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To: faucetman
It may be "good enough" for you, but it is decidedly NOT "good enough" for God and that is what counts in the end.

It does not matter if Glenn Beck says he believes in "jesus". The so-called "jesus" of the cult of Mormonism is NOT the Jesus of the Bible or of BIBLICAL Christianity! It never has been and never will be.

Glenn Beck is a devout Mormon, as such he firmly believes and teaches what the cult of Mormonism believes and teaches regarding Jesus Christ and theology and what Mormonism teaches about both is HERESY. It is NOT biblical and it is definitely NOT Christianity. Anyone who does not realize this demonstrates a total lack of spiritual discernment or ignorance regarding the perverse teachings of Mormonism.

As much as I respect Mr. Beck and his love for America; heresy is still heresy, no matter who spouts it, even if they have a widely acclaimed TV show. One can not be a genuine born-again Christian and stay within the cult of Mormonism if they factually research and compair the teachings and doctrine of biblical Christianity and Mormonism.

Although Mr. Beck, claims to have a demonstrable love for the truth and claims to research to see if things he believes and teaches are true or not in other areas of his life;

Because he has steadfastly remains within the Mormon "church", and holds to it's teachings, in spite of his research (along with being confronted, I am sure on numerous occasions by loving born-again friends and colleagues, who care about his soul, with the TRUTH concerning the doctrine of BIBLICAL Christianity and the diametrically opposed teachings of Mormonism), regarding Mormonism and biblical Christianity, we can come to no other conclusion but that Glen Beck, believes in "another jesus", the "jesus" of Mormonism. That "jesus" is NOT the Jesus Christ of biblical Christianity and that "jesus" cannot save him or anyone else from their sin, no matter how much of a "change" he has made in their lives, no matter how much they may proclaim they "know jesus".

60 posted on 08/20/2010 9:17:02 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

Good succinct post, JMouse007.


62 posted on 08/20/2010 9:21:00 AM PDT by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The First Freedom is Life.)
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To: Jmouse007

What about he was Jewish? Would you feel the same way? Hindu? Sikh? Would you dismiss him then?


66 posted on 08/20/2010 9:48:17 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Jmouse007; faucetman; grassboots.org
It may be "good enough" for you, but it is decidedly NOT "good enough" for God and that is what counts in the end.

Two things here. First, Romans 13 makes this all rather moot regarding any formula that suggests that prayers and faith equals better government. It didn't work too well for our Founders who had to fight a bloody war and then build a government up from scratch. God installs all governments based on His Pleasure and Will, not based on what feel we would prefer.

The second matter is far more grave. It is very obvious to the true believer who is knowlegable about God that what Beck is teaching isn't just Mormonism, but is a direct assault on the Gospel. His teachings are rat poison. The sweet tasting partiotism and love of our history cloaks the damning poison of his core message.

The poison is this: That any faith of any doctrine of any teaching, towards any imagination of God is pleasing to the Almighty Creator. What is rather disappointing is seeing so many people who reject the one True Gospel and feel that there are many paths to salvation. What is worse they take on the name of Christ who they willfully mischaracterize and blaspheme To say that Mormonism is a Christian denomination is to say that Islam is a Christian denomination for even the Muslims believe in Jesus Christ. The Muslims consider Him yet another prophet, and the Mormons consider Jesus yet another created being, a god in a long continuum of created gods. Neither of these characterizations are Christian in the least bit.

So when Beck calls on a Jesus Christ of Joe Smith's imagination, does the true Creator God hear Glenn's prayers? Of course not.

John 9:31-32 Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him.

and

Prov 15:29 The Lord is far from the wicked, But He hears the prayer of the righteous.
Prov 28:9He who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.

One can very well argue that for as long as Beck spreads lies about the Gospel and blasphemes God that even his prayers are an abomination to God. So when Beck is assuming the role of the prophet in Joe Smith's White Horse Propecy come 8/27-28, will God hear His prayer? No. Then what fruit can anyone truly expect from this exercise?

Consider this parable:

Luke 11:24-27 "When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first."

Is the man in this parable one who tries to clean up his life and absent the Holy Spirit tries to do righteous things causing the evil spirit enough discomfort to depart? Yet for all of these self-righteous works (which sums up Mormon soteriology) the demon returns with friends even more depraved and wicked then the first demon.

I submit that what might just happen, given the lackadaisical attitude nominal Christians have towards the things of God and His Righteousness, this even may be nothing more than just a do-it-yourself house cleaning which, as this parable suggests, can make things far far worse.

Spiritually, I can't see how this can be avoided. Since people are so willing to compromise their relationship with Jesus Christ in order to break bread and koinonia with a blasphemer and heretic, I can't see how God would honor this event - particularly, when the very premise is that man, through his own actions in self-righteousness and self generated "faith" in the fill-in-the-blank God will obligate The Almighty to ignore the wickedness that has gone on for so long.

Even when the good king Josiah, destroyed the house of idols, purged the land of the Sodomites, restored the Temple and was grieved by how far the people strayed from their founding principles, this piety and repentance did not curb the Wrath of the Almighty God which was stored up against Judah for many years. Their fate was already cast. Glenn Beck is no King Josiah.

95 posted on 08/20/2010 5:52:48 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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