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1 posted on 08/16/2010 5:17:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I was such a cheap scape 20 years ago so I learned to load my own.
2 posted on 08/16/2010 5:19:24 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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At one time, Colt AR-15’s regularly came with a .22LR conversion kit. Around 1988 I had a friendly dealer trade me several Colt H-Bars for various other guns. They all came with the conversion kits.

I only tried the .22 unit once and was pleasantly surprised how well it worked. Since the H-Bar at the time had a 1-7 twist which is way faster than the 1-16 the .22LR normally uses, the accuracy really did surprise me.

All in all tho just more trouble than I wanted to go to since I had a bunch of other .22 rifles and could really see no reason to shoot them in the AR.


3 posted on 08/16/2010 5:25:48 PM PDT by yarddog
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I was getting about 1.5-inch groups at 25 yards standing

It would be better to test the rifle and the shooter separately. Otherwise what should we conclude - that the kit has accuracy of 6 MOA? That would be pretty bad, unless the sound is the only desirable effect of the exercise :-)

4 posted on 08/16/2010 5:27:16 PM PDT by Greysard
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Thanks for posting this. I was wondering about this conversion kit. It would let me shoot at my local pistol range rather than taking a much longer trip to a rifle range that doesn’t much like EBRs.


5 posted on 08/16/2010 5:30:02 PM PDT by MediaMole
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Damn! If I didn't think I'd be reprimanded and possibly fired, I'd use this as an example of finding the break-even point in my Algebra class next month. This would get their attention!

sigh.

6 posted on 08/16/2010 5:30:21 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?Five?No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg.)
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Local gun dealer here is getting about 40 Rock River AR-15s in on a one time buy. I have to see which model it is, but I think that at $695 I’m gonna go for it.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 5:36:15 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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My only experience with the .22 conversion was in basic training at Lackland AFB in 1984.
My weapon jammed 8 times during the 40 round qualification.
Needless to say, I don't recommend this.
8 posted on 08/16/2010 5:37:13 PM PDT by Lost Dutchman ("Weep for the future Na'Toth, Weep for us all." (G'Kar-Babylon 5))
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I want an over-under .308/.22 barrel setup. Do any exist?


9 posted on 08/16/2010 5:39:04 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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What I have never understood about these conversion kits is that (as you point out) they do not provide you with the full shooting experience. For example, putting one in a Model 1911 just gives you a heavy pistol shooting an anemic round. No recoil, no muzzle creep, yuck. You’re not really shooting a Model 1911.

Why do it? Yes, I know, the savings in ammo. Why not shoot less but when you do, shoot the real thing.


10 posted on 08/16/2010 5:45:49 PM PDT by OldPossum
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If the SHTF of an apoplectic nature, like maybe an EMP attack, one of the most practical guns for survival will be a 22LR. Not so much for protection of the homestead, but for hunting the small game that you will soon have to rely on for food. The large game would soon be depleted in such a global disaster, so don’t plan on refer full of venison. That’s if you even have power for the refer. Rabbit, squirrel, opossum, birds of all kinds, even roaming domestic animals if it came down to it.
You could stock up on years worth of 22LR now for not that much money, and a good 22 is also very accurate and the sound doesn’t travel far incase you had to do your survival hunting on someone else’s land.

Bullets of all kinds will also be a top bartering item if cash was no longer of value.


11 posted on 08/16/2010 5:46:58 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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The kits look fun, but they usually cost more than a dedicated .22 rifle would cost. I have always come down on the side of having two fully functional firearms rather than a rifle that can only work as a .22 part of the time.

Of course, if you live where it is really difficult to legally own more than one rifle, it would have its advantages.


17 posted on 08/16/2010 6:09:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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Ruger SR-22. No conversion kit necessary. Costs $499.00. Can be outfitted with any AR-15 accessory. This gun is so much fun to shoot at the range, and ammo is so cheap.

19 posted on 08/16/2010 6:29:01 PM PDT by chris37
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Do the math? I think he borrowed that from here. Check the banner at the bottom of the page. Ironically this outfit also makes a .22LR AR-15 conversion (actually they make 4 different flavors of them).
26 posted on 08/16/2010 6:46:55 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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I bought the same kit last month for my M&P. I only had a couple of FTF/FTE while going through about 200 rounds. I had way too much fun!!!


28 posted on 08/16/2010 6:51:06 PM PDT by pockets
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Add a suppressor and a box of subsonics and you’ll be very happy.


32 posted on 08/16/2010 8:06:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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can LR be reloaded or is that rimfire?


33 posted on 08/16/2010 8:07:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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My wife will only shoot a .22LR. I love to build AR-15’s so I built her an SP1 style rifle with a light barrel then put a Ciner conversion bolt in there. She loves it.

FTF/FTE’s are very rare with her rifle and usually occur due to a lack of lubrication. Every 50 shots or so I give it a blast of Remoil and it keeps humming along.


43 posted on 08/17/2010 5:55:44 AM PDT by Dayman
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OK...only question the article didn’t answer for me was whether this was blowback or gas operation. I’d think there was potential for serious crap building up in the gas tube either way.


46 posted on 08/17/2010 11:09:01 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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