Posted on 07/27/2010 9:41:20 PM PDT by Brugmansian
“In all seriousness, I think schools should be open 12, 13, 14 hours a day, seven days a week, 11-12 months of the year,” Duncan said. “This is not just more of the same. There would be a whole variety of after-school programs. Obviously academics would be at the heart of that. But you top it off with dancing, art, drama, music, yearbook, robotics, activities for older siblings and parents, ESL classes.”
He continued by explaining that the American school calendar is antiquated and must be modified so that American students can compete at the highest levels internationally.
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Yup. Just turn the kids over to the government.
Not sure he is wrong (that kids need more serious schooling for the modern era ahead, a better work ethic inculcated early) ... but then, I fail to see why GOVERNMENT should be the default operator of schools.
It’s not like there is any education going on at these schools.
Regimentation of children by the state. Stalin would be impressed.
They could be educated a lot better in the same number of hours but that would upset the union. Don’t you know it takes 12 years of union teachers to get a kid to read on a 7th grade level?
In other words, “Give us more money, more brainwashing needs to take place”.
Keep the feds out of our schools. It’s none of their business.
Yeah, typical liberal outlook: parents, don’t take responsibility for your kids, raising your family. No accountability, just let the nanny state take care of them. In other words, we’d like more time to indoctrinate them.
>>>Regimentation of children by the state. Stalin would be impressed.<<<
I agree.
Goodnesswins calls for the abolition of the Department of Education....and especially for the abolition of the Education Secretary’s job.....GET the GOVERNMENT OUT of EDUCATION....they’ve failed.
That’s IT!
Why not just keep them in school 24 hours a day every day until they graduate? We could put them in holding cells with bunk beds during the night, build high fences with barbed wire to keep them from escaping, and force them to wear black & white striped jump suits and leg irons. Of course, relatives could visit on weekends.
Hitler and Mao would be tickled, too.
exactly...and then pay for the indoctrination
Most of the teachers at the high school I work at are gone two minutes after the bell rings. You won’t find too many who’ll go for this. Now if there’s a second shift...
Seven hours is more than enough if you get rid of the following: diveristy classes, self esteem classes, pointless assemblies, the option of 2 studyhalls, a lot of social studies lessons etc. Also don’t make science optional and require math every year along with teaching phonics and real language (not writing poems or asking how a book makes you feel)
The goal being to separate the children from their parents.
Predators.
CommieCrates have a well thought-out plan, and are well on their way to implementing, while the GOP Leadership stands on the sidelines being congenial.
Hell, why not just take the eggs and sperm from the non-productive and produce an army of worker drones! Oh, that’s right. Drones don’t pay taxes. DARN!
12 hours
12 months
12 years
That’s not too much to ask is it?
they do enough damage in the limited time they have them now. Shut down the DOE
Basically they are talking about daycare for those who want it. Unless they want to require the kids be there at the school to erase the benefits kids with private lessons and tutors get over their peers, which wouldn’t surprise me.
Exactly.
They were turning into Stalinist gulags in the ‘80s, so might as well make it official, right ?
The GOP leadership is who conservatives do or not not put in power.
Beck ran through the academics learned by the founding fathers. Was it John Quincy Adams who was a secretary to his father while the latter served as ambassador to England.
JQA was eleven. When he was 14 he was a secretary to the ambassador to Russia. The children were spelling five syllable words that you and I can’t pronounce in fourth grade, training with the militia at five.
Puhleeze. They are just looking for reasons to call for our arrests they’re so desperate. This idea can not happen in a free society. We need marxists out of the schools and churches. Period. Problem solved.
12 hours a day?
Is this satire?
Does this guy have kids? I’d like to lock him in a classroom of 6th graders for 12 hours. Makes me smile to think about it.
Where the hell's this guy been, they already do all of that and more.
3 hours a day in a disciplined school would suffice.
24 in the typical public school would not help.
Really, who needs the nuclear family when kids siblings, parents are in school learning robotics and dancing?!
Year round schooling doesn’t sound bad to me, but 12 hour school days are nutty.
And guess who gets to pay for all this fluff. Yes, YOU!
I have a co-worker who graduated high school in 1965 and she says the schools when she was in the system.
Correction- she says the schools were lousy when she was in the system.
If a kid were a product, more time away from home wouldn’t matter. If a kid is someone I have a close personal relationship with, seeing them on weekends isn’t going to cut it. Why bother to have a kid? Why not just watch them on tv?
I don’t mind year-round school, where the breaks are a little shorter, but there are several. However, although increasing the daily time at school may help people who don’t want to pay for “aftercare”, it does change the child and the relationship.
I’ve observed the aftercare kids for several years now, and they do ok, despite lazy care at the YMCA center, for the most part, most of the time. But they have no adult taking them seriously and asking them about their day. On the day they have an argument on the playground, or lose the student body election, there is nobody they love there to talk to.
I wonder what the mental health effects will be if the 12 or 13 hour school day catches on.
GOP Leadership goals are much different than Conservative goals.
GOP Leadership is about power, money, and serving those who line there pockets, as in International Corporate interests.
Conservatives are interested in Constitutional Republic interests, individual freedom, and favorable small business operating environment.
RINOs exist (as in being supported and funded) to destroy Conservative strength in the service of GOP Leadership goals. JMHO
Good RINO examples are Juan and Lady Graham being funded through Soros funded foundations. They are both supported by GOP Leadership.
The “Won” appointed Kevin Jennings as his “Safe School Czar”—Kevin Jennings founded GLSEN, (gay, lesbian and straight “education” network.)
Hey! The “Safe School Czar” hands out “fisting kits” to school children!!!! (can you say “fisting”? I thought ya could).....
This is the pervert the “Won” appoints as “safe school czar”.
Parents that sit ignorantly by, are asking for this. Jennings will just have more TIME to pervert the children.
I’m sure the “Won” would approve...after all...
he’s our first “Twink” pResident.
This can’t be far behind:
Orphanage is the name to describe a residential institution devoted to the care of orphans – children whose parents are deceased or otherwise unable to care for them. Parents, and sometimes grandparents, are legally responsible for supporting children, but in the absence of these or other relatives willing to care for the children, they become a ward of the state, and orphanages are a way of providing for their care and housing. Children are educated within or outside of the orphanage.
They could provide all meals, all medical care, and all education. Perhaps the kids could visit their parents and siblings on alternate Thursdays for an hour or two.
And to think that the most brilliant Americans had very little, if any “government” schooling. We adopted Prussian schooling methods which “conditions” and “brainwashes” according to Skinner and Pavlov and Freud (sex is the primary drive in humans, and Darwin (there is no God).
Creates non-thinking consumer immoral hedonists. The Western Civ Christian paradigm was dumped without parents understanding the consequence of the subtle brainwashing.
Education does not happen in public schools anymore except by accident.
John Dewey inserted “social” studies, etc, and ruined public education by getting rid of the Classics and logic and Natural Law and God’s Laws along with the reading of the Founding documents, etc.
Dewey want younger kids because their minds were plastic. This plasticity was recognized by Lenin and his school policies of taking the very young away from the mother.
70’s inserted situational ethics (code for moral relativism —no God) and multiculturalism (code for hate oppressive whitey), tolerance—the way to attack Natural Law and pervert the nature of children to think in unnatural way).
All the above is filling children with disinformation so that they will not be able to think logically—Marxist goal so they fall for the Big Lie and are useless in forming opposition.
We saw the results of this type of education with the zombies chanting the obama songs and voting for this creepy fascist.
homeschooling takes about that from what I hear.....just a few hours a day, the rest they get to relax....
“Seven hours is more than enough “
Or if you home school, a good thorough HS education with AP math and serious English and foreign language and etc. can all be had in 4-5 hours a day.
Two of mine entered college at 16, no problem.
They don’t have to go to college at 16 or go at all to prove anything; I just mention it as a possibility. Twelve hours a day is nasty and counterproductive.
Duncan is a laugh. He doesn’t know that schools exist to employ otherwise-unemployable liberal arts majors who like their summers off and retiring after 25 years.
“Year round schooling doesn’t sound bad to me,’
It does to me. Kids need a break. They are not adults; and even adults get vacations.
Kids need downtime; time to do nothing; time to waste; time to try and often fail; time to oversleep; time to stare into space; time to pursue their own interests, as ‘useless’ as they may seem; time to daydream. They aren’t machines.
I feel a song coming on.
Well shut them books and throw 'em away
And say goodbye to dull school days
Look alive and change your ways
It's summertime...
Well no more studying history
And no more reading geography
And no more dull geometry
Because it's summertime
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