sacred fertile union resulting in a healthy baby.

Push back the socialists and sexual shape-shifters who have seized and twisted our words. Take back the power to define the terms. And then go out and win those hearts and minds.

50 posted on 05/16/2010 8:13:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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To: Scanian
To find out the whether a person has the mindset of a conservative or a lib-leftist, just ask them what businesses are for. If they reply "to hire people," then you have discovered a leftist. If the person says "to make money," (which is the right answer), then you have discovered a conservative.

Businesses exist to make money. They do this by providing a service to people in the form of the product they sell. Leftists just cannot get it through their heads about that basic function. It's like if you figured out a way to start your own very small business, and you could make money without hiring anybody else, the leftists believe you should start hiring people whether you needed them or not.

51 posted on 05/16/2010 9:00:46 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: major-pelham
Yup. And GREEDY voters give them the power.

I heard an ad on the radio about a protest rally - “the government is cutting this, the government is cutting that.” You know, these people seem to be confusing the government for Santa Claus! No wonder the policicians have contempt for the electorate.

52 posted on 05/16/2010 12:13:41 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Freedom is worth fighting for.)
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