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Why Impeaching Obama is a Bad Idea
Conservative Hideout 2.0 ^ | 5-31-10 | Matt

Posted on 05/30/2010 8:07:03 AM PDT by ConservativeHideout

Since we became aware the Joe Sestak was offered a position by the administration in exchange for dropping out of the race against Arlen Specter, there have been calls for impeachment. Small at first, but growing in strength in the past week, these calls can threaten to derail the progress that we have been making. In fact, I would submit that impeaching Obama is a terrible idea. (Mind you, this is assuming that we win enough seats in November to even try.)

Impeachment puts Obama on the defense, and that might play to his strengths. I like to keep in mind that Obama is really a community organizer. He’s not a leader, or a “uniter,” he’s an Alinskyite-to the bone. Part of their game is to portray themselves as the victim(s), and their opposition as the “oppressor.” While Obama doesn’t know how to speak without a prompter, go to a foreign country without bowing to someone, or how to handle a national crisis, he does know how to distort, lie, deflect, smear, and pay power politics with people. Those are his strengths, and impeaching him pushes him right back onto them.

Put him on the defensive, and we might just get to see what he is really good at. Race cards will be played. Narratives will be written and rewritten. The MSM will fabricate or selectively cover whatever it takes to defend Obama. Rent-a-mob will be purchased and deployed. The people prompting the impeachment will find themselves on the defensive in short order. Also, don’t forget that in politics, it’s always easier to play to role of the “principled defense.” Just ask the GOP. They’ve been able to stay on message as a united front (with the exception of some RINOs). For that, they’re polling higher, and are looking to make some significant gains come November.

Putting him “under attack” will also likely energize his base. They’re not so active right now. They had to pay Purple People Beaters to show up for Martha Coakley in January. They probably had to pay the People Beaters to show up and scare the stuffing out of a teenager last week. However, threaten his presidency, and the zombies will awaken. That might put us on the defensive…literally (not that particularly bothers me, I see it as an eventuality anyway) .

Another reason to avoid impeachment is that it takes us off message and task. No matter what, our agenda should be put forward. Lower taxes, less spending, smaller government, school choice, repealing ObamaCare, and repairing the damage that Obama has caused should be front and center. Impeaching Obama will take time and political capital, both of which are in short supply, and neither can be squandered. The stakes are simply too high. We either stop correcting damage, and getting the country back on track, or we spend time trying to remove a sitting President; a task that has never been accomplished.

The third reason centers on the fact that Obama is failing already. He’s taking heat for the slow reaction time on the oil spill. He is increasing alienating his lapdogs in the media, and they’re starting to notice. All the “Easter Eggs” that were in ObamaCare are becoming public. He is now a laughing stock overseas, and belligerent nations are taking his presidency as an excuse to become more aggressive. They can say that the economy and jobs are getting better, but Main Street says otherwise, and a few hundred thousand-census workers are about to lose their jobs. Democratic candidates are running against him, and treat him like the plague. In fact, almost every candidate that he has campaigned for has lost. It’s not an impressive record. It’s going to get worse, and more and more people are noticing. If you impeach him, you actually distract from his own record of failure, making him the victim instead of Jimmy Carter 2.0.

I’ve often said that Obama, in and of himself, is irrelevant. He’s only the latest “progressive” that’s trying to destroy the Republic. Clinton, Kerry, or any other Democrat could have won, and we’d be still facing the same challenges that we are tackling now. It’s the agenda that we need to target, not the man. If we stick with ideas, people will see what a disaster the Obama Presidency is, and will continue to be. Impeach him, and it becomes personal, and he can use his skills to make himself a sympathetic character that is being set upon by those “evil Conservatives that don’t want a black man to be president.”

Don’t play into his hands. Instead, let’s send him home in January of 2013 as a failure-because he is. Let’s also make sure take he takes failed, statist ideas with him as well.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barakobama; communityorganizer; impeachment; joesustak
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1 posted on 05/30/2010 8:07:05 AM PDT by ConservativeHideout
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To: ConservativeHideout

He has already caused irreversible damage. Keep watching TV and ball games idiot serfs. TV controls fools.


2 posted on 05/30/2010 8:08:17 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Frantzie

WHen someone is so EVIL and literally destroying our country, if we can impeach him, we MUST. You should NEVER, EVER, turn your back on your country when someone is destoying it. To suggest we allow Obama to continue on, is shameful if you can STOP IT.


3 posted on 05/30/2010 8:11:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ConservativeHideout

“Why Impeaching Obama is a Bad Idea”
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Well, ok—I’d rather see him xxxx anyway!

;)


4 posted on 05/30/2010 8:11:56 AM PDT by gunnyg (Surrounded By The Enemy Within--~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...If Ya Can Grok That!)
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To: ConservativeHideout

Disagree - he is destroying this nation on a daily basis. We (majority of legal voting Americans) cannot wait until Nov 2012 to correct this. By then America will not look anything like we are used to and the inmates will be in full control - there will be no taking it back. It has to happen in the 2011-2012 period or you can stick a fork in the America you and I grew up in. If you like zer0’s America than do not impeach for goodness sake.


5 posted on 05/30/2010 8:12:23 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ConservativeHideout

Since when do conservatives dance around ‘someone’s’ personality?

What a crock, you are newbie. A conservative screen name doesn’t make you one - YOUR posts out your liberal mindset!


6 posted on 05/30/2010 8:14:56 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: ConservativeHideout
Fair enough point. It may, however, be the perfect way of taking down Obuttocks' abettors, like Rahm Emanuel. Considering that Obuttocks is essentially a Manchurian President - a tool deployed to serve the ends decreed by his handlers, such as Emanuel. Since the Whitehouse seems to want to pin this on someone other than Obuttocks, we should keep pushing on the "impeach obama" button until they offer up the most appropriate sacrifice in lieu of their god.


7 posted on 05/30/2010 8:15:35 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeHideout

Doesn’t Biden take the Presidency if the King is impeached.


8 posted on 05/30/2010 8:15:50 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

that article is talking about political strategies, not what is the right thing to do. Politically, if we to go for impeachment, we better make sure we have the votes and that it will pass, otherwise a failure will give Obama the victory like with Clinton


9 posted on 05/30/2010 8:18:48 AM PDT by 4rcane (Tennessee flood)
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To: ConservativeHideout

I am not saying our side should impeach or force Obama to resign. His team, the Democrat party must do that!!! if they don’t, POTUS Obama will take down the entire Democrat party with him. You know there is a Democrat plan afoot to force Joe Biden to resign, have Obama appoint Hillary Clinton to the VP slot and then force Obama to resign or be impeached by his own Democrat party. Wonders, Obama is gone, Hillary Clinton is the POTUS, and life goes on for the Democrat party. Far fetched!!! Maybe not!!! Methinks Hillary and her kindred spirits smell Obama’s political blood in the water. Stay tuned!!! And.....Impeach Obama, now, Democrats!!!


10 posted on 05/30/2010 8:20:14 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: ConservativeHideout

I believe Obama would enjoy impeachment hearings.

Victim hood is like crack to the left.


11 posted on 05/30/2010 8:20:32 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: ConservativeHideout

Is Biden going to be any better?


12 posted on 05/30/2010 8:21:37 AM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: ConservativeHideout

I don’t see any point in impeaching him. Joe B would be an even worse President. Just replace Congress and vote Obama out in 2012.


13 posted on 05/30/2010 8:21:49 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Frantzie

I think the term that best describes Obama is hubris. He can not imagine he can do wrong, or that anyone will stop him.

If the Republicans regain control of both houses in November, Obama will be impeached, if not for this, for something else.

He came into office thinking he was above the law (result of growing up in Chicago). He can not help it, he will do something else just as illegal and almost dare us to do anything about it.


14 posted on 05/30/2010 8:21:52 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Logical me

That is the best reason not to impeach him. Biden, with SanFranGranNan just a heartbeat away.

Gunner


15 posted on 05/30/2010 8:21:55 AM PDT by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: Cheerio

November is Americas last stand. Otherwise we go the way of the Souix.


16 posted on 05/30/2010 8:22:03 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: presently no screen name

I agree with Conservative Hideout. Trying to impeach Obama for this affair is a waste of time. Try to form cogent arguments rather than cast aspersions on a fellow Freeper.


17 posted on 05/30/2010 8:22:27 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

Yes, It will not be pretty. It may tear our country apart. But it can be rebuilt. Depositions are a bitch. Maybe we can get into the lies about the COLB, school records and real names and SS #’s. The truth needs to see the light of day. I hope some people have the balls for this.


18 posted on 05/30/2010 8:22:37 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: ConservativeHideout
Impeachment is a legal matter, not one for debating political strategies. If a president fails to uphold the laws of the United States, he should be brought before the “powers that be” to answer for it.

My opinion for what is it worth, O should be arrested for treason. I don't care what party he is.

19 posted on 05/30/2010 8:23:25 AM PDT by mstar
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To: ConservativeHideout

This article demonstrates why amateurs should never have their own blog. Every second this POS is in the Oval Office our country suffers, WE suffer. Our country needs to be rid of this plague. We need him humiliated and sent packing. We need to fumigate his administration and rid it of the vermin he’s put in place to destroy this country. Your treatise is shortsighted and naive.


20 posted on 05/30/2010 8:24:56 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: 4rcane

After clintoon, we had 8 years of R in the WH.
C. lost his license to perform in a court room and was humiliated.
I still think it was the right thing to do. Anytime you can make a prez spend 90% of his time on defense, it keeps him from dreaming up new ideas to steal more from the taxpayers. Impeachment of Obummer? It’s a Good Thing!


21 posted on 05/30/2010 8:25:10 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: ConservativeHideout

“The third reason centers on the fact that Obama is failing already.” You cannot be that naive, n00b. His commie/socialist agenda is succeeding right before your eyes, instituting the Cloward-Piven strategy to ‘crash the system’ and you want to assert he is failing? Either you don’t understand what his goals are, what his agenda is, or you’re working to keep the bastard in power long enough to finish the assassination of the Republic. Which is it, n00b?


22 posted on 05/30/2010 8:27:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: weps4ret

Bill Clintoon just assured Hillary of the VP spot if Biden is prez.
He didn’t play the “fall guy” in this Sestak thing for free.
Course, I wouldn’t want to be prez with Hillary just a heartbeat away from the #1 job.....Biden just might be that dumb, but Obummer wasn’t. That’s the reason she wasn’t chosen as his VP.


23 posted on 05/30/2010 8:28:42 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: driftless2
It is NEVER a waste of time to remove a cancerous tumor. Never. You show the same naivete as this loser. Any attempt to destroy this POS is worthwhile. Man or a mouse? You, are a sniveling mouse!
24 posted on 05/30/2010 8:28:47 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: ConservativeHideout
Sounds like a GREAT F’in idea to me...drag his nasty A$$ out of the PEOPLE'S house in chains!
25 posted on 05/30/2010 8:30:05 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Wish I had read your post before I posted.

Yes, Bill didn’t polay the fall guy in the Sestak lie for free.
Something is in the air and it DOES include Hillary and 2012.


26 posted on 05/30/2010 8:30:55 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: ConservativeHideout

If he’s committed high crimes and misdemeanors, impeach him and try him.

Crass political calculations should not be considered at all. It’s unseemly and unwise.


27 posted on 05/30/2010 8:31:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Another day, another bit of insanity from the spaghetti-noodle-in-chief.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The affirmative action bastard didn’t grow up in Chicago, he just embraced in adulthood the criminality therein.


28 posted on 05/30/2010 8:31:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: mstar

Agree, and he oproves the case daily.


29 posted on 05/30/2010 8:31:58 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: IceAge

Correction: polay=play


30 posted on 05/30/2010 8:33:04 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: driftless2
Try to form cogent arguments

There is NO argument, you idiot. I don't consider a liberal a 'fellow' anything. Stop with your liberal talk - and trying to be 'one of us'.

Get lost - conservatism isn't for wusses - you aren't capable of pulling it off, either!
31 posted on 05/30/2010 8:33:37 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: IceAge

Wow! must be something wrong with my “O” key.
oproves = proves


32 posted on 05/30/2010 8:33:58 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: misterrob

Yes, he is stupid + he doesn’t have the race card to play everytime he gets caught in a ruinous move against the country.


33 posted on 05/30/2010 8:35:41 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: Doc Savage
This article demonstrates why amateurs should never have their own blog. Every second this POS is in the Oval Office our country suffers, WE suffer. Our country needs to be rid of this plague. We need him humiliated and sent packing. We need to fumigate his administration and rid it of the vermin he’s put in place to destroy this country. Your treatise is shortsighted and naive.

Here's what we need to get Bammy out of office as well as to clean up after him:

Commie Cleanser

Wacky Pack sticker from 1969
34 posted on 05/30/2010 8:35:45 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

I say IMPEACH the sumbeesh. Rip those overpriced suits from him, drag him from office, throw him onto the street, then report to ther police there is a ‘bum’ hanging out in front of the White House.


35 posted on 05/30/2010 8:36:18 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: ConservativeHideout
Welcome to FreeRepublic.

Where abouts in PA are you?

36 posted on 05/30/2010 8:36:52 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: 4rcane

Thank you. That is the intent of the article.


37 posted on 05/30/2010 8:36:55 AM PDT by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: Oceander

Quite true. They may have to start jettisoning some of their minions due to this.


38 posted on 05/30/2010 8:39:18 AM PDT by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: MHGinTN

True, but Chicago was his finishing school.


39 posted on 05/30/2010 8:40:48 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: ConservativeHideout

You’re right, it doesn’t make sense to impeach. Since when is an ineligible usurper entitled to the rights & privileges of a real president? Throw him in jail...not that I’m holding my breath for that to occur. That evil scoundrel!


40 posted on 05/30/2010 8:41:32 AM PDT by blockhead51 (Oust the Socialist Usurper!)
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To: ConservativeHideout

Bill Clinton - First Black President

Barak Obama - Worst Black President


41 posted on 05/30/2010 8:42:20 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: ConservativeHideout

What good came from any impeachment of a president?


42 posted on 05/30/2010 8:43:07 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: IceAge

You are right on the money. Bill Clinton hates Obama and will do everything needed to bring him down. Look, who knows and spots another flim/flam man other the original flim/flam man, Bill Clinton. The Clintons, their minions, followers, Obama haters are alive and well and, working overtime to bring Obama down, while getting Hillary Clinton into the vacated POTUS spot. Obama the dummy, ego-maniac he is does not have a clue!!!


43 posted on 05/30/2010 8:44:10 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: misterrob
Is Biden going to be any better?

He couldn't be worse.

44 posted on 05/30/2010 8:44:48 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The 0bama regime represents an "Clear and Present Danger" to the US - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: ConservativeHideout
Sounds like you would have been in agreement with Neville Chamberlain at Munich.

If there's a legal chance to get Obama out of office before 2012, DO IT! This train's headed for the cliff, and he's the engineer.

45 posted on 05/30/2010 8:44:59 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: nmh

I don’t know if it is possible to impeach him. The GOP couldn’t get Clinton, and that was cut and dry. We can spend months trying to remove him, of months actually stopping his agenda. They can’t necessarily reverse things, yet, but they can block him.


46 posted on 05/30/2010 8:45:04 AM PDT by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: blockhead51

Five stars! * * * * *


47 posted on 05/30/2010 8:45:49 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: ConservativeHideout

Why impeaching Obama is a good idea:

If he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, it is simply the right and correct thing to do to punish someone who has subverted the Constitution and our liberty. It should not be a political decision.

Either you are for the Constitution or you are against it. To coin a phrase.


48 posted on 05/30/2010 8:46:27 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: airborne
in PA are you?

Exactly! His minions are here, it's a known fact.
49 posted on 05/30/2010 8:46:28 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: presently no screen name

Yes, I see, calling people names is your way of forming an “argument.” Are you a pie thrower too?


50 posted on 05/30/2010 8:46:41 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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