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To: butterdezillion; afraidfortherepublic
Quote; "If you look in “Dreams” you’ll see that the details of Obama’s parents getting married, where they lived, etc are all very blurry. But there is one reference that is very concrete: the reference to Obama’s birth weight. If Obama and/or Ayers knew a birth weight for Obama it was from some other document besides the Hawaii BC if that was the item Obama amended. That would be evidence that there is a non-US birth certificate that SOMEBODY (specifically Obama, Ayers, and probably Scheiner & Young) has known all along."

butterdezillion, back then the hospitals gave new parents Certificates of Birth. and it had all that information on them. Height, weight, time of birth, doctor, etc. and a cute little foot print. With a gold seal on the certificate. I know because that is the time my children were born. I was nieve enough to think that, that was the actual Birth Certificate. It wasn't until a few years back I found out it wasn't so I had my daughter send for a Certified Birth Certificate. There is no height, weight, time of birth on the OFFICIAL ONE. Hospitals no longer give out those certificates.

Afraidfortherepublic, height and weight at birth have nothing to do with how tall someone will be. My son is 6 ft and he was only 5 lbs 8 oz and 19 inches long.

69 posted on 08/02/2010 6:09:47 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Spunky

So he could have referred to a commemorative birth certificate from a hospital rather than an official BC.

But it couldn’t have been a hospital in Hawaii or Washington. If it had been from a hospital in Hawaii he would not have had to be charged for making an amendment and it wouldn’t result in there being a note of an amendment; it would be chalked up to hospital error.

And Washington says they don’t have a birth record for him.

So if he had something from a hospital it was a non-US hospital.

The official birth certificates do still have the birth weight and other details; it’s just in the medical portion of the birth certificate, which they only print out if specifically requested to do so (at least in Hawaii). If a person just asks for a copy of a birth certificate they cut off the medical information portion of it and just print down to the signature portion.

The CDC’s current standard birth certificate has 58 items on it.


70 posted on 08/02/2010 6:19:30 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Spunky

Wow. I’m really thankful that your son was OK after being so small at birth. It’s amazing how they grow. Such a miracle.

Our smallest was 6 lb 13 ounces. We induced 3 weeks early because we never figured out why our first died at 42 weeks gestation. At 6 lb 13 ounces she seemed to swim even in the littlest diapers but yours was even tinier. Again, I’m so thankful that everything turned out OK. They sure are precious little gifts. =)


72 posted on 08/02/2010 6:23:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Spunky

There IS a height and weight on “the official one”.

I have an official BC from the State of Hawaii from the 60’s.

It includes height, weight, hospital, doctor, time of birth among other facts.

(by he way, I was born in a hospital in Hawaii in the 60’s. My parents never received an unofficial certificate with feet stamps on them. They could have been saving money and never paid for one, but for the record not every baby received it)

My parents did have to have the official BC for me because my father was active duty and needed the documentation.

Barry (if born in HI) does have the info or can get the info. He either can’t because it doesn’t exist or he doesn’t want to. Simple as that.


73 posted on 08/02/2010 7:25:51 PM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: Spunky

Actually height and weight at birth can be a predictor, unless the child was not full term. That is why the doctors generally use the height at age 2. They’ve done studies on it. It certainly has been accurate for my 4 kids, with the longest babies being the tallest adults.

If it were an 8 month pregnancy, it would be unreliable. Since the circumstances of her pregancy are unknown, we do not know the length of it.


90 posted on 08/03/2010 3:37:47 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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