The CW2 Cube: Mapping the Meta-terrain of Civil War Two

Western Rifle Shooters Association Blog ^ | July 30, 2010 | Matthew Bracken

[Quix]

PING TO UFO AND END TIMES LISTS FOR IMPORTANCE

Joe,

how workable, doable would it be to turn this into a graphic illustrating what he’s describing?

[PetroniusMaximus]

“When services are cut and the dependents start wandering out into the land inhabited by the producers to take what they think they deserve, then the shooting will start.”

First they will burn their own cities.

When you see the cities on fire it’s time to move to Utah.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[telebob]

This all seems like a very inefficient approach to the problem. Why succumb to the CW models adopted by backward, less technical societies?

In my view, the proper approach would be to disregard side issues of race, ethnicity, rural or urban and focus on the nuetralization of the string pullers and their nomanklatura who are the architects of the new American gulag.

Why waste the ammo?

[FrogHawk]

Interesting.....

[going hot]

bump for later read

[agere_contra]

You guys won’t have general Civil War.

What you will have is a siege of Arizona. Accounts frozen and roads blocked by the ‘most ethical Government in history’.

It will be a case of how best to relieve Arizona, not necessarily how to defend yourselves.

Los Angeles will have its power and water cut off pretty early in any seige of AR, so that part of CA may see a lot of violence.

[agere_contra]

Oh yes, and the Federal forces will definitely try to seize the Hoover Dam.

[2001convSVT]

A 2nd Civil War doesn’t have to be a shooting war. If some states want to leave LET THEM!

[Psalm 144]

“Luckily, I am in a neighborhood that is filled primarily with hittable women.”

That’s a different war, there.

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One with moments of glory, but which you cannot win in the long run.

[GonzoGOP]

Great article. The one thing that would be new to a total breakdown of the US is the roll of WMDs in a civil war. In Iraq they used gas to wipe out hostile towns. But gas, bio and especially nukes work much better against high density cities than they do against dispersed rural communities. With 10k nukes up for grabs it would be a fair bet that at least a few would get into the hands of people crazy/ruthless enough to use them. Pop a 1.5mt bomb over New York, LA and Chicago and suddenly the numbers game being played by the progressives doesn't look so good.

Now the libs can use BIO. They have the research labs and hospitals to deal with an outbreak. People in the hills don't. And if they come into town to get the vaccine they get captured. Come into town and go to the gulag, or die of plague out in the wilderness. All out war should scare the living heck out of anyone.

[Quix]

LOL.

Thankfully, this County is the most conservative in the area . . .

[mad_as_he$$]

bttt

[agere_contra]

That’s very much the issue. Some states will want to leave, but the Feds won’t leave them in a state of secession. In that sense, it will be exactly like CW1.

It will also be like CW1 in that it will happen by state, not e.g. by county or shoe-size.

But the article writer is correct in that the cities - all cities - will be havens of federal support, and all rural areas will be havens of secessionist support. That I guess is a big difference from CW1.

[GladesGuru]

Thanks for posting this.

[Tijeras_Slim]

taxpayer vs. non-taxpayer

Another scenario is a split between those who live off the government (including bureaucrats) and those who do not (and foot the bill). I can see plenty of GS-#'s that will not hesitate to support the use of force against those who will not subsidize their salaries and retirements. It's not only the "welfare" contingent.

[Dixie Pirate]

Matthew’s “Enemies Foreign and Domestic” series depict remarkably detailed and extremely plausible examples of what may still yet happen in this country. Warning, though... if you start reading them you won’t be able to put them down!

http://matthewbracken.site.aplus.net/index.htm

[GonzoGOP]

That I guess is a big difference from CW1.

Not as big as you might think. Don't forget that there was no West Virginia prior to the Civil War. And East Tennessee would probably have broken away as well except that the Federal armies had to march through Western Tennessee to get there. There were Counties in the South that the Confederates were never able to feel fully secure in.

In the North it was even worse. Southern Illinois was absolutely hostile to the Feds. Likewise New York city had riots over the draft that rivaled full scale battles.

In CW I it was economic/cultural links. If you were a West Virginia miner and sold Coal to the Northern industries for a living you probably weren't too eager to fight for some tidewater plantation owner. If you were an Irish factory in New York worker barely surviving on your pay you didn't want a bunch of free black men driving down the wage scale.

[Still Thinking]

Thanks, Jack. Even during his hiatus, we get our dose of Travis! Thought provoking. Seems like I’m in about as good a position within the cube as is reasonably achievable.