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The Empire Strikes Back...30 years ago...
Neoavatara ^ | May 22, 2010 | Neoavatara

Posted on 05/22/2010 7:49:14 AM PDT by Neoavatara

30 years.

Three decades.

Man, do I feel old.

Many of you weren't even born in 1980. That is a scary thought. Me, I was 6 years old and a Star Wars fanatic from the first moment I saw the opening scene of the original movie. My generation didn't play cowboys-and-indians, or soldiers on a battlefield...we were Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and the rest of the characters from "A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away"...

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1 posted on 05/22/2010 7:49:15 AM PDT by Neoavatara
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To: Neoavatara

The best of the Star Wars series.


2 posted on 05/22/2010 7:58:51 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Neoavatara; fieldmarshaldj; KevinDavis; GSP.FAN

Today is also the 30th birthday of Pac-Man


3 posted on 05/22/2010 7:59:05 AM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: Rocko

I thought it was also. I also like the old SPFX models rather than the modern day CGI.


4 posted on 05/22/2010 8:00:25 AM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: Neoavatara

I went to sleep early, got up about Midnight, went to the 2AM showing at the Old Esquire Theater on Oak Street in Chicago.

Yeah, I was young once.


5 posted on 05/22/2010 8:03:03 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: Neoavatara

Thank you for the rush of memories of my youth! I remember how I sat transfixed from the opening scenes to the final credits of ALL the ‘Star Wars’ movies. In my young eyes, they were fresh, original and simply amazing! Even 30 years later(Good grief, has it been that long?), I still have the same opinion.

Long live the Alliance!


6 posted on 05/22/2010 8:04:21 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Rocko

I thought the original one was the best but “The Empire” was just about as good.

“Return of the Jedi” started out good then deteriorated. I will say Carrie Fisher cut a nice figure in the slave princess costume.

It was clear to me that Lucas was sending a message and it was tinged in red. Sure enough, many years later he admitted he thought of the Ewoks as sort of like the Viet Cong.


7 posted on 05/22/2010 8:07:06 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Rocko
The best of the Star Wars series.

Which isn't saying much.

Since the Empire's Stormtroopers can't hit somebody 35 feet away with 500 rounds sprayed from their futuristic energy weapons, perhaps they should try throwing rocks instead.

8 posted on 05/22/2010 8:09:45 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Neoavatara
I took my four year old daughter to the re-release of Star Wars in 1997. The crowd was mostly, totally, an older crowd, very few kids or teenagers. My daughter was really excited about the movie and during the garbage scene jumped up in her seat and started yelling at Luke to “get out of there”. The laughter went on for several minutes from the entire crowd. I think it pleased them, and me, to see someone getting as excited about the movie as we had been when it first came out.
9 posted on 05/22/2010 8:13:06 AM PDT by wbarmy (I decided to be a sheepdog when I saw what happens to sheep.)
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To: Interesting Times

Well the bad guys never could hit anything. That goes back a long way. Of course it was stupid but remember this was a fantasy.

I loved the light sabers but they are one thing which is totally impossible in any way. Same thing goes for beaming someone up in “Star Trek” totally violated any law of physics and one of those things that if they could do that, they could literally do anything.


10 posted on 05/22/2010 8:13:47 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Interesting Times
Since the Empire's Stormtroopers can't hit somebody 35 feet away with 500 rounds sprayed from their futuristic energy weapons, perhaps they should try throwing rocks instead.

What, you were expecting realism? Even after seeing the first one?

11 posted on 05/22/2010 8:14:36 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Neoavatara
I will NEVER forgive Lucas for his incomplete "Triple Triology".

First there was Episodes 4 5 and 6. Then he went back and produced Episodes 1 2 and 3.

Episodes 7 8 and 9 were never produced and .....

12 posted on 05/22/2010 8:18:19 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: Neoavatara
I saw it when was 20 years old and vividly remembering walking out of the theater totally blown away with the movie, special effects and sound.

A true tour de force

That opening scene with the ship coming in from the top of the screen which seemed at that time to take five minutes and the walls rumbling and the star cruiser just filling the entire screen really was awesome and great film making

13 posted on 05/22/2010 8:19:44 AM PDT by Popman (Balsa wood: Obama Presidential timber)
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To: Popman

The music absolutely made that movie.


14 posted on 05/22/2010 8:23:14 AM PDT by willyd (Tree planting is a zero sum game unless you find the seed on the sidewalk ;-))
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To: Young Werther

After 1,2 & 3 count your blessings.


15 posted on 05/22/2010 8:23:40 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Rocko; yarddog

I don’t demand gritty realism in a space opera, but you need enough internal consistency to suspend disbelief. Pixar does this superbly. Lucas doesn’t know how or can’t be bothered.


16 posted on 05/22/2010 8:25:14 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Neoavatara

If you were that big a fan, you’d know it wasn’t “A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away”; it was “Long, long ago in ...”


17 posted on 05/22/2010 8:31:26 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: Popman

Agree, that opening scene has got to be one of the best ever. To use the modern jargon, it is EPIC!


18 posted on 05/22/2010 8:32:26 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Rocko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwV61t_Tec8


19 posted on 05/22/2010 8:32:28 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Rocko

Agreed.


20 posted on 05/22/2010 8:33:41 AM PDT by rintense
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To: bigredkitty1

I saw the first Star Wars 26 times in theaters. God knows how many times I’ve seen it since, as I’ve had kids and they wanted me to watch it with them on tapes and DVDs.


21 posted on 05/22/2010 8:34:23 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: Yardstick

Here it is. It’s actually from Episode IV “A New Hope” the first Star Wars

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQrgMIhCkUk


22 posted on 05/22/2010 8:47:40 AM PDT by Popman (Balsa wood: Obama Presidential timber)
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To: Popman
THIS IS EVEN BETTER
23 posted on 05/22/2010 9:04:10 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: ottbmare

I see your kids inherited your good taste in entertainment. ;)


24 posted on 05/22/2010 10:02:48 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Popman

Today’s kids won’t have the experience of waiting in line for HOURS for a movie and being rewarded mightily for their patience. I waited hours for ‘Empire’ and ‘Jedi’. I loved them both.


25 posted on 05/22/2010 10:11:09 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
You didn't like JarJar?

The rest of the stuff in the warehouse at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark were JarJar Binks toys that never sold.

26 posted on 05/22/2010 10:19:00 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball

The only thing remotely watchable about the prequel was Natalie Portman when the air conditioning was on.


27 posted on 05/22/2010 10:23:14 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Interesting Times
Since the Empire's Stormtroopers can't hit somebody 35 feet away with 500 rounds sprayed from their futuristic energy weapons, perhaps they should try throwing rocks instead.

They are supposed to be elite professionals, they can't hit their targets. They wear all this cumbersome body armor that is ineffective against pistol shots. Just pathetic.

28 posted on 05/22/2010 10:25:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Totally best review of The Phantom Menace EVER!!!!!!! It's like 7 parts, over an hour, but it's funny as heck, accurate, and a lot better than the movie. Rips it to shreds.
29 posted on 05/22/2010 10:30:07 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: bigredkitty1

My son did, certainly. It’s great having a handsome young gentleman with whom to go see movies in which stuff blows up! ;-)


30 posted on 05/22/2010 3:00:50 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Well, the other problem is, too, they’re clones of clones of clones, and that means their IQ is about the same as an average Zero supporter.


31 posted on 05/22/2010 3:23:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: IYAS9YAS; FrPR; GOP Poet; OriginalChristian; El Sordo; ronnyquest; cizinec; Ronin; ...


A big thanks goes to Visualops for the Banner!!


32 posted on 05/22/2010 4:01:01 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Jesus Saves... Allah Kills...)
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To: Perdogg

I played the Google logo pacman, lol


33 posted on 05/22/2010 4:07:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: ottbmare

Don’t forget the most important part:the bad guys lose and the good guys win.


34 posted on 05/22/2010 4:14:59 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: yarddog

I always thought the Empire was more like Democrats


35 posted on 05/22/2010 4:15:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Rocko
The best of the Star Wars series.

Except for the whole "Ewok" thingy, and George Lucas' vision of them being like the Viet Cong.

36 posted on 05/22/2010 4:17:01 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Except for the whole "Ewok" thingy, and George Lucas' vision of them being like the Viet Cong.

Never mind - brain in neutral - Ewoks were in ROTJ - not Empire. Sorry, mea culpa. Turning in my nerd card.

37 posted on 05/22/2010 4:19:10 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: Neoavatara

I saw it in a theater that had about 2,000 seats. If you sat about 1/3 of the way back from the screen it would covered your entire peripheral vision. And the sound system could shake your seat and make your filling fall out. Are there any theaters like this left?


38 posted on 05/22/2010 4:23:31 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Sometimes I like nuts. That's why I am here.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
That was in Return of the Jedi, not Empire Strikes Back.
39 posted on 05/22/2010 4:26:23 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: IYAS9YAS

Okay.


40 posted on 05/22/2010 4:27:01 PM PDT by Rocko
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The best of the Star Wars series.
Except for the whole “Ewok” thingy, and George Lucas’ vision of them being like the Viet Cong

yes....Empire, #5, was the darkest and because of that the best....

number 4 was just fantastic.... the beginning of #6 was great, then went right downhill

1,2, were just awful....but like 5, I like #3 for its darkness....

and the Ewoks and Jar jar tie for worst species...and Jar jar wins for worst character....

41 posted on 05/22/2010 4:31:19 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Popman
That opening scene with the ship coming in from the top of the screen which seemed at that time to take five minutes and the walls rumbling and the star cruiser just filling the entire screen...

How were you able to hear the star cruiser since sound doesn't travel through the vacuum of space?

Just asking.

42 posted on 05/22/2010 4:35:29 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Republicans should campaign like Rush Limbaugh. A lot more of them would get elected.)
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To: GeronL

Just my impression but I think the Empire was very loosely based on the Roman Empire while the Storm Troopers were quite clearly meant to be evocative of the German Nuremberg rally.

I thought Jar Jar would have been cool in a total fantasy but was out of place in an adventure story.


43 posted on 05/22/2010 4:39:39 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Vaquero
Yeah. I screwed up my response. I was thinking ROTJ, but answered to Empire. Out of the six, I still like Empire the best, then "Star Wars", then ROTJ up until the Ewoks - I do like the struggle between the Sith/Jedi at the end of ROTJ.

Of the prequels, I like the darkness of Revenge, but hated most of Attack of the Clowns Clones.

The Phantom Menace would have been great without Jar Jar and had they put someone who could actually act as young Anakin. Well, that and having someone, anyone, besides Lucas writing the dialogue.

44 posted on 05/22/2010 4:45:07 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: bigredkitty1
Today’s kids won’t have the experience of waiting in line for HOURS for a movie and being rewarded mightily for their patience. I waited hours for ‘Empire’ and ‘Jedi’. I loved them both.

They also won't have the experience of seeing these movies in sold-out, super-gigantic theaters alongside 1,000+ raving fans.

During the 70s and early 80s, when movies trickled out of ho-wood at a slow pace, enormous stand-alone movie theaters were economically viable. This is no longer the case.

45 posted on 05/22/2010 4:53:15 PM PDT by Vision Thing (He has a white house, and he wants to paint it black.)
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To: bigredkitty1

Rebel scum.


46 posted on 05/22/2010 5:31:12 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: ThomasThomas

What is this theater of which you speak?


47 posted on 05/22/2010 6:37:58 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

It is long gone it was in San Diego near the corner of University and College Ave.


48 posted on 05/22/2010 6:56:44 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Sometimes I like nuts. That's why I am here.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

On my personal top 10 list, despite the fact that I was scared to go into the theatre as there was a guy dressed as Darth Vader at the entrance.


49 posted on 05/22/2010 8:39:36 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Fresh Wind
For the same reason there is a swish sound when the Enterprise zooms onto the screen.

The advantage of Sci-Fi/Fantasy is that you get to make your own background reality, which gives a lot of flexibility. BUT you have to sell that reality to a modern day, earthbound audience. To go between worlds in any kind of reasonable timeframe a spacecraft has to move really quickly, and with our earthbound senses fast means swish. If it didn't have the sound, it would not come over as fast (or dramatic. In the final analysis all movies, irrespective of genre, are telling a story, and everything is (and should) be subordinate to that.

It's like when some fan asked J. Michael Straczynski of Babylon 5 fame how fast his "star fury" space fighters go, and he answered "at the speed of plot".

50 posted on 05/22/2010 11:50:16 PM PDT by Vanders9
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