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Debate Ended: Obama Is A Muslim
America Talks ^ | 8/22/10 | David Zublick

Posted on 08/22/2010 12:35:29 PM PDT by AmericaTalks

There has been a firestorm of controversy over the course of the last several days regarding Barack Obama's religious affiliations. This comes in the wake of Obama's endorsement of the mosque scheduled to be built in the shadow of Ground Zero, and a newly released Pew Research Center poll indicating that almost 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is a Muslim.

In every news account of the Pew survey, it is stated that the results show that people "incorrectly" or "wrongly" believe Obama is a Muslim. But these accounts fail to point out facts which indicate that Obama has an Islamic background, and that according to Islamic law, once a Muslim, always a Muslim.

Here are the facts:

Barack Obama's father was a Muslim, and as such, Barack was born a Muslim under Islamic law as it is understood. This is indisputable. And even though his father supposedly renounced his religion, it is irrelevant. His mother's faith (it is said she was a Christian but this remains in dispute) is also of no consequence.

Obama was raised for a time in Kenya and attended a predominantly Muslim school. Insight Magazine reported that he attended a Madrassa, and, despite some news organizations claiming to have debunked that report, Insight stood by its story.

Obama has made matters worse by refusing to release his long form birth certificate, which has given rise to a theory on the part of "birthers" that there may be something he is trying to conceal with regards to his religious affiliation.

Barack Obama's claim that he converted to Christianity is viewed through the eyes of the Islamic world as a crime worse than murder. In other words, you cannot renounce the Muslim faith.

Obama attended a "Christian" church in Chicago pastor-ed by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a former Muslim and black nationalist who practiced and preached black liberation theology. In the 20 years Obama spent in that church, he heard sermons that echoed many of the sentiments of the Islamic world toward western society.

During the course of the campaign for the presidency in 2008, Obama attempted to cover up his Islamic background. Subsequent to his election, however, he has proudly professed his Muslim upbringing, and gone out of his way to reach out to and extol the virtues of the Islamic world, with trips to the Middle East, in which he bowed down before the King of Egypt, his willingness to sit down with Islamic leaders of nations that are state sponsors of terror without precondition, and even the appointment of a NASA Administrator, whose primary mission is to reach out to the Muslim community and make them feel good about themselves.

He has also made it the hallmark of his administration to eliminate the war on terror, re-labeling it an overseas contingency operation, and referring to terrorist attacks as man-made disasters. His own Attorney-General refuses to use the term "radical Islam".

Since his presidency began, Obama has not been seen attending any Christian church. He claims he does not want to cause a distraction. Funny how previous presidents have been shown with Bible in hand, walking into their churches, even if it was a deliberate photo opportunity.

And now, there is Obama's blessing on the new mosque being planned near the hallowed ground where nearly 3000 of our fellow citizens were brutally murdered on September 11, 2001.

This has led many Americans to question Obama's leadership, his loyalty, and most importantly, his faith.

Some are attributing the belief by one-fifth of the public that Obama is a Muslim to misinformation by the media, coupled with a growing dissatisfaction with his job performance, attracting them to negative labels.

Yet when he professes to be a Christian, but the evidence shows an empathy for Islam, it becomes clear to many Americans where this president's mindset is planted. In Islam.

The debate has ended. Obama is a Muslim.

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To: ProtectOurFreedom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msCieEnEZ34&feature=related


41 posted on 08/22/2010 2:10:57 PM PDT by houeto (Get drinking water from your ditch - http://www.junglebucket.com/)
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To: humblegunner

Give the guy some latitude. Israel is also, historically, a people. Jesus is prophesied throughout the Old Testament. I guess I’m quite ignorant too.


42 posted on 08/22/2010 2:16:32 PM PDT by DC Bound (www.actionverbwoodworks.com)
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To: houeto

Yes, how could I have forgotten Amazing Grace? One of my favorites.

Il Divo is great, but I think Judy Collins did the best ever, especially at her prime in the late 60s. Here she is solo without the choir or orchestra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVpxfDgVaec&feature=related


43 posted on 08/22/2010 2:20:10 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DC Bound
I guess I’m quite ignorant too.

Could be.

Israel is also, historically, a people.

That isn't what the poster said. He referenced "land" as in location.

Either way...

John 14:6 (King James Version)

6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Sounds like some "chosen" folks on some "land" had better get right, huh?

44 posted on 08/22/2010 2:21:17 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: timetostand
how many Christians do you know, would say that the prettiest sound they have heard is the muslim call to prayer????

Speaking for myself......I find it pretty irritating. :)

45 posted on 08/22/2010 2:22:08 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: AmericaTalks; Beckwith

In reply to earlier thread is picture of O taking his shoes off at a mosque — the source blog says picture was taken before Christmas but I can’t find any credits for the picture.

My Muslim President Obama: Why members of the Islamic faith see him as one of the flock.
Forbes ^ | February 25, 2009 | Asma Gull Hasan

Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:30:22 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2575274/posts

Link to blog with photo:

http://willswordsofwisdom.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/disgusting/


46 posted on 08/22/2010 2:22:33 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: humblegunner
Sounds like some "chosen" folks on some "land" had better get right, huh?

I don't know about that. They'll miss out on the rapture, but read Ezekiel 38 & 39. The Lord is still looking after Israel. Read Revelation... The 144,000 are Jews, and the two witnesses will end their three and a half years in Jerusalem. Christ is the only way, but this is getting beyond the meaning of the original post. All he was saying is that without Israel, there is no Christ.

47 posted on 08/22/2010 2:45:06 PM PDT by DC Bound (www.actionverbwoodworks.com)
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To: Beckwith

“. . . we’re talking about Barack Obama here. There are no “facts” — everything is “best guess.”

Hmmhh . . . inaccessible college grades, hidden birth certificate, missing legislative records. . . sir, I bow to your superior insight!


48 posted on 08/22/2010 2:54:14 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: AmericaTalks; Beckwith; 2ndDivisionVet

Photo of O taking off shoes for muzz prayer Wills words of wisdom blog has update the photo attributing it to White House File Photo.

blurb:

The President is once more celebrating Ramadan at the White House (File photo). The last word is Mr. Obama will have this year’s Ramadan Dinner on 9-11. Ramadan comes in the 9th month. All he wants to do is unify.

the link:

http://willswordsofwisdom.wordpress.com/


49 posted on 08/22/2010 3:17:22 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There’s another dimension to this. Some analysts have pointed out that Islam can be seen as a form of Arab nationalism. A demonstration of this is the ongoing tragedy in Darfur, where non-Arab Muslims are the targets of Arab Muslim persecution, pretty much for being non-Arab. This is also why conversion to Islam is typically followed by changing one’s name to one of Arabic origins.

In that context, the Arabic language as used in the Quran has a special, nationalistic role to play in the advancement of Islam. The Quran is supposed to be a miraculous document such that it can, when read in Arabic, by virtue of the beauty and spiritual power of that language, provide an additional level of religious experience confirming the truth of Islam.

Therefore, Obama, in asserting the superiority of beauty of the call to prayer, is sending a coded message that almost no one in the West can pick up, that he believes Islam is true, because he has personally experienced the miraculous power of the Quran as rendered in Arabic.

Having said that, I am not sure he is anything other than a very cynical Nietzschean atheist, willing and able, due to a complete lack of conscience, to play both sides of the religious war to his own advantage. I think his deity is either Marx, or himself, or some conflation of the two. But only God knows for sure.


50 posted on 08/22/2010 3:20:06 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Peter Libra

Actually the number who CORRECTLY identify Obama as Christian is ZERO and shall remain ZERO!


51 posted on 08/22/2010 3:20:50 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: humblegunner

At least keep it civil. I was just trying to point out that Israel (the territory) goes back before Christ who is a direct decedent of King David. His blood line being that of the Jewish faith is the basis for his becoming the King of Man, Prince of Peace, and the head of the Christian Church: both Catholic and Protestant.

We cannot isolate and turn our backs on Israel.

You cannot refute this because it is written in Biblical law. Have a blessed day.


52 posted on 08/22/2010 3:45:03 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: AmericaTalks
The question is not whether under Islamic law Obama is a Muslim. Yes he is, but for those of us who aren't Muslims, Islamic law is irrelevant. We would accept a convert from Islam to Christianity as a Christian.

The real issue is whether Obama looks at the world from an Islamic perspective. I think the answer is that clearly he does. It doesn't matter whether he faces Mecca and bangs his forehead on the floor five times a day. What matters is that in any issue involving a Muslim and a non-Muslim, Obama is on the side of the Muslim.

53 posted on 08/22/2010 3:54:49 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. More @ www.book-resistancetotyranny.com)
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To: humblegunner

Sounds like you have no clue on the future unconditional promises God made to Israel. Unless you proscribe to replacement theology.. In which case you are the fool.

Now try and have a little Christian kindness in your posts, it would help make you points tolerable.


54 posted on 08/22/2010 4:01:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: DownInFlames
We cannot isolate and turn our backs on Israel.

Point out where I said we should and I'll give you a dollar.

His blood line being that of the Jewish faith is the basis for his becoming the King of Man

He's only Jewish on his mother's side.

55 posted on 08/22/2010 4:04:33 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner

To quote you “You are wrong and likely quite ignorant”. I’m not going to get into an argument where history is quite clear. This conversation is over. Please do not be insulting.


56 posted on 08/22/2010 4:07:53 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Springfield Reformer

The guy changed his name from Barry Soto to Barack Hussein Obama. He’s a mooslum without the courage to admit it.

I vote “present”.


57 posted on 08/22/2010 4:23:40 PM PDT by baiamonte
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To: DownInFlames
I’m not going to get into an argument where history is quite clear.

I don't blame you.

58 posted on 08/22/2010 4:46:17 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Whenever the state-run media uses any or all of the following code words...
“Incorrectly.”

“Wrongly.”

“Unexpectedly.”

...they are actively providing cover for Hussein.
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Even the panel on Fox today.....on Chris Wallace


59 posted on 08/22/2010 5:06:45 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption (t)
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To: timetostand

He also didn’t say the Our Father when everyone else was praying at his inauguration. The camera was on him, and he was sitting there not even mouthing the words.


60 posted on 08/22/2010 5:19:17 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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