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The Next American Civil War: The Populist Revolt Against the Liberal Elite
Newsweek's We Read It So You Don't Have To ^ | May 17, 2010 | "We Read It" Reader: McKay Coppins

Posted on 05/17/2010 10:20:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know...I liked the Phillipines...

San Miguel beer is like a box of chocolates...You never know what you’re gonna get...

;-)


61 posted on 05/18/2010 5:09:08 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

hmmm greeeeat...Newsweek must need to incite a civil war to justify their existense...

Like some say, be careful what you wish for...


62 posted on 05/18/2010 5:17:02 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ..
CW2 Ping


63 posted on 05/18/2010 5:17:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
1.Either take up arms, or drop the rhetoric. The 18th-century Sons of Liberty, who drove the populist uprising against the British crown, sparked violent riots, committed serious crimes, and fought against the government. The cause? Taxes, of course! Harris says that today’s Tea Party activists may echo much of the same language as the Sons of Liberty, but they haven’t backed up all that talk with action: “If those who claim to be fighting in the name of liberty are not prepared to go to extremes, if they are reluctant to break either laws or windows, then perhaps it would be best if they just dropped their pointlessly inflammatory rhetoric, and got back to reality”

These elitist morons have no understanding of our patience and forebearance, or their limits. THey have no idea of the can of whoop-ass that could be opened in a nation where there are uncounted millions of scoped deer rifles. But we understand the horror of the USA "going Bosnia," and have no desire for a CW2. But neither will we be turned into socialist slaves of the "USSA" without a bitter fight.

64 posted on 05/18/2010 5:21:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: stripes1776
"...The problem is not liberal elites. The problem is liberal idiots who have political power..."

They are one and the same, Friend, like a hand and glove.

65 posted on 05/18/2010 5:24:03 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
This subject is right up my alley, since I've written a few CW2 novels.


66 posted on 05/18/2010 5:28:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“If those who claim to be fighting in the name of liberty are not prepared to go to extremes, if they are reluctant to break either laws or windows, then perhaps it would be best if they just dropped their pointlessly inflammatory rhetoric, and got back to reality”

Allow me to retort: Be careful what you wish for.

67 posted on 05/18/2010 6:08:27 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kimberly GG

I lasted 1 minute, 20 seconds ;-)


68 posted on 05/18/2010 6:17:45 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Dem Guard

Really??? Ya think???

We will all participate through the voice we have at the ballot box...

Don’t ever assume that Ghandi totally had the right idea...His opposition blinked just at the right time...

Our opposition doesn’t believe anyone will oppose it peacefully or by force...They are looking for people just like you...You’ll fit right in...

Is it beyond your comprehension to imagine this country would not go to force again to reclaim freedom???

See, that’s one of the problems with the Tea Partiers...They have a few people, like you, that believe they speak for the movement...Ya don’t...

One thing we do agree on, we had better hope it never comes to violence...But if it does...I highly recommend you lay low...Join or Die...There will not be much tolerance for coat-tail riders when this is over...

But like I said, lets hope we can get it done at the ballot box...And hope we never lose that mechanism...


69 posted on 05/18/2010 6:29:15 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64; Dem Guard

Ghandi succeeded because he had civilized opponents.

We have no such luxury.


70 posted on 05/18/2010 6:43:31 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Don’t confuse moral and legal arguments. Slavery was a state’s right. There is no question about it.


71 posted on 05/18/2010 7:06:53 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: DuncanWaring; stevie_d_64; Dem Guard
"Ghandi succeeded because he had civilized opponents."

Yes. I've been saying that ever since the movie came out in 1982.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

72 posted on 05/18/2010 7:07:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: MNJohnnie

“No issue but Slavery lead men to political violence in the antebellum period. Without Slavery all other issues between the North and South could be dealt with in the normal political progress”

Anyone saying that is so ignorant of history as to not even be worthy of discussion.


73 posted on 05/18/2010 7:19:25 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If those who claim to be fighting in the name of liberty are not prepared to go to extremes, if they are reluctant to break either laws or windows, then perhaps it would be best if they just dropped their pointlessly inflammatory rhetoric, and got back to reality”


And who defines this “reality”? Surely not liberal/Marxist intellectuals and limo liberal globalists. They need to go back to the Ivy Towers where they are safe in their make beleive world of centralized Utopian hell.

He wants a civil war while Obammy controls the police and military so he has an excuse to cleanse the Nation of his political and social enemies in the name of terrorism. He wants conservatives to start it rather than watch his Dear Reader weakly try to incite a race war or pull a Waco kinda of murder or a false flag operation to get a reaction. He wants Lincoln.

Conservatives have not played along in a violent reaction to the Left’s threats of State violence and hatred. They laughed at Obama’s jack booted police force at the Tea Party in Indiana or was it Illinois. The image of those grandmas sitting in their lawn chairs singing “God Bless America” facing Obammy’s jack booted ninjas lined up across the street, was just too funny to get the desired reaction from Obama’s enemies so the police would have an excuse to shoot and arrest them. And Holder’s “white milita” effort where the judge ridiculed his police action as unfounded in court did not advance the ball of public fear and hysteria either. Then they had the terrible disappointment and indignity watching the New York bomber drama unfold. It was not a white man; rather muslim and Marxists got laughed at for acting “stupidly” again. So far Bammy’s call for race war against whitey is coming up empty his dream of a machette chopping African American dream of civil war is slipping way. The Lincoln wannabe is looking like a kook.

This comrade knows his power is slipping and it is just around the corner when liberals will be unprogressed again! They are most upset to see their well positioned comrades across the aisle getting canned in election primaries. The Rinos operating in sneaky and silent cooperation is the linch pin for making this radical’s “change” possible. The bi-partisan plan to slam and demoralize Americans before they knew what hit them did not work. Those tea party grannies and gramps...and Sarah Palin’s timely death panel commentary!

The Left has worked hard on taking over the GOP for a long time and now they see it slipping away as their Rinos get canned in election after election. Bam’s radicalism has cooked the goose of his party...this is a comrade’s death wheeze - begging us to do something to give them an excuse to kill and imprison us before we send them packing in Washington. Ole Obama wants to be Lincoln so badly. This comrade is pleading - please let Obammy be Lincoln rather than Stalin!


74 posted on 05/18/2010 7:21:18 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee
I've said this to you before, so this is mainly for the benefit of others.

Certain people clamor for civil war. I don't believe it's wise or prudent to be enthusiastic in any way about such a dreadful thing. People don't understand the all encompassing nature of warfare on a nation's soil. They have a very much incorrect view of how it's going to unfold, occur, and then wrap up.

But I'll say this...(and you yourself pointed this out very well a few short weeks ago)... Everybody has a breaking point at which they determine that taking drastic measures is an only option. It's rather like being on a path where it's not feasible to go backwards, or to stand in one spot. Going forward is an ugly option, but of all the options it's the only logical one.

People can be categorized into large socio-political groups that have some degree of overlap. There is one group in particular which has already been identified as dangerous by the administration as well as the media. I'm going to be creative with my description and call this group the "Christian, Homeschool, Fundamentalist Militia". It's almost a misnomer, but not quite. It's not quite a misnomer because these people are like a big, high speed Thyristor at a power plant which controls gigawatts of power flowing from one point to another. When the switch throws, an enormous amount of energy suddenly ceases flowing from one direction to another.

There will be little warning, as these people are very much peace loving and quiet. Only the most vocal are involved in the Tea Party, or will even give you their political opinions at all. But they're all viewed by the current establishment (and administration) as indeed dangerous, and for good reasons...the reasons I've described above.

If those in power who fear the "Christian, Homeschool, Fundamentalist Militia" had any sense, they'd stop doing what they're doing. They're going to back a vast number of people into a corner, and when they do, this nation is is going to polarize and shift in a deadly and dreadful way. Currently, our national power brokers are giving absolutely ZERO heed to their constituency. This makes them dangerous indeed. It's anybody's guess what they will try next, and that very thing (whatever it is) could very well be what pushes that Thyristor to suddenly switch. It could be that they (for example) decide to mess with people's 401ks in order to reduce the national debt. But in truth, it could be any number of things and nobody can even guess at this point.

Hopefully, the things we're seeing unfold in America can come to a peaceful end. But I'm not seeing it at this point. Hope and Change right?! :-)
75 posted on 05/18/2010 7:24:07 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: MNJohnnie
It was not “State Rights” that lead a SC Congressmen to beat a Massachusetts Senator to the edge of death on the Senate floor.

The Massachusetts Senator had considerably overstepped the bounds of deceny in calling another Senator a whore-mongor on the floor of the Senate. Issues of honor were taken seriously at the time, we were still in the generation of our leaders who fought duels. I do see a parallel with today. The left not only disagrees with the right, they take extreme pleasure in mocking us. They count on our infinite patience with their adolescent toilet language. They count on someone or something to protect them from those the mock: annonymity, the distance of the internet, conventions of society, the police.

See the rude, profane and mocking video aimed at Dick Army above. What they do not understand, in doing so, is that not all of us are bound by their unstated code, that some still cling to older codes.

I imagine that a caining or two, in some form, will proceed our next Civil War, for much the same reasons that it preceeded the last one.

76 posted on 05/18/2010 7:36:04 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: MNJohnnie

hmm


77 posted on 05/18/2010 7:51:36 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And Newsweek wonders why they're going out of business. If not for doctors, dentists and chiropractors offices, we'd have forgotten their name by now.

I bring my own magazines and leave them in those offices. Typically gun magazines, or The New American (John Birch) or The WND Whistle Blower. Just a small effort on my part to spread real Truth, Justice and the real "American Way."

78 posted on 05/18/2010 8:03:28 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Excellent points all. We would do well to remember who the real enemies of America are...


79 posted on 05/18/2010 8:03:45 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: stevie_d_64
"Is it beyond your comprehension to imagine this country would not go to force again to reclaim freedom???"

Yep, you aren't going overthrow this government with force cowboy!

80 posted on 05/18/2010 8:04:49 AM PDT by Dem Guard ("We're Coming to Take You Away, ")
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