Posted on 06/22/2010 3:00:51 PM PDT by Starman417
The new rules of fighting a war....Obama style, via George F. Will: (h/t The Captain's Journal)
occasionally there are riveting communications, such as a recent e-mail from a noncommissioned officer (NCO) serving in Afghanistan. He explains why the rules of engagement for U.S. troops are too prohibitive for coalition forces to achieve sustained tactical successes.Receiving mortar fire during an overnight mission, his unit called for a 155mm howitzer illumination round to be fired to reveal the enemys location. The request was rejected on the grounds that it may cause collateral damage. The NCO says that the only thing that comes down from an illumination round is a canister, and the likelihood of it hitting someone or something was akin to that of being struck by lightning.
Returning from a mission, his unit took casualties from an improvised explosive device that the unit knew had been placed no more than an hour earlier. There were villagers laughing at the U.S. casualties and two suspicious individuals were seen fleeing the scene and entering a home. U.S. forces are no longer allowed to search homes without Afghan National Security Forces personnel present. But when his unit asked Afghan police to search the house, the police refused on the grounds that the people in the house are good people.
[snip]
The NCO is the backbone of our nations military. They don't deal with the politics of the upper ranks, they operate to achieve the mission and keep their men save. They are on the ground, on the front lines with their troops. They see it all....and when they are seeing what the NCO wrote about above you just have to know we have already lost Afghanistan.
Read more at floppingaces.net...
“Obamas Rules of Engagement In Afghanistan Will Ensure Our Failure”
...and ensure his success...it’s what he wants.
I heard stories about ridiculous rules of engagement in Vietnam, but this seems downright criminal. They are clearly not winning “hearts and minds”. Quite the opposite—they are becoming laughingstocks. No wonder the locals support the Taliban. Who would riks their life in such a situation?
Receiving mortar fire during an overnight mission, his unit called for a 155mm howitzer illumination round to be fired to reveal the enemys location. The request was rejected on the grounds that it may cause collateral damage.
Time to GTFO...
LBJ bomba
Why our military in Afghanistan doesn’t resign en-mass is beyond me!
May as well make RPGs out of hershey bars and bullets out of sparklers.
God bless you, guys. God help you.
In March 2009 Obama replaced Gen. McKiernan with McChrystal. This was a very unusual move, the first field commander removed from his command in wartime since MacArthur. McChrystal has been promoting the Obama rules of engagement in which our troops are expected to act as community organizers instead of soldiers. Now the Democrats and the MSM are setting up McChrystal to take the fall and deflect attention from Obama.
The recent Rolling Stone article concluded:
There is a reason that President Obama studiously avoids using the word “victory” when he talks about Afghanistan. Winning, it would seem, is not really possible. Not even with Stanley McChrystal in charge.
Obama wants America to be defeated. He should not kill any more brave, young American men in achieving his goal.
Sorry,, not an option, or did you not know that.
Once you raise your hand, you are commited for 4 yrs active. You can't quit, if you do, you go to jail!
sorry to say I agree,,,we now have another Nam.
My father was a career Army officer & SF advisor in Viet Nam in 1960-61.He steered me into the USAF in 1969 specifically because of the politician driven ROE at the time and commanders who were more concerned about their promotion points than the troops.My son is currently serving in an Army mechanized infantry unit deploying to Afghanistan in 2011.With this current ROE & gaggle of cowards & thieves running our country, I fear for his life.God protect our military from their enemies foreign & domestic.
sorry to say I agree,,,we now have another Nam.
I think this is worse...if such a thing is possible...this one actually has the POtuS ACTIVELY working against the troops...let’s not forget that Zero left McChrystal on his own for MONTHS without talking to him and only gave him half of what he wanted...the ROE are a joke...a horrifying, dangerous joke...for instance...our guys are not allowed to use night illumination because the flares might cause “collateral damage.” Time to GTFO.
it sickens me
I was just dreaming.
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