Obama Taking Your Land, Your Private Ponds and Streams

Maggie's Notebook ^ | August 15, 2010 | Maggie M. Thornton

[maggiesnotebook]

What is the one natural resource we cannot live without? The answer is water. How do you feel about the government owning and/or controlling ALL of the water in the U.S.? The government wants your pond. And they will get it through numerous manipulative ways. Several times I have reported on the Obama land grabs. Today we learn of one more, and friends, we need to know the difference between "navigable waters" and the "waters of the United States."

The culprits are the Great Outdoor Initiative, The Clean Water Act and the Land and Water conservation Fund.

Congress has set aside millions to buy up private land, with no appropriations oversight - no need for a vote.

[JoanVarga]

Suhweet! I'll have somewhere to live now that I no longer have a home!

I hear the re-education camps will be quite comfy!

[eak3]

One of the concerns I see with all of this crap is the thousands and thousands of private fisherman who would essentially be put out of business by alot of this legislation.

[fight_truth_decay]

http://www.nrcm.org/issue_plumcreek_moosetake.asp

Some might find this interesting... Plum Creek controversy in Maine. (not posted to sign petition, just an example of untouched natural resources at its greatest)

[Paladin2]

That rain that falls on your roof?; NOT yours.

[loungitude]

Another Freeper made the point: So then will the feds be liable for damage done by that rain that they own?

[maggiesnotebook]

Just read a story last week. Utah rain belongs to the government. They tried to stop a car wash from collecting in a cistern. I think it resolved by the car wash paying. The rain that you might collect in your backyard is illegal too.

[cripplecreek]

Here in Michigan we’re never more than a mile from some kind of lake pond, stream, or wetland. Start adding in whatever buffer zones the water nazis want to set and pretty soon you render the whole state unihabitable.

[maggiesnotebook]

There is a story out there that the feds are taking over licensing water for fishing and other water sporting events. I can’t locate it right now.

[maggiesnotebook]

@fight_truth_decay, thanks for the link. I assume the lake is owned by the State of Maine? or...

[LostInBayport]

The rain that you might collect in your backyard is illegal too.

Including the water that I collect in my well for drinking, bathing, washing, watering...?

These power grabs are so audacious and far-reaching that they will make even a left-leaning person angry. Too bad there is no opposition party with the steele (pun intended) or the brains to use them in campaigns to illustrate the tyranny of the liberals in a year when it could be used for maximum effect.

[Logical me]

The rain that you might collect in your backyard is illegal too.

No, the basta@@ will just tax it.

[sauropod]

read

[Nuc 1.1]

Not in AZ. The present freedom loving State.

[Bhoy]

“... story out there that the feds are taking over licensing water for fishing and other water sporting events. I can’t locate it right now. I remember that too. This is one link i have From RedState:

Obama: The Will Of The People Be Damned - I’LL Decide Who Can Go Fishing

*Now* he means to ration recreational fishing and boating, folks
Posted by Dave Poff (haystack) (Profile)

Tuesday, March 9th at 2:44PM EST

It all started here this morning:

The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation’s oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters.

http://www.redstate.com/haystack/2010/03/09/obama-the-will-of-the-people-be-damned-ill-decide-who-can-go-fishing/

[fight_truth_decay]

http://www.nrcm.org/land_sales.asp

land purchased in Maine in that region.

The dry land around is privately and state owned but encompasses many a town, townships. The Wildlife Fish & Wildlife manages the lake, launches (inspections algae) etc..

The State park, for instance maintains Baxter State Park, gifted to the state in many instances. Towns have been gifted for parks from wealthy former owners where once might have been private boys or girls camps. Plenty still exist and are still very successful.

http://www.mainepreservation.com/Endangered/04.shtml

Plum Creek would leave thousands of acres for outside use, but would develop into upscale private family home lots ownership. Many are against the Plum Creek development..with good reason.

Now I have a river that runs by my land (18 acres mol) but I don't own the waterway per say. Any structure built has to be 200 feet from the water line. No worry there as it only makes sense. The River Association would like us that border such waterways to give it over to their land trust in exchange for property tax breaks, however I would rather keep the added value to my property and keep my land private. I am on freshwater, but below is salt and tides. http://www.wiscasset.org/visit/natural_assets/

I am thinking of selling at some point, being on water adds value, and taxes on the land are not high. I would move onto water again.

http://damariscottariver.org/LandsProtection.html

http://www.mooseheadlake.org/moosehead.shtml

http://www.mainewoodscoalition.org/news/nsn0604.html

Roxanne Quimby, the most prominent advocate of the proposed Maine Woods National Park

A bumper sticker often seen on pickup trucks up here reads, “Restore Boston, leave our Maine way of life alone,” a reference to RESTORE’s headquarters in Massachusetts.

[stansblugrassgrl]

We live in a home that is right on a creek. I’m wondering how this will affect us. I’m wondering when this nation is going to say “no”.

[maggiesnotebook]

Bhoy, thanks for the redstate link.

[maggiesnotebook]

Thank you for the links. I’ll check them out.